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6542 gmt

OK, I didn't know the term 'newbie' was bad.
I have been interested in Rolex for a long time. Ive never used the forums. I have read, researched and learned what I can about the watches I am interested.
I clarified the term several time. I am not new to watches, or even Rolex. I am new to the serious dissections and tiny details of radium Rolex.
The first Rolex I ever bought was a 1967 5512 sub. I obsessed over matte dial 5513's and this came up from a trusted shop and I decided to research that.
I research based on specific targets, I have never had an opportunity or reason to dive into any watch before 1967. I have read articles and mentions of GMT's and 6542's. I know of them and some details, but I cannot distinguish a mk 1 dial from a mk 2 dial without lots of comparison and even then I am not familiar.
Was I rude to anyone until the final post? I dont think so, but maybe someone took something the wrong way? I just tried to be forthcoming and post new information when I received it.
I never told someone they were wrong, I never even made a concrete decision on what I believe I am looking at.
The fact that I continued to ask questions and I even posted this watch to a few different forums seemed to really make some people angry. I really did appreciate the information and I took it all to heart.
But because I didnt immediately take someones word on this and I continued to ask questions, people assumed I was pushy or defensive when I really tried to stay impartial until more information was available.
Please go back, re-read what I said. Please show me how I was rude before my last post. I thanked everyone, I acknowledged the posts I could... I actually learned a lot. But because I felt the need to push deeper, some people got offended. And when people are DM'ing me, telling me I am stupid and that I need to shut up and stop asking questions and stop posting, I will not tolerate that.
Look at how those members responded to ME. I asked another question and I get responses like "why are you even considering this, the experts spoke, stop asking questions." That is so enraging that I would rather get banned than sit there and be told to just take the word of someone I, personally, do not know.
You can believe what you want. I have not spent a single penny on this and, as much as you can't believe it, I just wanted to learn as much as I could. I dont need time to digest someone on a forum telling me they think its fake. I want consensus. I want multiple opinions. Why? Because I have a responsibility to give accurate information about this watch to the people that trust me.
If I posted one thread on one forum and took the first 3 responses as gospel, am I doing my due diligence? If I tell these people the watch is worthless, but it turns out the movement is real and the throw out thousands of dollars, are you going to reimburse them?
I understand the skepticism, but you need to understand that I am a real person. I am a watch lover. I am passionate about these watches. I have to learn somewhere. Not everything goes exactly the way you think it should...
Ill say it again, if you actively discourage people from seeking education and information, you are not doing them a favor. Telling me some folks are reputable and sharing information you have is constructive. Telling people to stop questioning "authority" and just fall in line is a dangerous way of thinking and it discourages growth, learning and potential discovery of new things.
Someone said I am looking for "something for nothing." My entire reason for talking to the person with this watch was to help ensure they dont get ripped off, in the off chance it was real. I pride myself in paying a fair price for family treasures and it has earned me a reputation that I care about. I know a guy who paid $500 for a big red daytona and bragged about ripping the old lady off. That type of stuff disgusts me so any time I can help prevent that, I do, free of charge, because I enjoy it.
I didnt show up to a party and start insulting people. I came to a forum, humbly asking for information and what I wanted to further my knowledge, I was told that I am doing something wrong. Only after I was told that I shouldn't ask more questions and I shouldn't seek other sources, I voice my opinion on that way of thinking and left. If that is how knowledge is gained and shared at that forum, I don't want a part of it.
This has nothing to do with the consensus that the watch is sketchy, it has everything to do with the arrogance the the active dissuasion of learning.

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