What does “Exclusive” really means nowadays

Oct 06, 2021,09:35 AM

In the latest news via Monochrome, GS has released the US Exclusive Seasons Collection to selected countries worldwide. 

If a friend does this to me, it’s an instant loss of trust and perhaps the entire friendship too.

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Exclusive …

 By: Cpt Scarlet : October 6th, 2021-09:46
Excluding or not admitting other things."an exclusive focus on success and making money" …. … Making money for the manufacturer !

It feels like I got scammed

 By: Cookies : October 6th, 2021-09:59
Like a love scam. Girl comes and gets married to guy, telling him she has no marriage history, and later, he finds oit she was lying. She was once married in another country!

I think I watched this episode …

 By: Cpt Scarlet : October 6th, 2021-18:53
Of the Jerry Springer Show 🤔

Exclusive? Like when you're married?

 By: U3O8 : October 6th, 2021-20:12

Yes spot on

 By: Cookies : October 6th, 2021-20:42
That story came to mind. She invited him to fall in love with her, and did not share the skeletons in the closet with him. He should have gotten a private investigator to check on her, but love is blind, and to do so defeats trust in a relationship. How c... 


 By: PalmSprings : October 6th, 2021-10:17
A new year, and a new release of 'limited', 'special' or 'exclusive' watches. It's getting sad and stale to be honest. Seen it all.

Yes indeed.

 By: Cookies : October 6th, 2021-10:24
They are gonna scare away customers

Very well put

 By: Cookies : October 6th, 2021-10:47

Exclusivity is dead, or almost. And for many years now. With all these brands making variations and variations of limited editions which are not limited anymore...

 By: amanico : October 6th, 2021-10:36
Many examples can be found with Panerai, with the OOR, Audemars, Omega with the Speedie and even my beloved JLC, with the Amvox line, or the Gyrotourbillon One, the Master Minute Repeater and so on... On the other side, there are brands who never claim th... 

I learnt the hard lesson

 By: Cookies : October 6th, 2021-10:44
Nico you have summarized it very well. Their words have become mere puffs, like in a tv telephone sales commercial.

“I just feel informed” well said..

 By: Echi : October 6th, 2021-10:46
I think most of us are past these tricks. If it’s a good watch, at a good price with decent after sales service, I’ll consider it. I’m easy

Once bitten twice shy

 By: Cookies : October 6th, 2021-10:47

I will learn

 By: Cookies : October 6th, 2021-13:16
Part of the journey Nico. From now, no more stupidity on my part to believe the lies of these unscrupulous companies. Caveat emptor.

+1 on caveat emptor...

 By: amanico : October 6th, 2021-13:18

I disagree a little

 By: penfriend : October 6th, 2021-14:01
Exclusivity is almost dead when it comes to value preservation. But as an overall concept it is very alive in these days when so many people are looking to be different within their "ordinary lives" - at least they believe that the have ordinary lives whe... 

YES! Bluntness is the new exclusive trend in watches

 By: penfriend : October 6th, 2021-17:19
the duller and simpler the better. Only when everyone has reached that conclusion there will be room again for exclusiveness


 By: Cookies : October 6th, 2021-20:45
I will learn from this sub 10k lesson from now. No more trust. It’s like buying a sneaker which is supposed to be more special and the next day, every tom dick and harry also has it.


 By: amanico : October 6th, 2021-21:57

Everyone would feel cheated

 By: chintu : October 6th, 2021-12:39
Country specific or Boutique only editions merely serve to create a false aura of exclusivity or limitation and these get over-done gradually. Collectors have every reason to feel let down by these short sighted actions. Sadly; as long as one set of specu... 

I feel they cheated me

 By: Cookies : October 6th, 2021-13:02
I bought the autumn edition thinking it will be special, being a country exclusive, and now this do this lowdown despicable unethical thing.

Wait...You're from Australia, Cookies, but you were able to buy this US exclusive Autumn edition...

 By: Clueless_Collector : October 6th, 2021-17:29
Isn't this already telling you maybe this is why GS realized this strategy is BS and wants to change?

Yes indeed

 By: Cookies : October 6th, 2021-20:04
They did a trunk show here and left behind the US edition in the boutique in Sydney, where I thought it was an oddity and a goof opportunity to get something uncommon, so I bought it.

Agree totally.

 By: Watchlover78 : October 6th, 2021-12:42


 By: Cookies : October 6th, 2021-21:00

Yes, there are seldom any exclusives anymore

 By: Cookies : October 6th, 2021-21:00
I hope to never be fooled by this “Exclusive” terminology anymore, unless it is truly a 50 piece limited edition. Even now, I’m worried about limited editions. What if they released a similar looking watch, with a slight tweak?

You don't have to worry, they definitely will!

 By: Fastwong : October 7th, 2021-01:07
It's funny but if the limited edition is successful, then it's likely there will be future similar releases stepping on it's toes but if the limited edition is a bust then it will be truly limited. 😉

My EXCLUSIVE Answer! Must See!!!

 By: enjoythemusic : October 6th, 2021-16:05
As a self-important extreme enthusiast of ___insert topic here_____ whose words should be assumed to be of higher importance than a lesser worded post, my exclusive reply holds far more weight than any other reply to this thread. You heard it here, exclus... 

Yes indeed it is

 By: Cookies : October 6th, 2021-20:57
The customer is not dumb. They seem to think we customers are dumb and loyal to the end, even when they can turn their backs on us. Reminds me of the Can of Worms Panerai too, which Perezscope highlighted.

The advantage of being a Purist...

 By: VinnieD : October 6th, 2021-16:09
is that you start avoiding these (un)limited editions and look for real character in vintage pieces, or real limited editions from independents

I must change my ways

 By: Cookies : October 6th, 2021-20:53
No more buying Grand Seiko or trust in their words that pieces are Country Exclusives. Actually to come think of it, I was silly to believe it was “exclusive” because these pieces could be bought online and shipped, even in the earlier days of their relea... 

I just went to the article and personally, I think this is very bad.

 By: Clueless_Collector : October 6th, 2021-16:36
It is really an integrity issue if watches were previously defined for their purpose. I admire GS but has been hesitant to add any because of their endless yearly celebrations and limited editions....I know I'm guilty because I like Omega limited editions... 

Imagine Omega releases those

 By: Cookies : October 6th, 2021-20:55
Those country exclusive seamasters (Moscow edition, Singapore edition etc) only available at boutiques in that selected country, to the whole world. They will never do this I am sure. Because reputation is important to them. But GS doesn’t honour their wo... 

They actually did...there are certain boutique Seamaster models for NY, Paris, Singapore etc.

 By: Clueless_Collector : October 6th, 2021-20:59
This works for tourist who visits a certain country and get surprise to buy a nice souvenir.

Imagine finding the Paris version in your local boutique

 By: Cookies : October 6th, 2021-21:03
The tourist buying it will feel cheated. It was supposed to be a special moment and it ended up a duped moment. But not saying Omega will do this. I believe they will never stoop to such levels. I hope so.

This is my LE post in this thread.

 By: Spangles - Dr. Tabby : October 6th, 2021-19:57
Also: Is Grand Seiko really that "grand". Maybe it should be Pretty Good Seiko and have a dog rather than a tiger.

Yes, i bought something wrong

 By: Cookies : October 6th, 2021-20:56
Looking at it now, it is a big regret. To buy an exotic dog; only to find it is not an exotic dog.

OK, I have to put a Moderator's viewpoint on exclusive GS models

 By: cazalea : October 6th, 2021-22:12
As so many have noted, this problem is not EXCLUSIVE to Grand Seiko. Nor is it exclusive to the watch industry ... there are plenty of other marketeers doing the same thing. But in many ways I think this exemplifies the very great difference in thinking b...  

Well said Cazelea

 By: Cookies : October 7th, 2021-12:41
They make nice watches. They perfected the dial and case and hands. I have great things to say about the watch itself and the hands who made it.

My guess is that they didn’t sell out in the US so…

 By: kkochheiser : October 7th, 2021-03:10
They had to move them elsewhere. Maybe next time they won’t make so many “Exclusive” dials. Kent

I hope they stop this practice

 By: Cookies : October 7th, 2021-12:42
It betrays trust. Japanese are known for their trustworthiness.

Here we go again: Seiko Introduces Three U.S. *Exclusive* Prospex Special Edition

 By: India Whiskey Charlie : October 8th, 2021-18:01
Photo: Hodinkee ...  

Yea right

 By: Cookies : October 8th, 2021-19:28
Take it with a pinch of salt. They’re gonna flood other markets with these too


 By: jml_watches : October 10th, 2021-07:38
Hi I get your frustration at how the game was changed. The flip side is the frustration of not being able to get a limited edition or region specific watch. I think this has been a long time coming & there have to a certain extent been ways around it - es... 

Indeed, the exclusivity doesn’t hold weight

 By: Cookies : October 10th, 2021-07:49
Nevermind about this experience. I guess I’m better off without these feelings of being let down.

Sorry, but I find your point completely exaggerated.

 By: cayenne1200 : October 11th, 2021-09:11
If GS has sold a series of models „exclusively in the US“ this has nothing to do with „limited“. The US is a very big market and hundreds or thousands of these watches were sold without limitation. Considering this, it is nothing bad if such models can no... 

Sorry I disagree with u too

 By: Cookies : October 11th, 2021-10:40
Exclusive mean exclusive. They did not say this is a limited series. They marketed it as a US exclusive and this is a unique selling point.

U have a nice collection btw

 By: Cookies : October 12th, 2021-15:44
I saw some Pateks and other good pieces in your collection. Have a good day.