Mickey Mouse Zeniths are so wrong

Jan 22, 2017,09:40 AM
 

Magnus,


I am glad that overlapping dysfunctional dials will be verboten in future.

To be pedantic, these Zenith are more like Mickey Mouse than Panda dials.

Panda faces are more like the ones below....













Chopard Superfast Chrono Porsche 919 Jacky Ickx Edition


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Geneva Watch Fair 2017: Zenith's new 'Panda-Twins': El Primero 36'000 VPH in ceramised Alu

 
 By: Ornatus-Mundi : January 22nd, 2017-01:46
Zenith's new case material ceramised aluminium makes its entry into its mainstream collection with two new powerfully designed 'chiaroscuro' (bright and dark, as Zenitih's italian-born PR manager told me) versions of the El Primero 36'000 VPH - I call the...  

Delighted to read the postscript below

 
 By: ifraher : January 22nd, 2017-03:38
That design has hindered many an otherwise successful watch design. If the could release both of these 'minutes first or take the actual sub dial diameter down slightly like the range rover reference they would solve a major gripe of owners, prospective c... 

The Range Rover edition is I think a very, very attractive implementation...

 
 By: Ornatus-Mundi : January 23rd, 2017-03:38
which has been very carefull studied by JCB... Best, Magnus

Between the two my choice would be black subdials on silver dial

 
 By: iadxb : January 22nd, 2017-03:57
But in reality I wouldn't go for either, I like my Zeniths a but more colorful. I would be curious to know more about ceramicized aluminum. From end user perspective, how does it compare to cases coated with DLC or made of standard ceramics?

Good question! From what I know, the ceramicisation process lends surfrace strength and resilience...

 
 By: Ornatus-Mundi : January 23rd, 2017-03:39
to the otherwise rather soft aluminium. Excellent question, I shall inquire! Magnus

Difficult to choose between the two -- can't wait to see them in the metal!

 
 By: syf : January 22nd, 2017-04:13
Which did you prefer? Very pleased to see the comment in the PS!

Excellent report dear friend

 
 By: Ares501 - Mr Green : January 22nd, 2017-04:29
but that's not a news coming from you Looks like interesting times are ahead for us Zenith fans From these two very handsome watches I would go for black on white Cheers D

Thanks for the report

 
 By: crown comfort : January 22nd, 2017-05:47
initially, I was a bit concerned that those two new models are an outlook to the future, for me Zenith moving closer to the other LVMH brands, i.e. Tag and Hublot. But good to hear that this is not the case and that Zenith will go back to its DNA. Let's s... 

CC, I am absolutely sure that Zenith's future lies closer to its roots. We shall not forget...

 
 By: Ornatus-Mundi : January 23rd, 2017-03:41
that JCB just accepted the position as (interim) CEO. Magnus

Mickey Mouse Zeniths are so wrong

 
 By: MTF : January 22nd, 2017-09:40
Magnus, I am glad that overlapping dysfunctional dials will be verboten in future. To be pedantic, these Zenith are more like Mickey Mouse than Panda dials. Panda faces are more like the ones below.... Chopard Superfast Chrono Porsche 919 Jacky Ickx Editi...  

Chopard did the clever move of seeking a technical solution to the issue of overlapping subdials...

 
 By: Ornatus-Mundi : January 23rd, 2017-03:46
in that they positioned the hours and minutes counter atop the central axis, similar to a quartz chronograph movement. That way, the movement could be realised with a reasonably small diameter yet still avoiding overlapping subdials even in larger watches... 

White dial for me!

 
 By: massi. : January 22nd, 2017-09:51
What you wrote in the postscriptum is really great news! However, the large diameter of the case makes the counters too close at the center: something that aesthetically disturbing the whole... This great house deserves a bright future, and above all, fai... 

The postscript is music to my ears

 
 By: logan2z : January 22nd, 2017-11:37
And not Mickey Mouse ears The overlapping subdials have ruined many Zenith watches for me, as has the subdials being too close to the center of the dial. I'm hoping that both issues are rectified by a newly developed chronograph movement that better suits... 

Again: WAIT;-) [nt]

 
 By: Ornatus-Mundi : January 23rd, 2017-03:47

White dial for me! Looks more unusual and panda like :)

 
 By: Makilla : January 22nd, 2017-12:53
Thx for sharing Magnus, Laurent

I have a lot of respect for Zenith

 
 By: Mostel : January 22nd, 2017-17:02
but the subdials are just too close... Zenith 'deserves' better... either the case is too big or movement too small... Panda... been done so many times... It's quite nice. But... shrug... I await Zenith breaking some new ground in some new way... I don't ... 

i think these are a step in the right direction

 
 By: keks : January 23rd, 2017-04:44
I would like to think the future lies ahead for Z and sincerely hope JCB finds a CEO to take the brand where it belongs to be. It has tremendous amount of potential and no real reasons for not getting there. Exciting times ahead I hope for.

Thanks for your postscriptum....

 
 By: stere : January 24th, 2017-04:53
...this is the message I've been waiting for long. I had a little chat with JCB a couple of days ago about the same topic and he promised to solve the problem. As you see at Zenith Stratos: overlapped subdials but on the Stratos rainbow everything is fine...