Heuer Manufactured for Zodiac and Clebar

Jan 13, 2011,11:48 AM
 

Heuer manufactured watches for both the Zodiac and Clebar brands during the 1960s.  Many of these "Poor Man's Heuers" used the Valjoux 72 and 92 movements.  Have a look here to see some of these Zodiacs and Clebars -- http://www.onthedash.com/poormans.shtml

I doubt that Heuer would have manufactured your watch, as Heuer did not use this Venus movement in any of its watches.

Another observation is that the case looks very 1950s, while the dial and hands look very 1960s.  In fact, the dial and hands could be from one of these Poor Man's Heuers.

So I'm not sure what you have, but maybe this will give you some further information that will lead you along the right path.

Jeff

 

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Zodiac Chronograph - Venus 178

 
By: tdn.dk : January 13th, 2011-10:43
Hi I purchased this Zodiac Chronograph today. The movement is a Venus 178 and it is probaly from the second half of the sixties. I wouldt appreciate if any one know's something about the watch Best Thomas This message has been edited by tdn.dk on 2011-01-...  

Clebar

 
By: tdn.dk : January 13th, 2011-11:36
is a brand name owned by Zodiac. Maybee some one knows more? Best Thomas

in that case, looking at...

 
By: G99 : January 13th, 2011-11:40
in that case, looking at the fact that the case and movement are marked 'clebar' is it possible that the dial is not original and a clebar dial has been replaced with a zodiac dial ?? just a thought Graham

It should be ok

 
By: tdn.dk : January 13th, 2011-11:48
I have found one for sale with Zodiac on the dial and the Clebar on the movement and i the forum http://www.vintagezodiacs.com they have said okay for it is original. In the start of the sixties it was sold under the name Clebar and in the mid sixties Cle... 

Heuer Manufactured for Zodiac and Clebar

 
By: Jeff Stein : January 13th, 2011-11:48
Heuer manufactured watches for both the Zodiac and Clebar brands during the 1960s. Many of these "Poor Man's Heuers" used the Valjoux 72 and 92 movements. Have a look here to see some of these Zodiacs and Clebars -- http://www.onthedash.com/poormans.shtml... 

More questions than answers

 
By: Ubik : January 14th, 2011-04:47
This watch poses a lot of questions in my mind. I'm a bit pushed today but I can give you some quick thoughts. The Venus 178 was Breitling's workhourse movement (Navitimer, etc), comparable to the Valjoux 72 and the Omega 321, it was primarily used by Bre...  

That is....

 
By: BDLJ : January 14th, 2011-04:51
...a brilliant post, Ubik. Thanks. Superb info. Is this the movement Breitling used in the Cadette? Or am I completely off?

Venus movements

 
By: Ubik : January 14th, 2011-06:14
BDLJ, Breitling used mostly Venus movements from the Forties through to the end of the Sixties for the basic chronographs. Then they used Valjoux and their automatic chronograph caliber Cal 11/12, etc into the Seventies. The Venus 178 was a three register... 

Thanks.....

 
By: tdn.dk : January 15th, 2011-08:38
Thanks to all of you. I have got the late sixties confirmed in a Breitling forum where there were some Venus 178 eksperts who dated it to 1967. Now with leatherband (keeps the original band of course) Best Thomas This message has been edited by tdn.dk on ...