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sham1 · 2025-06-24T02:22:40Z

Discover why sham1's new Daniel Roth Ultra Thin in rose gold is challenging his Patek Philippe 7200R London Edition for the top spot in his collection. Explore collector insights on LVMH's strategy and the watch's design.

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In a candid reflection, sham1, a long-time collector, shares the unexpected shift in his horological affections. His latest acquisition, the Daniel Roth Ultra Thin in rose gold, has challenged the decade-long reign of his Patek Philippe 7200R London Edition. This post delves into the personal journey and meticulous considerations behind such a significant change in a curated collection.

For almost ten years now, my Patek Philippe 7200R London Edition has been my favourite watch but this title may be shifting to my latest acquisition - the Daniel Roth Ultra Thin in rose gold. When I first set eyes on this watch, I knew immediately that it would be a part of my six watch collection. My first thoughts were should I sell my car (an option never before considered as I love my M2 Competition) but I have since decided that I will sell two watches instead. You see, at this period of my life, this passion of mine has to be self financing so an acquisition must be financed by a sale.

Back to the Roth, in my eyes this watch is as close to perfection as it gets. From the dial and case that blend so well with my skin tone, from the short curved lugs that wrap around my small wrist, from the supple leather strap that need to be worn to be believed, the ultra smooth winding crown and lastly the beautifully finished movement which to be honest, I have only ogled at twice since the acquisition five days ago. I say only twice because it is the dial that stands out in my opinion. The rose gold chapter ring against the grey guilloche pin stripe background works wonders as do the discreet arrow hands.

Now I have had heard that the dial is not layered like the original in the early 90s and that it is 1mm thicker than the original which had an automatic Frederic Piguet movement but I am genuinely pleased and content with this latest version. It was the only piece available in South East Asia and I am glad to be the proud owner of this watch.

Daniel Roth was one of my favourite brands in the 1990s but I had to sell my three Daniel Roth watches (including a tourbillon) in 1997 to finance a marriage. That marriage failed and I vowed that one day, I would buy a Roth again. It has taken me 28 years but the wait has been worth it. Thank you for reading.

My actual watch!

Key Points from the Discussion

LVMH's strategy for brands like Daniel Roth emphasizes exclusivity and price point growth over immediate sales volume, aiming to position them at the high end of the market, similar to independent brands like MB&F, Roger W. Smith, and F.P. Journe.
The author plans to finance the new Daniel Roth by auctioning a Montblanc Star Legacy Suspended Exo Tourbillon (limited to 18 pieces) and a Patek Philippe 3878J, highlighting the difficult decisions involved in maintaining a self-financing collection.
An earlier version of the Daniel Roth Ultra Thin, featuring the Frederic Piguet 71 movement with an off-center rotor, was noted for its aesthetic appeal but also for its unreliability, leading to its sale by a previous owner.
The author notes that the short, curved lugs of the Daniel Roth Ultra Thin make it exceptionally wearable for smaller wrists, a critical factor often overlooked but essential for comfort, especially when comparing watches of vastly different diameters like a 31.5mm Patek skeleton and a 44.6mm Montblanc.
The author acknowledges that LVMH has significantly elevated the quality of high-end watches within its group, suggesting that collectors should not dismiss a quality product like the Daniel Roth Ultra Thin simply due to its corporate ownership.
A fellow enthusiast recalls the original Daniel Roth Ultra Thin as a 'true grail piece' and expresses intrigue about the Papillon Chronographe, indicating continued interest in the brand's unique designs.

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KMII

Jun 24, 2025

A truly lovely piece and glad for you to have gotten another 28 years later 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

sham1

Jun 24, 2025

The whole watch is to die for

sham1

Jun 24, 2025

We will always justify our acquisitions no matter how illogical they may be!

sham1

Jun 24, 2025

there are a number of used ones in the secondary market but I wanted a new one. There is something about buying a new watch that is difficult to explain but gives one unparalleled satisfaction. And I tend to keep my watches pretty well so finding a 30 year old watch in great condition would not be easy.

sham1

Jun 24, 2025

but in 30 years, the price has increased five times! :-(

sham1

Jun 24, 2025

I thought I have seen every single Roth but I have never seen this one. If it is yours, many congratulations!

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