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German or Swiss?
The case is marked with a "crown in circle" and 14k gold fineness of "0,585" which were required by German law on cases made in or imported to that country. David Boettcher has a thorough write-up on his website vintagewatchstraps, stating the marks were often applied by Swiss case makers intending to market to Germany, but have also been found on Swiss watches which were never exported to that country! However, the absence of any accompanying Swiss hallmarks suggests either this is a German case or manufactured to a German order. The lack of a case maker's mark means we will never know. I don't know the significance of "56" above the gold fineness, perhaps someone interested in German watchmaking can help us out.
I should also amend my earlier comments. Cyma was a brand, not a Manufacture. It was created to market Tavannes watches through the Schwob Frères distribution network. Eventually, like Blancpain and Rayville, the tradename became more famous than the brand ;-)
photo credit Alius, omegaforums.net ;
photo credit Alius, omegaforums.net ;
Same design, different brands .
I have always been interested in the design of V&C before 1938, which is imaginative. Especially photo REF 2157/2158/2462 They are not just a watch, they are miniature sculpture art. I think little number of each model were produced at the time, and after...
Always a surprice
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Fascinating but not surprising
Good find! Curious how you determined the Cyma has a German case, can you show us the case markings? Thanks for providing the photo reference number for the V&C. You noticed no doubt that it was one of a set of three watches with highly stylized lugs ...
German or Swiss?
The case is marked with a "crown in circle" and 14k gold fineness of "0,585" which were required by German law on cases made in or imported to that country. David Boettcher has a thorough write-up on his website vintagewatchstraps, stating the marks were ...
Russian zolotniks
"I don't know the significance of "56" above the gold fineness, perhaps someone interested in German watchmaking can help us out." LOL, I forgot our earlier discussion here; "56" zolotniks was the Russian standard for 14k gold, so this was another potent...
Franch case
An ongoing auction , a vintage V&C with French case. The eagle is the mark of 18k gold, and the mark of the case maker is inside the rhombus. I see a Maltese cross, and the rest of the letters are not clear. I don’t know if the case maker used the Maltese...
here is another example
of the same French maker's mark, perhaps "D+T". The ebauche was exported without case, the Extracts I've seen for these French pieces do not identify the case makers (Verger was one of them but this is not their mark). Apparently this situation was motiva...
I should read vintagewatchstraps's web many times.
and on other article , he told the different between "enamel dial " and "enamel paint" . the dial of photo ref 2157 made of enamel paint ?
