I am not aware of any car manufacturer that is vertically integrated

Oct 03, 2011,03:54 AM
 

I am not aware of any car manufacturer that is vertically integrated but it is an interesting parallelism.


I guess making a car just requires too many components (sub-components) so that sub-contractors are always in the picture regardless of the brand.  However, I don't know if anyone who owns a Volvo XC90 really cares that the engine is made by Yamaha. 

In the end, I guess it is all a matter of trusting the brand/manufacturer, be it cars or watches.

Best regards,
Kazumi


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The Caliber 1120

 
 By: WHL : September 29th, 2011-19:53
In writing about the Historiques Ultra-fine 1968 and in thinking about the idea of an ultra thin movement being its own complication, I concluded that there is an inherent desirability to the caliber 1120 and thus the watches in which Vacheron Constantin ...  

Which watch with the 1120?

 
 By: amanico : September 29th, 2011-21:28
This is a very tough question, Bill... Between the QP Skeleton and the Mercator, I'm waving... Both? Great article, Bill. Now, I have to hunt my first VC... Best, Nicolas.

Like eating potato chips....

 
 By: WHL : October 3rd, 2011-11:15
it's hard to stop at just one when it comes to Vacheron Constantin! Bill

I'm a simple guy

 
 By: dshao1 : September 30th, 2011-03:27
and so this is my little beauty with cal 1120. It is a ref. 7592 from 1978. It is 33.5mm in diameter - which is fine for my skinny wrist. My collection centers around some of the best, most noteworthy, VC movements. So cal 1120 had to be a part of it. But...  

We look forward to seeing what's next for you, Dan!

 
 By: WHL : October 3rd, 2011-11:16
Your 1120 watch is lovely. BIll

well, it might be coming out of my watch fund...

 
 By: dshao1 : October 4th, 2011-06:05
but for my better half! Did you get a chance to see the newest offering?

I will be photographing the new Patrimony Contemporaine

 
 By: WHL : October 4th, 2011-07:14
ref 81530 this week. It is gorgeous! There is also a new ladies Malte model with caliber 1400 that I like. Bill

Something missing!

 
 By: Tick Talk : September 30th, 2011-06:51
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Great watch!

 
 By: WHL : October 3rd, 2011-11:17
Though I would want mine to be all stainless steel! Bill

What a post, Bill!

 
 By: respo : September 30th, 2011-13:11
Thank you for this survey. You know how unoriginal I am in my admiration for this movement. I feel fortunate to have its sister 2121 in my Royal Oak, and my experience with the caliber is outstanding. I would love to have another piece in my collection eq... 

The 1120 was in the original as well as the Hisrorques 1968.

 
 By: WHL : October 3rd, 2011-11:19
Sorry for the lack of clarity in my article. Bill

Wow! That really makes the Historiques 1968 even more special

 
 By: respo : October 3rd, 2011-12:51
At least as far as I am concerned. It is amazing to me that a model in the Historiques line uses the same caliber as in the original reference. Wonderful! Thanks for clarifying, Bill

Jaeger-LeCoultre certainly made a fantastic movement! / Rob. [nt]

 
 By: peregrino : September 30th, 2011-15:00
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Credit Where It’s Due… / Rob. [nt]

 
 By: peregrino : October 1st, 2011-01:41
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Credit Georges Ketterer

 
 By: Tick Talk : October 1st, 2011-07:18
I certainly admire the pride, even smugness, that JLC fans have for their reputation as the watchmaker's watchmaker. However, the development of the caliber 1120 ultra-thin movement didn't spring independently from JLC, nor did they develop the movement t... 

Subcontractor. There is nothing like a little history lesson to put things in perspective!

 
 By: Kazumi : October 1st, 2011-09:54
I always enjoy your history lessons, Dean. Everybody and his brother already knows who manufactured the 1120 (2120), but many are not aware or forget the "context" under which this amazing caliber came to be. I'd like to think that the cal. 1120 is what i... 

What I wonder...

 
 By: Tick Talk : October 2nd, 2011-08:07
I still wonder about the arrangement that brought PP briefly into the project. Was it in exchange for their patent rights to the Gyromax balance?

Thanks for your response!

 
 By: peregrino : October 1st, 2011-13:39
The everlasting discussion about what qualifies as an inhouse movement, or not, is always interesting, especially today as it is even more important when it comes to the buyers perception of the brand and its competence, technically speaking. I am certain... 

I am not aware of any car manufacturer that is vertically integrated

 
 By: Kazumi : October 3rd, 2011-03:54
I am not aware of any car manufacturer that is vertically integrated but it is an interesting parallelism. I guess making a car just requires too many components (sub-components) so that sub-contractors are always in the picture regardless of the brand. H... 

Hi Bill, great article, thanks for all the pictures too,

 
 By: timerider : September 30th, 2011-17:50
most appreciated all around. Best, Tim

Thanks, Tim.....

 
 By: WHL : October 3rd, 2011-11:20
Have you ventured into this caliber with a VC watch (yet)? Bill

Smart move ...

 
 By: small-luxury-world : October 3rd, 2011-23:36
my friend Hope all is fine with you. Oliver

Super caliber, exquisite watches...

 
 By: Kazumi : October 1st, 2011-10:31
Thanks for another great read, Bill. I love the cal. 1120 in the skeleton perpetual calendars and I also have a soft spot for the Saltarello (yes, the one that looks like a bathroom scale). I especially like the way the rotor is embellished in these watch... 

Nothing wrong with the Royal Oak.....

 
 By: WHL : October 3rd, 2011-11:22
I even owned a vintage Jumbo at one point. I'm still enthralled with the black dial Boutique 81180 like you have. But that is a different caliber... Bill

My V&C 1120

 
 By: mariosf12 : October 2nd, 2011-02:34
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Beautifully crisp dial! nt

 
 By: Tick Talk : October 2nd, 2011-08:09
nt

Beuatiful watch, Mario!

 
 By: WHL : October 3rd, 2011-11:27
Wear it in the best of health. Bill

The latest RG QP for me, please: what a handsome boy!

 
 By: COUNT DE MONET : October 3rd, 2011-13:03
Certainly, the openworked QP in p would be madness, but if I want to be a bit more "realistic": the RG current QP is a dream. I LOVE these simple, nearly archaic looking sticks like hands. Gives this watch a credible "historical" look, that VC always refe... 

just one? it would be the limited edition Excellence Platine Patirmony Contemporatine

 
 By: playtime : October 10th, 2011-13:29
just gorgeous--and one that really highlights the virtues of this movement. thx for sharing these! J