Hodinkee: Journalism, Sales, and Ethics Debate
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Hodinkee: Journalism, Sales, and Ethics Debate

By Joepny · Feb 11, 2017 · 120 replies
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Joepny sparks a heated debate about Hodinkee's business practices, specifically their exclusive Vacheron Constantin Les Historiques Chronograph collaboration. The author questions the ethics of a platform that combines journalism with direct watch sales, particularly regarding disclosure of commercial relationships. This discussion explores the evolving landscape of watch media and its impact on independent journalism.

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So this post is a serious discussion about something that absolutely infuriates me and I'm hoping it hews to the PuristS code of conduct and won't be removed.

Hodinkee put up for sale exclusively through their website a tweaked model of the VC Les Historiques chrono in SS. Nice watch. I read their post on Thursday when it went up. I have also read their numerous articles about various VC references over the past few months. Early in this past week they had a watch comparison article that featured the new VC Overseas 3-hander vs. 2 other manufacturers' references. It was a very positive take on the VC 3-hander. So I re-read it and there was no disclosure that there was a business relationship between Hodinkee and VC. There were no disclosures at all in other previous articles that included VC content. This is just unbelievably unethical in my opinion. It's shilling uncovered after the fact if a disclosure is not made.



(pic credit to Hodinkee website)

Now I know other Purists read Hodinkee, and have bought their recent Zenith watch, will wonder what's the big deal? You can argue that Everyone has the internet at their disposal and can make their own decisions and Hodinkee is doing a great favor for all of us with their 2-prong business model - free journalism and selling watches. Well thank you but you're missing the point. The point is it smells of commercial favoritism and with the size of Hodinkee's reach & influence, they can shift the balance for manufacturers that do business with them. You work with us and we pump up your sales. The VC watch collaboration alone will drive over $1.5M USD gross sales. That is substantial. I don't know the split between Hodinkee & VC, let's say 30/70. Wouldn't another manufacturer love to record that turnover to survive business in a downturn? How about Habring who makes a very nice vintage-inspired chrono? How about Parmigiani Fleurier? How about Breitling who is up for sale?

Anyway I'm just very disappointed by the biggest watch blog that it did not do the right thing once again. It just reinforces the belief that if you want independent and ethical watch journalism, you must search far & wide for it.


(post edited to insert correct image - Ornatus-Mundi)

This message has been edited by Ornatus-Mundi on 2017-02-13 07:16:48

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keks
Feb 11, 2017
Agree with you it takes away any form of credibility of H as a source of independent horological journalism.

In due time it will be more apparent to a wider group of readers less versed in horology. I do think however they have an interesting role in sensing what users want more of and act as a bridge to the manufacturers who seem at times poor at sensing what consumers want. A stainless version of this is very cool I admit, however not sure why they could not have done this by themselves to begin with..?

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christianch
Feb 11, 2017
if they did it would have not sold out in 30 minutes. [nt]

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alphabeta81
Feb 11, 2017
But even H would agree

I don\'t think they themselves would call them selves and independent source of journalism. They admit they are a business and they took a lot of money from investors to build the business. Again, why are we holding them to a standard to be independent when they are pretty open about not being truly independent and having business interests?

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Joepny
Feb 11, 2017
Because they are arguably the biggest watch blog

in terms of English language content, I am guessing, or in the top 2 or 3. And they provide their content free and push their content out aggressively. In turn they benefit from the pageviews that readers like you and I give them. Pageviews help them set advertising rates and contribute to the value of their business. So it is a 2-way street, Hodinkee benefits from having a large growing reader base. They have clout due to pageviews from us. And not all readers can be expected to know how Hodink

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alphabeta81
Feb 11, 2017
This was eloquent and clear

Thanks for sharing your thoughts here. I went from not really caring to agreeing with you.

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Joepny
Feb 11, 2017
Don't get me wrong

all the power to Hodinkee to flourish in their business. they\'re keeping people employed and hopefully paying taxes and contributing to the economy.

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