Thank you again, timeset...

Apr 19, 2019,00:42 AM
 

You are a gentleman.
Cheers,
pplater.

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Anyone able to help?...

 
 By: pplater : April 17th, 2019-20:41
VC experts: your assistance would be much appreciated. The photos which follow show the watch which a good friend inherited from his father (and no: this is not another scam story from a one-post newbie fishing for tips to improve his counterfeit pieces!)...  

I suspect seen how thin the watch is

 
 By: dedestexhes : April 17th, 2019-22:17
that it has a 1120 movement- or at least from that family. It was 3.05 mm high with date. Like a lot of movements back then coming originally from JLC. Also used by Patek and others. That would also tie in with the design of the watch which screams mid 70... 

Thanks Dirk!... [nt]

 
 By: pplater : April 17th, 2019-23:36

Adding my Rough Guess..

 
 By: anon438 : April 18th, 2019-02:03
This is not intended to be an authenticity check, it's just a first rough guess. Made and sold in early to mid 1970's, definitely not late 1960's - my guess: 1975. For the ref, a difficult to answer question - my best guess, a follower or derivative of re...  

Thank you also, Timeset...

 
 By: pplater : April 18th, 2019-02:13
That is a very thorough, and very helpful, response. The comments about the bracelet were just a little confusing though: why do you think it was probably not on bracelet originally, if (on the other hand) at that time you could observe the integrated bra... 

Of course; you are right...

 
 By: pplater : April 18th, 2019-02:39
(pictures did not load first time around). Thank you again for taking that trouble. Cheers, pplater.

Maybe a Vacheron Constantin ref 2051 or at least close by that ref

 
 By: anon438 : April 18th, 2019-07:25
The watch above with the ident dial to yours is a ref 2051, like that below. ...  

You asked this question already six years ago..

 
 By: anon438 : April 18th, 2019-07:48
I did remember: Stay with it, don't give it away! It's a beauty.

Wow!!! You are right!...

 
 By: pplater : April 18th, 2019-07:58
Had COMPLETELY forgotten that the question has been asked before! Now feeling just a little bit ...stupid. Still: it is genuinely a good friend's watch, so (sadly!) his keeper. He will never part with his father's watch, but it is nice to be able to help ... 

you are not stupid

 
 By: anon438 : April 18th, 2019-09:12
I'm stupid because I do not remember your question instantly, just remeber it after writing down that above.

Final Summary

 
 By: anon438 : April 19th, 2019-00:23
Now I'm quite convinced about the ref, it's most certainly a Vacheron & Constantin ref 2050 along with the famous automatic caliber K1121. Shown also below some of the modern derivatives of cal 1120 - still in use with some of the most attractive VC refs ...  

Thank you again, timeset...

 
 By: pplater : April 19th, 2019-00:42
You are a gentleman. Cheers, pplater.

Update

 
 By: anon438 : April 26th, 2019-12:00
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Why do I think those ref's are underrated today?

 
 By: anon438 : April 19th, 2019-01:03
If you look for the most simple slim automatic movement (cal 1120 ...) in the VC portfolio you would discover the Traditionnelle at 30 K. Therefore my estimate for a good used sample would be roughly 25 - 50% of that value (7,5 -15 K), higher only for spe...