
Joepny's thought-provoking post from 2017 delves into the ethical considerations surrounding design inspiration and originality within the independent watchmaking world. He examines the perceived similarities between an MB&F turtle automaton and an earlier piece by independent artisan Raul Pages, sparking a debate on attribution, innovation, and the 'unwritten rules' of homage among living artists. This discussion remains highly relevant for collectors navigating the nuanced landscape of horological creativity and collaboration.








Would make a good title. If they had given a nod to Mr. Pages, then that would have drawn interest to his work, making it a win for all, since they are not competing at price points, etc.
In my opinion, it’s not our problem to solve or our place to provoke. Pages made one, MB&F made ten, the designs are different, the legs are different, the singing bird animation ... etc. Cazalea
We hear about this scenario so often: (1) you see a watch you like and it’s made in a small qty and you buy it for various reasons; (2) another brand subsequently releases a similar style watch with a slight difference and it’s cheaper but more are made. There are at least two sides to every story: (a) watch lover in #1 is probably a little miffed that his watch is not so unique anymore; (2) watch buyer #2 is happy to get the nice style watch at a more affordable price. Usually as PuristS we don
As a fan of automatons and having studied the history of automatons, I know that there are turtle/tortoise "tortue" automatons that date far back both of these. The example by Asprey is a fairly recent but beautiful example as I've personally seen some tortue automatons that are around an estimated 200 years of age. I applaud MB&F's response on social media of de-mystifying the tortoise automaton's origins and for providing FACTS that neither were the originator of the automaton tortue. I also a
It is the reason why we are on Purists and not somewhere else. You are rising good questions. I have a lot of respect for Max and his team, I have a lot of respect for Raul. I know them both. I saw Raul's tortoise in March for the first time, I hope to see Max's one soon. Despite some aesthetic similarities (I would say that a tortoise remains a tortoise), I also find them very different. I feel the same about their behaviours what is the key point for an automaton. So for me, there is no specif
For sure I hope that Raul Pages finds a good outcome through this MB&F event. 👍 I like to root for the little guys more often than not.
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