Luxury Tastes: Then and Now
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Luxury Tastes: Then and Now

By Joepny · Jul 31, 2016 · 16 replies
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As befits the day of rest, I was catching up on watch-related internet readings this morning. I linked over to TZ for an article by Alan Downing that was written back in the year 2000. That year has some resonance as it marks the start of the new century and for me personally, I recall thinking at t

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As befits the day of rest, I was catching up on watch-related internet readings this morning.  I linked over to TZ for an article by Alan Downing that was written back in the year 2000.  That year has some resonance as it marks the start of the new century and for me personally, I recall thinking at the time about replacing my scratched up quartz Ebel watch that was a graduation gift from my wonderful sister many years before.  (The following year I would end up buying my first Swiss mechanical watches and truly beginning this financially disastrous passion.)  Anyway, Downing's article was about the PP 5100 that was released at the time for Patek Philippe's 150th Anniversary.  At the end of the article, there's a cursory mention of the expected MRSP and I was shocked at how reasonable it seems compared to today's terms.  And it made me feel a little uneasy really.

photo from Christie's
photo from Christie's


So I started thinking about the time around 16 years or so ago and the non-trivial finely made things and the relative sums spent on them that motivated me and held my interests.  I was 25-years-old back then and I can freely admit now with hindsight that I had illusions to being more cultivated that I really was, which is to say I would be embarrassed to encounter my younger self now.  I suppose for many of us, no matter the generation we're from, it's relatable.  biggrin 

My watch tastes at the time ran to the sporty offerings from Rolex, Omega and IWC.  I knew some things about A. Lange and Sohne but really nothing about Patek Philippe.  I bought a new Speedmaster Automatic (reduced size) for a price that is close to the cost of the Nomos Tangente nowadays.  I owned a sporty 2-door Japanese coupe newly bought a few years earlier with the help of an auto loan.  It was a Honda and it was basically fully-loaded, an attainable nearly luxurious car.  My (pretentious) sartorial sense was captivated by well-known heritage brands and I loved the idea of well-made shirts & sweaters and classic leather dress shoes.  I remember buying a light sweater made by Givenchy in Paris as a splurge (not in 2000 obviously but just a few years later when Euros were adopted) and I remember walking into John Lobb on Jermyn St in London around the same time and treating myself to an even bigger splurge.

Sitting here now, I can gauge that my interest in owning a true luxury car is not very high.  I like the idea of it in daydreams but I do not rate it very high vs. the environmental impact.  Maybe Tesla will move me more in the future.  Would I spend 3X or more what I did for my first Honda?  No.  I would just prefer to live in the city and use public transport.  I still love soft & supple menswear especially authentic cashmere and I'm now enthusiastically into the old men Italian makers like Brunello and Loro Piana.  On the other hand, I'm not at all convinced by luxury handmade shoes anymore.  I wore the John Lobb on my wedding day so it's still loved but I cannot imagine buying them again.  I wear mostly New Balance sneakers which are admittedly not that cheap either.  So turning to luxury watches, it falls in the middle.  If I were wearing my cynical hat, I would say I need a good slap in the face because I should have a much bigger qualm about buying something that is 3X or 4X what it was about 15 years ago.  Maybe it is the weakness of the middle age life, that to find something to stir and motivate the passions, it takes a bigger and bigger leap as we get older.  On the other hand, maybe it is all relative and it's just enough to do what pleases you if you work hard enough and you are not cheating anyone then do as your conscience allows.                   
--Joe
      


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DR
Dr No
Jul 31, 2016
Decreasingly materialistic over the years here as well . . .

. . . and also registering changes in outlook and desires. There was a time when having a desirable car mattered. No more, although I still have a hankering for a '60s Dodge or Plymouth. Maybe yes, maybe never; at this point in my life, though, it doesn't really matter anymore. Watches? I'd like to add one more modern piece to my collection, two at the most. Omega or G O, or both. Writing the final chapter and closing the book after that. Vintage is another story. My interest is, if anything, in

JO
Joepny
Jul 31, 2016
Much better written than I did

thank you Art. And yes, shooting pool & reading history is very appealing. I remember reading Boorstin's The Discoverers in my 20's and it really stirred my imagination and for a while I loved reading Western Civilization literature. Cheers. -Joe

DR
Dr No
Jul 31, 2016
That was a most . . .

. . . thoughtful musing, Joe, which inspired my reply. Best, Art

WA
watchthatman
Aug 2, 2016
What kind of audio are you into Art? That was my main passion/obsession for years, and now I've reached a point where I can sit back and enjoy.

By analog, do you mean tubes, vinyl, reel to reel, or all of the above? I have a constantly growing vinyl collection, and digital has taken a back seat to my records.

CA
cazalea
Jul 31, 2016
As my house is nearly full, I am buying less

Somehow over the last decade or so, I have whittled down the "needs/wants" list pretty far. Stereo - Klipsch and Luxman are good enough, and two channels adequate Cars - got too many and not inclined to sell them as it's more work than paying the DMV bill Watches - slowing down after reaching my limit, and again, not too inclined to sell the cheap ones (not worth the effort) or the nice ones (took me too long to find them) Clothes - just not all that interested anymore - have enough shirts, slac

JO
Joepny
Jul 31, 2016
for your heirs, it will be more of a blessing than a curse :-)

My wife has put her foot down on most space-taking items in the house. We used to buy curios from our vacations but she has vetoed them over the last couple of trips. I can get away with watches because they are still easy to hide at the bank. But she notices new ones when I wear them so I'm not really fooling anyone --Joe

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