nice one,

May 29, 2018,14:22 PM
 

send me some pics please...

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Well, talking about rarities, this one is a teardrop case in 14k with a 458/1B movement

 
 By: social1 : August 14th, 2017-18:05
I have not seen another yet and I couldn't find much about this 458/1B except from Dean on THL who noted that this one is an early version of the 458 which is based on the cushion shaped 457. I understand the 458/3B with a pith fork regulator is more fami...  

Very nice, but...

 
 By: Tony C. : August 14th, 2017-18:15
I don't see it as being rare. I just performed a quick search and found no less than five similar (teardrop) models with cal. 458/xx calibers. Regards, Tony C.

of course you will find that, but find a 458/1B in a 14k case

 
 By: social1 : August 14th, 2017-18:21
Mine is the only one out there, that is what I meant by rare, thank you so much for your quick search and post, great you noticed and thank you for your interst...Paul C.

Ah, I see

 
 By: Tony C. : August 15th, 2017-02:27
Thanks for the clarification. It does appear that at least some of the 458/3B retained the simpler regulators: ...  

yes Tony, and I can't even find any reference on 458/1B or another time piece with this movement in it,

 
 By: social1 : August 15th, 2017-07:21
it looks like this is it, I am very happy to have it and will post some more unique pieces from my collection...

Identical ?

 
 By: mohammad : May 28th, 2018-16:03
Is this watch identical to the second watch in post ? ...  

identical

 
 By: social1 : May 28th, 2018-16:07
yes, it is identical, I think I posted twice by mistake, thanks...

How about the Crown.? and Seconds hand ?

 
 By: mohammad : May 28th, 2018-20:47
Does the Crown in my post look Original as the Crown in your post ? Seconds hand seem shorter than your watch .

crown and second hand

 
 By: social1 : May 29th, 2018-04:22
The crown seems to be an unfortunate replacement and the second hand is too short; you need to have it authenticated by V&C and you need to open the case to check out the numbers. Only V&C archives can verify and issue a Certificate where you can ... 

Have you emailed VC and asked for their input, they have the serial number and case matching information which would help a lot, if the serial number on the movement and case number on the

 
 By: Rogi : May 29th, 2018-10:03
case match then we can indeed say it is a rare bird 14k doesn't come up often on these movements in this layout. As well I noticed there isn't any Swiss on the dial any indication as to a replacement dial ?

Certificate from the Archives

 
 By: social1 : May 29th, 2018-12:23
can be ordered through an authorized V&C(VC) dealer in your area, call them and give them the case # and movement #; they will charge you up to $200 and you will have to wait 4-6 weeks to get a response; if the case and movement match, then they will ... 

Thank you

 
 By: mohammad : May 29th, 2018-14:10
Thank you social1 for all your responses and seems Iam going to refrain from buying it since I found reference 33084 in mint condition . what do you think about Vacheron Constantin 33084 ?

nice one,

 
 By: social1 : May 29th, 2018-14:22
send me some pics please...

My Pleasure

 
 By: mohammad : May 29th, 2018-16:35
Sure . ...  

You can just send them the case and movement number for $0 over email. Which you can find on VC’s website and do so in your PJ without getting out of bed...

 
 By: Rogi : May 29th, 2018-14:44
If the numbers don’t match (ie they don't send you back the production year as each movement and caseback numbers were paired together) then you know its not a legitimate piece (ie paired together from two watches or a fake etc), if they do then you know ...