have you read the watch manual which will advise on winding

Aug 08, 2021,18:39 PM
 

if the model has calibre 4400 which has a power reserve of 65 hours-to fully wind would require approx 80 or more thumb roll turns of the crown
when you feel resistance is normal-(as the mainspring is winding around the barrel arbor) and to keep on going-if you use your nails of your thumb and index finger to wind then you will not over wind as the crown will slip in the nail grip when maximum wind is reached.

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My brand new traditionnelle stopped working the first day….

 
 By: Newt_13 : August 8th, 2021-03:16
Today I picked up a traditionnelle small seconds from an AD, did a few quick wind in store and the seconds was moving and looked fine, when I got home though I fully winded it and set the time, all the sudden the movement completely stopped, I am bringing... 

Don’t settle for anything less than a replacement, and swift one at that.

 
 By: Lankysudanese : August 8th, 2021-04:28
That’s not an inexpensive acquisition by any means, let alone the emotional let-down of a new purchase not functioning properly. Hope it gets sorted out soon Hussam

Can an AD refuse to replace it?

 
 By: Newt_13 : August 8th, 2021-05:16
Just curious if they are going to only offer repair, what will be my leverage? Thanks

If they refuse, then they risk losing any future business from you.

 
 By: Lankysudanese : August 8th, 2021-05:35
An astute AD would pass on the loss to the manufacturer.

Yeah that’s what I figured

 
 By: Newt_13 : August 8th, 2021-05:37
I will update here tomorrow O_O

After how many hours it stopped?

 
 By: agyzace : August 8th, 2021-05:09
And how many wounds did you do? Best regards

About 30 wounds?

 
 By: Newt_13 : August 8th, 2021-05:15
I stopped when I felt the resistance, the watch went on for like 10 secs and suddenly it stopped, this watch as far as I know doesn’t have hacking seconds so when the second stopped I was like wha? The movement also completely stopped

In that case it does seem to require attention

 
 By: agyzace : August 8th, 2021-05:41
The reason I asked is that having two of them, I know the Pt version for example comes with a ‘luxury’ feel version of the wounding gearing which although velvet smooth, makes the winding requiring a comprehensive turn of the crown, for each wind. The wor... 

Good to hear that, I bought it from an AD not the boutique

 
 By: Newt_13 : August 8th, 2021-06:07
So I am not sure if I will get different treatment there…cheers

Keeping fingers crossed

 
 By: agyzace : August 8th, 2021-07:54
Best regards

It is not a special case, no

 
 By: agyzace : August 8th, 2021-08:11
I was also thinking it is bizarre, but they made me try 4 of them to demonstrate it is intended, in order to differentiate the materials/versions. So, my RG boutique edition had the ‘standard’ feel, which makes distinct sound and is quite hard/resistant. ... 

Indeed, these things are not marketed, which is possibly a pity

 
 By: agyzace : August 8th, 2021-13:29
I only found out when I enquired why the feelings between the two are different. Have a great Sunday

Sorry to hear about your new watch,..

 
 By: Musashi83 : August 8th, 2021-07:29
I bought a Historique Triple Calendrier 1942 the first year that it came out. Three days later it stopped running. VC fixed it and a week after I sold it. I know this can happen with any watch manufacturer, but I must admit every time I find myself attrac... 

Sorry reading about this issue.

 
 By: Speedie74 aka Mr. Torquise : August 8th, 2021-07:33
Before you do anything, please knock the case of the watch with your finger very carefully in different places of the watch. Sometimes it helps by handwound-watches... Yours, Adam

A precise instrument

 
 By: Weems@8 : August 8th, 2021-08:23
Watches are, and we talk about mechanical watches, are precise instruments. A piece with a soul. Your watch run in the shop, so no evidence it fell. At home after winding and setting the time (Why does the AD do not set the watch?)….. All my watches, not ... 

Insist on replacement and do not leave the shop with anything less

 
 By: Poky : August 8th, 2021-08:32
I don't know about the consumer's right where you are but in the UK and Europe the consumer can get his money back within the first 30 days of a faulty item. Let us know what happens.

Sorry to hear about the new watch DOA!

 
 By: Moka-Tiger (Ron) : August 8th, 2021-09:03
I had a similar case with a Patek and a Rolex, but not DOA as soon as yours. Maybe a week after buying. It was hard to get replacements because of supply, so I let the shops send them for repair. After the repairs, I will say that these 2 watches were the... 

Let us know what happens when you talk to the AD

 
 By: Chronometer (aka yacomino) : August 8th, 2021-12:23

hacking seconds?

 
 By: golden hands : August 8th, 2021-13:31
i assume this model has the stop seconds for setting the exact time to the second if the movement worked ok in the shop and can be fully wound then i would assume that the lever that stops the balance wheel may be the problem-if you turn over the watch to... 

have you read the watch manual which will advise on winding

 
 By: golden hands : August 8th, 2021-18:39
if the model has calibre 4400 which has a power reserve of 65 hours-to fully wind would require approx 80 or more thumb roll turns of the crown when you feel resistance is normal-(as the mainspring is winding around the barrel arbor) and to keep on going-... 

Update! Just got back from my AD

 
 By: Newt_13 : August 8th, 2021-23:46
So we checked the watch there, it’s fully wounded with frozen movement, they apologies and said they will be demanding a re-pavement from VC, left the whole thing with them and they will update me after they talk to VC, I guess we will have to wait and se... 

Updates! Just got back from my AD

 
 By: Newt_13 : August 8th, 2021-23:47
So we checked the watch there, it’s fully wounded with frozen movement, they apologies and said they will be demanding a replacement from VC, left the whole thing (box and watch) with them and they will update me after they talk to VC, I guess we will hav...