I think this will be a fun one: A.L. Breguet as the greatest watchmaker of all time!

Jan 21, 2022,21:31 PM
 

Breguet overcoil, tourbillon, popularizing Breguet numerals, popularizing the use of enamel dials (check out his watches for Turkish collectors), popularizing guilloche for watch dials, popularizing blued steel hands, his natural escapement which led to movements by Daniels, Journe, Voutilainen, Ferrier and more, his movement on the dial side souscription watches which directly inspired watches by Greubel Forsey, Romain Gauthier, etc., some of the very first shock protection, chronograph, and the first wristwatch (on the wrist of a princess). And that's just off the top of my head.


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Time for G.O.A.T. nominations, guys! . . .

 
 By: Dr No : January 21st, 2022-18:52
. . . let's share our thoughts regarding the greatest all-time performer in any field you can imagine. The Count de Monet posted a slam-dunk G.O.A.T. on TimeOut last week tabbing Muhammed Ali as the greatest boxer in history. (I kinda doubt anyone will di...  

I was early to the party already today,

 
 By: Thomas_3 : January 21st, 2022-19:28
I'll still go with Al Michaels. "Do you believe in miracles"? ...  

Al Michaels it is for your G.O.A.T.! . . .

 
 By: Dr No : January 21st, 2022-19:57
. . . and the watch on your wrist today is? . . .

This Bell & Ross 123-92

 
 By: Thomas_3 : January 21st, 2022-20:25
...  

Michael Mann.

 
 By: InHavenPro : January 21st, 2022-20:02
To choose a person linked with Ali through his masterful cinematic oeuvre. In my mind, and this being inherently subjective, he is the greatest traditional filmmaker of all time. Traditional in the context of the form of film, his execution was always on ...  

Mann's . . .

 
 By: Dr No : January 21st, 2022-20:08
. . . Thief might be the most realistic action film of all time. Good call! And your watch du jour ?

You can witness....

 
 By: InHavenPro : January 21st, 2022-23:05
my level of Miami Vice obsession by a few random belongings strewn across my shelf.... Even more intensively by the childhood image provided below courtesy of my mother .... As far as the ' montre du jour ', I consider the PPro ABR the GOAT of this websit...  

Oh.... Thief....

 
 By: InHavenPro : January 22nd, 2022-00:02
I caught a 35mm print showing at the New Beverly Cinema (the one bought out and currently run by Quentin Tarantino) last November. The theater is crap, the film print was patchy, but the film itself as glorious as the day it came out in 1981. I also purch... 

I lived in that neighborhood in the '80s and saw a few films there . . .

 
 By: Dr No : January 22nd, 2022-00:18
. . . including Black Narcissus , my all-time favorite. Talk about great cinematographers, Jack Cardiff's work on BN . . . . . . is beyond superlatives. I can watch that film 'til my dying day and not tire of it. Art ...  

Never seen it

 
 By: InHavenPro : January 22nd, 2022-00:26
Adding to my must-watch list right now, as well as some of David Lean's selected works which I remember seeing as a kid, but for some reason didn't stick in my mind nearly as much as Mann's offerings. There is the fact that I'm 'just' middle-aged at 37 . ... 

Hey Art, good call. Thief is my favorite movie of all time

 
 By: marcD : January 22nd, 2022-17:04
Saw it when I was 10 and have watched it every year since. It seemed to be James Caan's favorite movie too as I heard him mentioned it many times in interviews when asked.

. . . and I watched . . .

 
 By: Dr No : January 22nd, 2022-17:23
. . . Thief because you recommended it. You must've forgotten.

Indeed,

 
 By: InHavenPro : January 22nd, 2022-21:07
Here's a brief excerpt from one of the most recent interviews he did for the re-release of Thief in 4K by The Criterion Collection:

What a cool guy! . . .

 
 By: Dr No : January 22nd, 2022-22:43
. . . always liked him, ever since Brian's Song .

I feel the same....

 
 By: InHavenPro : January 22nd, 2022-22:55
one of those rare, totally blunt actors, without a hint of anything remotely contrived or insidiously malevolent. Says it and does it like it is. Comes across equally authentically in his roles. Cheers, Filip

And here's the full interview....

 
 By: InHavenPro : January 23rd, 2022-07:03
where he says exactly that ....

Encore stills and footage....

 
 By: InHavenPro : January 22nd, 2022-00:57
Just to add a few.... By the way, Mann has always been quite the horology enthusiast, from what I understand he particularly loves Vacheron Constantin whose timepieces he has used in multiple films including for the Sonny Crockett character in Miami Vice ...  

Elvis xD

 
 By: InHavenPro : January 23rd, 2022-18:08

Rebecca Struthers, greatest English PhD in Horology!

 
 By: Spangles - Dr. Tabby : January 21st, 2022-20:26
And first. ...  

Ok! Rebecca Struthers, PhD . . .

 
 By: Dr No : January 21st, 2022-21:11
. . . it shall be. Let me guess: you're wearing one of her creations today. 🙂 ...  

No, but I'm a fan!

 
 By: Spangles - Dr. Tabby : January 21st, 2022-21:17
I wrote for one of the 5 first people to get their in-house movement, but the slots were taken. Much respect to the Struthers.

Impressive!

 
 By: InHavenPro : January 22nd, 2022-00:04
Haven't heard of her beforehand.... Thanks, Filip

3 GOATs from a history buff 🍻

 
 By: Stoikos : January 21st, 2022-20:32
1. Themistokles of Athens, general and statesman often at odds with the aristocratic ruling class during the dawn of democracy. Preserved the course of Western civilization. In 483 BC, he convinced Athens to build a sprawling fleet. 3 years later, that fl...  

Presumably Cincinnatus was Themistokles' also-ran . . .

 
 By: Dr No : January 21st, 2022-21:15
. . . and also likely to have worn a Panerai.

I think this will be a fun one: A.L. Breguet as the greatest watchmaker of all time!

 
 By: Spangles - Dr. Tabby : January 21st, 2022-21:31
Breguet overcoil, tourbillon, popularizing Breguet numerals, popularizing the use of enamel dials (check out his watches for Turkish collectors), popularizing guilloche for watch dials, popularizing blued steel hands, his natural escapement which led to m... 

Yes, but would he have worn a Panerai . . .

 
 By: Dr No : January 21st, 2022-21:39
. . . or a LIP?

Charles the Hammer? The Crown, of course.

 
 By: Spangles - Dr. Tabby : January 21st, 2022-21:54

Clever! . . .

 
 By: Dr No : January 21st, 2022-22:13
. . . . . .

No argument here ♕

 
 By: Stoikos : January 21st, 2022-22:33

Agree. Love Charles Martel

 
 By: Stoikos : January 21st, 2022-22:31
Some recent historians have disputed the claim that he saved Western Civ at Tours as exaggerated propaganda by the Carolingians/Papacy. Also, the European rediscovery of the Greco-Roman tradition during the Renaissance was made possible because the Islami... 

Agree.

 
 By: Stoikos : January 21st, 2022-22:23
Cincinnatus’ achievement, while great, came hundreds of years before Rome led Western Civ, so it’s difficult to predict the extent of his influence. Whereas Mr. Themistokles’ claim to fame emerges at a critical point in the Western narrative. That all sai... 

All brilliant entries....

 
 By: InHavenPro : January 22nd, 2022-04:38
despite me never having an affinity for Shakespeare, either literary or screen adaptations in particular, one cannot conceivably argue with his monumental, everlasting influence. On the other hand, I am equally enamored, as you are, with Themistokles of A... 

Thank you, Filip 🍻

 
 By: Stoikos : January 22nd, 2022-12:48
Yeah, me too; studying a little Buddhism when I was young was broadening and very gratifying. And it’s always interesting to see its influence in art and pop culture. I’ve not read Gottlieb but am intrigued by your description and enthusiasm. He’s is my q... 

G.O.A.T.: Classic Cartier Tank

 
 By: enjoythemusic : January 21st, 2022-22:01
The greatest tank timepiece for men AND women! Looks great for the wife on the lavender leather strap, and white to match our puppy dog... or black strap and it's the perfect men's timepiece. Cartier's longstanding Tank has been the G.O.A.T. for many deca...  

I agree with your sentiment....

 
 By: InHavenPro : January 22nd, 2022-00:05
when it comes to the Cartier Tank. Timeless beauty . Cheers, Filip

Ok — fun game!

 
 By: Chromatic Fugue : January 21st, 2022-22:56
Greatest movie villain of all time: Darth Vader. On my wrist? Also Darth. ...  

You've latched onto a no-brainer, CF . . .

 
 By: Dr No : January 21st, 2022-23:02
. . . yeah, Darth's the baddest dude ever to cross the silver screen. Even Hannibal . . . . . . isn't close. G.O.A.T. point for Chromatic Fugue ;-) . . . ...  

You Dog...

 
 By: MikiJ : January 21st, 2022-23:02
You got one and blue is the best one ;-) Wear in good health.

"All good things . . .

 
 By: Dr No : January 21st, 2022-23:06
. . . come to he who waits." 😌

When I hear "GOAT" I see red

 
 By: cazalea : January 21st, 2022-23:12
I'm sorry, what was the question? Greatest Simple! Greatest, complex, strapping it on now (as soon as I adjust the date a few weeks ahead). Cazalea ...  

So John Z DeLorean was the G.O.A.T. auto exec . . .

 
 By: Dr No : January 22nd, 2022-00:11
. . . because he developed the GTO? 🐐

Sort of

 
 By: cazalea : January 22nd, 2022-05:35
John Z stamped Ok on the budget request but the real father of the GTO (boots on the ground) was Jim Wangers. But John Z also helped deliver the DeLorean so he gets some credit (but not greatest of all time)

Thanks for the link, Mike. Our neighbor in Montebello back in '68 had an H O Pontiac Firebird . . .

 
 By: Dr No : January 22nd, 2022-05:56
. . . that I'd give my Flightmaster for. And I really, really , love that Flightmaster.

Your 1894 is drop dead gorgeous

 
 By: TeutonicCarFan : January 21st, 2022-23:50
Since I learned of it from you I keep looking on chrono. There is one in Italy that looks nice. Your dial variant seems unique...beauty. I put my omega on tonight, not GOAT just omega love back at you. As for GOAT.... ...  

MJ.

 
 By: InHavenPro : January 22nd, 2022-00:08
In his domain, no question. Cheers, Filip

Michael Jordan! . . .

 
 By: Dr No : January 22nd, 2022-00:08
. . . another G.O.A.T. no-brainer . . .

Roger Federer

 
 By: mhz vph : January 22nd, 2022-03:12
For the tennis fans here, that can be a controversial take. Novak Djokovic probably has the greatest claim to the title of tennis GOAT in terms of records and stats. Rafael Nadal also deserves to be in the conversation, with an absurd 13 french open title...  

100% with you....

 
 By: InHavenPro : January 22nd, 2022-03:36
on your sentiments regarding Federer, and I say and think this as a person of Serbian ethnicity!! I like and respect Djokovic a great deal, but Federer is unsurpassed in terms of sheer elegance and beauty of the game he has played so poignantly.... Cheers... 

Federer as G.O.A.T.? Check. And congrats . . .

 
 By: Dr No : January 22nd, 2022-05:26
. . . on the Ming! Art

Join with

 
 By: Quan : January 22nd, 2022-03:16
all green HAGWE ...  

Thanks for joining in, Quan! . . .

 
 By: Dr No : January 22nd, 2022-05:27
. . . any G.O.A.T. nominees? Art

Not sure

 
 By: Quan : January 23rd, 2022-05:02
This count ...  

Already a GOAT to me but just getting started

 
 By: Watchonthewrist : January 22nd, 2022-08:04
Rexhep Rexhepi and the great team of Akrivia HAGWE ...  

GOAT among the Cowboys..

 
 By: S F : January 22nd, 2022-09:58
A number of candidates but in my book, Troy Aikman. With what I am wearing this week.🍻 ...  

Troy Aikmann over Tom Brady!? . . .

 
 By: Dr No : January 22nd, 2022-17:28
. . . or just as a member of the Dallas Cowboys? 🤔

Two GOATS

 
 By: myles721 : January 22nd, 2022-13:06
Bobby Fischer Even with his troubled past and ignominious end Bobby Fischer was there for his country (and himself) when he was needed. He went up against the entire Soviet chess machine alone. He took on their player, coaches and analysts. But of course ...  

Yes!!! Cha Cha champion 🕺

 
 By: myles721 : January 22nd, 2022-14:00

Exactomundo! 👍

 
 By: COUNT DE MONET : January 22nd, 2022-16:03

Lee and Fisher....

 
 By: InHavenPro : January 22nd, 2022-22:59
are both excellent choices. Great Omega by the way!! Cheers, Filip

I've long wondered if Bruce Lee ever competed . . .

 
 By: Dr No : January 22nd, 2022-23:12
. . . against Mike Stone. Thanks to YouTube, there's a definitive answer. Mike Stone's nickname . . . . . . was 'The Animal'. A pit bull approaching him on the street would cross over to the other side. ;-)

So this is a VERY interesting question which I believe I can answer for you.

 
 By: myles721 : January 23rd, 2022-00:05
Bruce Lee did not like ring fighting because he felt it was “unrealistic” and believed no rules Street fighting was the true test. There are all sorts of venues all with different rules. Now…today as far as I’m concerned only WBA (western boxing) and UFC ... 

Both great drivers for sure! 👍

 
 By: Chronometer (aka yacomino) : January 22nd, 2022-16:10

Drivers are a difficult category to analyze . . .

 
 By: Dr No : January 22nd, 2022-18:16
. . . because their skills are largely beyond our ability to assess. Yes, there are won/loss records to compare, but there are so many external variable factors in auto (and motorcycle) racing that assessing G.O.A.T. is a considerably more nuanced affair.... 

Well put.

 
 By: InHavenPro : January 22nd, 2022-23:00

100%

 
 By: InHavenPro : January 22nd, 2022-23:05
Plus, Hamilton is quite the idiot despite his racing skill....

Illuminating! Haven't paid attention to pro sports . . .

 
 By: Dr No : January 23rd, 2022-19:43
. . . since political correctness supplanted honor, duty, and country. Art

100%

 
 By: InHavenPro : January 23rd, 2022-20:46

You got that right.

 
 By: myles721 : January 23rd, 2022-22:00

The G.O.A.T. football player: Diego Armando Maradona

 
 By: COUNT DE MONET : January 22nd, 2022-16:25
" oh mamma mamma mamma, sai perché mi batte el corazon, ho visto Maradona, ho visto Maradona, ué mammà, innamorato so'!!!" (Oh mother my heart beat beats faster, because I saw Maradona, I am in love !!!) 1986 against England: hand of God goal Shortly afte...  

Love it!!!

 
 By: myles721 : January 22nd, 2022-16:46
Also like the Omega Soccer Timer from the 70’s ...  

That's an Omega! 👍

 
 By: COUNT DE MONET : January 22nd, 2022-17:09

Over Pelé? . . .

 
 By: Dr No : January 22nd, 2022-17:52
. . . most interesting, Count. Intrigued, Art

Pelé is not the player of my time

 
 By: COUNT DE MONET : January 22nd, 2022-18:43
Pelé is too tame as a personality, Maradona was flamboyand: signs for the poorest club in Ital, the SSC Napoli, albeit being the most expensive player at the time. It was to all people blatant where that money came from 😃.

Awesome! :)

 
 By: InHavenPro : January 22nd, 2022-23:09

They were both GOATs....

 
 By: InHavenPro : January 23rd, 2022-00:12
in their own idiosyncratic ways........

Can't argue....

 
 By: InHavenPro : January 22nd, 2022-23:08
with that statement

Lean is the master, Art 🎥

 
 By: Stoikos : January 22nd, 2022-17:01
Where does Kubrick rank for you? He’s my #1. But these things are so subjective when you get to the top 15

John Huston is from the same generation as Lean. Kubrick is another generatuon.

 
 By: COUNT DE MONET : January 22nd, 2022-17:12
Sure Kubrick is also a G.O.A.T.

I think of all three as contemporaries . . .

 
 By: Dr No : January 22nd, 2022-17:48
. . . but yes, Kubrick outlasted Lean and Huston.

Kubrick's a notable, for . . .

 
 By: Dr No : January 22nd, 2022-17:45
. . . sure. Paths of Glory is a favorite. But his directorial skills, in my estimation, are of a conservative nature. His films are compelling, but it's hard to claim any as pure cinematic art save for 2001 . When critics are studying our era a thousand y... 

Hey, fair enough; no doubt Lean is glorious 👍🏻

 
 By: Stoikos : January 22nd, 2022-20:35
For me, I could watch 2001, Shining, Clockwork, Barry Lyndon, or Eyes Wide Shut at any time. I respond to Kubrick’s use of color, dead-pan/bleak-comedy (one step darker than black comedy) pauses, anti-authoritarian themes, and slow burn zooms… just find t... 

The bear signaling left . . .

 
 By: Dr No : January 22nd, 2022-22:18
. . . has gotta be the greatest comic scene . . . . . . in history.

Totally on point....

 
 By: InHavenPro : January 22nd, 2022-23:14
with 2001. It is by far my favorite of Kubrick's, including the majestic Dr. Strangelove . Cheers, Filip

Plus 1…no shade on Lean…

 
 By: myles721 : January 22nd, 2022-18:18

Exactly.

 
 By: InHavenPro : January 22nd, 2022-23:13
I love some of Kubrick's work, but not all, and after all he has significantly influenced the people whom I actually like the most. Irrespective of all that, the filmmakers whom I like best are simply the people whose philosophical and aesthetic sensibili... 

Steve Jobs, the greatest entrepreneur of all time, the pioneer of personal computers.

 
 By: Sfwatchlover : January 22nd, 2022-18:07
I'm wearing today a timepiece from Japan as well, the Grand Hagane from Kurono Tokyo. Everyone have a very nice weekend! ...  

Jobs might have competition from John D . . .

 
 By: Dr No : January 22nd, 2022-18:20
. . . who had a higher NAV in 1900 than the Federal government's budget. In other words, a comparable entrepreneur today would have to be worth six trillion dollars to have the same relative level of wealth. 💸

Good point and interesting perspective.

 
 By: Sfwatchlover : January 22nd, 2022-20:40
Jobs’ personal wealth was never ranked at the top, but he may win the title of the co-founder of the world’s most valuable company. Cheers!

Jobs (and Wozniak) would have contemporary competition from Elon Musk, Larry Page . . .

 
 By: Dr No : January 22nd, 2022-21:09
. . . and Sergey Brin, and Jeff Bezos, too. But Jobs was the only one who was dismissed from the firm he founded and then returned to excel. G.O.A.T. for sure!

Yeah, totally agree!

 
 By: Sfwatchlover : January 23rd, 2022-02:29
Another great achievement is Pixar, which Jobs purchased, ran it as CEO, and then sold to Disney.

My answer is left of field…

 
 By: Andy_Mac : January 22nd, 2022-18:52
…as my G.O.A.T. is most likely unbeknownst to, or relevant to, anybody but myself. It’s my grandfather, who I’ll refer to as WJM. During the First World War, he joined the Royal Flying Corps as a young man, and trained as pilot. In 1918 he was shot down o...  

Perilous times produced heroes . . .

 
 By: Dr No : January 22nd, 2022-19:05
. . . like your Grandfather. Integrity, dignity, service to country . . . uncommon virtues today. Deeply impressed, Art

Thanks Art

 
 By: Andy_Mac : January 22nd, 2022-19:09
He didn’t talk about it much. Just wanted to get on with things. He was humble.

A hero.

 
 By: myles721 : January 22nd, 2022-19:21
My grandfather fought for the USA in the Lost Battalion…two Purple Hearts shot through the throat but lived til 100!!! What lives they lead 💜💜💜

Wonderful.

 
 By: InHavenPro : January 22nd, 2022-23:22
Thanks for the stories and images! Cheers, Filip

What a remarkable story, and thank you so much for sharing this!

 
 By: KCLQMULKU : January 23rd, 2022-17:24
Does the watch get any wrist time?

Epic and fascinating story …

 
 By: Cpt Scarlet : January 23rd, 2022-21:15
Thank you for sharing this with us on WristScan.

One More - Philosophy....

 
 By: InHavenPro : January 22nd, 2022-23:33
Our conversation with Stoikos turned more philosophical so I naturally felt obligated to add one more G.O.A.T. to this thread (my second entry) - Immanuel Kant . Subjectively, unquestionably the thinker who influenced me the most and the reasoning is plai...  

Are you familiar with my philosophy of life? . . .

 
 By: Dr No : January 23rd, 2022-08:54
. . . "Drive German, eat Italian, and drink Mexican. You can't go wrong." (Actually, Bentham said it first, but somewhat less poignantly.)

Or that :)

 
 By: InHavenPro : January 23rd, 2022-09:08
Although I don't see much utilitarianism in having your preferences strewn across two continents lol ....

The Greatest …

 
 By: Cpt Scarlet : January 23rd, 2022-11:17
Hi Art and friends ! I would like to nominate the crew of Apollo 11 and specifically Commander Neil Armstrong. The reason is, Armstrong took manual control of the Eagle lander as the computer guidance system was malfunctioning. Without his unparalleled sk...  

Yes…

 
 By: Cpt Scarlet : January 23rd, 2022-17:08
Tougher than you think 👍

Very nive patina 👌

 
 By: COUNT DE MONET : January 23rd, 2022-14:21

Thank you …

 
 By: Cpt Scarlet : January 23rd, 2022-17:08
I agree 😬

I was waiting for this, and your post captured it perfectly!

 
 By: KCLQMULKU : January 23rd, 2022-17:29
I can only imagine the pressure and stress that he had faced, whether things were going according to plan or not. Nerves of steel! Like with any profession, knowledge and experience means nothing without focus and not allowing anything to affect that.

Thank you …

 
 By: Cpt Scarlet : January 23rd, 2022-17:42
It’s a fascinating subject… Armstrong and Aldrin must have had nerves of steel, several computer error alarms sounded during the decent. The first was a code 1202 alarm, even with their extensive training neither Armstrong nor Aldrin knew what this code m... 

Armstrong almost died in training …

 
 By: Cpt Scarlet : January 23rd, 2022-18:14
He ejected, the margin between life and death was later calculated at less than half a second ! ...  

I dread to think …

 
 By: Cpt Scarlet : January 23rd, 2022-18:40
Have you ever visited “The Cape” Kennedy Space Centre ?

It’s really worth the effort.

 
 By: Cpt Scarlet : January 23rd, 2022-18:46

Both pure icons

 
 By: Stoikos : January 23rd, 2022-18:38

In total agreement here.

 
 By: InHavenPro : January 23rd, 2022-20:58
To infinity and beyond!

Since I was young two, for me at least, fit this category

 
 By: KCLQMULKU : January 23rd, 2022-17:48
Frédéric Chopin and Lucien Freud. I could think of nothing more fitting than my humble Tudor BB58B. ...  

Lucien Freud …

 
 By: Cpt Scarlet : January 23rd, 2022-18:45
Fascinating and at times controversial. ...  

Finally, a G.O.A.T. I'm unfamiliar with. If 'a-artistic' were an actual word . . .

 
 By: Dr No : January 23rd, 2022-18:48
. . . the dictionary definition would be illustrated by my image. Lucien Freud as artist Great it shall be. And I'm amazed you're the first to submit a composer . . . I would've thought there would've been at least a few others by now. My favorites - not ...  

😆 I would have thought so too.

 
 By: KCLQMULKU : January 23rd, 2022-19:18
Very interesting selection, though I shamefully admit not knowing either, and will do some light research on them both!

Frederick Delius? You've probably heard him . . .

 
 By: Dr No : January 23rd, 2022-19:48
. . . even if you haven't heard of him. 😌

Three Legends: Patek Philippe X Breguet X McIntosh Labs

 
 By: enjoythemusic : January 23rd, 2022-18:39
This is a more intriguing timepiece than you may consider at first glance. Patek Philippe's reference 3820 in rose gold is powered by their ultra-thin 18-jewel manual-wind calibre 177, which is a mere 1.77mm thick. As perhaps the thinnest timepiece Patek ...  

Ah, a Mac fan! I'm sure you're at least contemplating a second mortgage . . .

 
 By: Dr No : January 23rd, 2022-18:51
. . . to acquire their latest release. MC3500 . . . inspired by the amps that powered Woodstock. Art ...  

Grateful Dead too I think?

 
 By: myles721 : January 23rd, 2022-20:35

No wonder their outtakes sound . . .

 
 By: Dr No : January 23rd, 2022-20:45
. . . so good! Fenders, Harley Davidsons, and Mac amps . . . American legends. 🇺🇸