It's difficult to judge the value

Aug 18, 2019,20:49 PM
 


It's even more difficult to get spare parts for those pocket watches then for the V&C wrist watches.

Therefor to start the attempt to bring a pocket watch back to live will be well thought about in advance, especially if you are not able to do the movement re-work yourself.
You have to pay the watchmaker to rebuild the parts or you have to buy another wreck - otherwise no spares available.
Read that descriptions of re-work on a CoE pocket watch: link 1 ; link 2 (page 26)

The recommendation for the aficionado: If you intend to buy one of the Vacheron & Constantin Corps of Engineers monopusher chronograph pocket watches, do look for a better sample which looks consistent in all parts.
No mix-builts, repairs, wrecks etc.. The watches with full function are still available at a moderate rate and they are still great value for money - if thinking about the V&C (low end) pocket chrono.


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Corps of Engineers VC Movement Identification?

 
 By: Laser01 : August 16th, 2019-11:20
Hi, This is my first time posting, I am new to pocket watches and I have have just bough this watch and I hope it is good. The stem is missing but it works. Any information world be great. The movement caught my attention. Case # 23570, Watch ID 1720 Seri...  

Welcome to our community ! [nt]

 
 By: Cpt Scarlet : August 16th, 2019-11:22

All I can tell you is that thing is pretty cool!

 
 By: Brandon Skinner : August 16th, 2019-11:31
Welcome to Purists!

It seems highly complex for a time-only pocket watch!

 
 By: cazalea : August 16th, 2019-12:02
Let's see what the community knows about this. Welcome! Cazalea

Wasn’t this

 
 By: Jurry : August 16th, 2019-12:40
Wasn’t this a series of pocket watches VC made for the US corps? Ps welcome to the forum

Yes

 
 By: Laser01 : August 16th, 2019-12:45
Yes it is but based on my level of research and a novice the movement seems different to the ones I see online.

I found this

 
 By: Jurry : August 16th, 2019-12:45
...  

Thank you!!! [nt]

 
 By: Laser01 : August 16th, 2019-12:46

What we already know

 
 By: anon438 : August 16th, 2019-22:49
Thanks to Tick Talk some knowledge has already been put together: part 1 (Dec 28, 2009) part 2 (Jan 28, 2011) part 3 (Dec 06, 2011) and some info from VC is available also: Vacheron Constantin VC The Hour Lounge But the complete story about the V&C C... 

Stem

 
 By: Laser01 : August 17th, 2019-02:43
The seller indicated that the watch works with a non original stem thar does not stay in place, but it winds the clock and it works. I noticed that the movement on my watch is different from the ones in the article. I am waiting for the watch to arrive. T...  

A non original stem that not stay in place?

 
 By: anon438 : August 17th, 2019-04:01
Well that seems to be a joke, right? It does only make sens to invest in repair if it would be possible to authenticate the watch - including the movement of course. At the moment it's not a watch, it's a project - with open end.

Tick Talk

 
 By: Laser01 : August 17th, 2019-17:29
Hopefully Tick Talk seeshow this post and comments. Thank you for your information.

You should get in contact with him

 
 By: anon438 : August 18th, 2019-10:15
Tick Tack aka Dan has long experience with V&C pocket watches. My best guess is, that movement shouldn't be that V&C CoE watch case. Look at that site that's basically the same movement: Link But do not expect too much, not any movement of the same type w... 

Movement

 
 By: Laser01 : August 18th, 2019-11:51
I paid 900 for it hopefully I did not over pay, I will get in contact with Dan

It's difficult to judge the value

 
 By: anon438 : August 18th, 2019-20:49
It's even more difficult to get spare parts for those pocket watches then for the V&C wrist watches. Therefor to start the attempt to bring a pocket watch back to live will be well thought about in advance, especially if you are not able to do the movemen... 

Great Information

 
 By: Laser01 : August 19th, 2019-05:24
Timeset, thank you for all the wonderful links and information you have provided to me. I am knew to pocket watches and have a lot to learn. In my city we do have a local watchmaker which I plan to take the watch to to look it over. I greatly appreciate t... 

Re: Great Information

 
 By: anon438 : August 19th, 2019-21:00
How to proceed? To check if that watch was built with that movement - case combination, you have to ask the concierge at Vacheron Constantin - they are able to answer that question. It's essential to know that. The highest value is for those watches still... 

Thank you!!!

 
 By: Laser01 : August 20th, 2019-05:15
Thank you for the advice you provided. It is very helpful!! I greatly appriciate your information.

Watch works

 
 By: Laser01 : August 23rd, 2019-07:52
I received the watch and I was able to set the time and it is runing. The watch is keeping good time. Still waiting to hear back from VC, I will then order an extract from the archives. Once again thank you for all you information and guidance.

recommendation

 
 By: anon438 : August 23rd, 2019-07:58
do not use the watch whilst defect, maybe you make the problem worse

Thank you

 
 By: Laser01 : August 24th, 2019-12:35
Great advice, the chronograph also works, the watch is working 100%.

How do I PM Tick Tack

 
 By: Laser01 : August 19th, 2019-05:32
I tried to PM him but when I press on the PM button nothing happens thank you very much!

contact Tick Talk

 
 By: anon438 : August 19th, 2019-08:49
# here he droped it

Contact Tick Talk

 
 By: Laser01 : August 20th, 2019-10:03
I do not have an Instagram account hopefully he see this post and and provides some information. I reached out to Vacheron requesting information on the watch, will let you know once I am informed. Thank you

Why not use the email?

 
 By: anon438 : August 20th, 2019-10:46
Look at the second posting on his instagram profile.

I found it thank you! [nt]

 
 By: Laser01 : August 20th, 2019-11:17

A very nice specimen of an important watch you have here!

 
 By: mrds : August 16th, 2019-22:58
Welcome to our community, laser01! Please do share more of your interests and collection. Best, Daniel

Still no feedback's from Tick-Talk?

 
 By: anon438 : August 27th, 2019-03:12
Well I'm happy you are happy with your aquisition. But I've to say your watch is still defect and moreover it's also a risk if it stays defect - you should get it fixed by a professional or ceep it at least save. Did you ever heard about the 'Radium Girls... 

In communication with Tick Talk

 
 By: Laser01 : August 27th, 2019-13:01
I sent you a pm. He has been very helpful!!! and VC informed me that the year of manufacture was 1918 and I ordered an extract from the archives. Once I receive the extract I am going to have a watchmaker find a proper stem and crown for the watch and ins... 

What he could tell you about the movement?

 
 By: anon438 : August 27th, 2019-19:56
It wasn't the standard in those watches.

Sent you a pm [nt]

 
 By: Laser01 : August 28th, 2019-05:28

Extract Archive Update

 
 By: Laser01 : September 25th, 2019-13:51
I received the VC Extract from the Archives and the movement/caliber is a RA19/20'''. Year of manufacture is 1919. Once again thank you for all that have provided help in this post.