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Is this a Unique Version of the Tudor Oyster Sub-Mariner 7923?
Given some of the very interesting and informative previous threads
that I have found on this Board regarding the Tudor Submariner 7923, I
thought people might be interested to see what I think might be a unique
version of the Tudor Oyster SubMariner 7923.
A picture of the watch is below and you can also see another image of the watch on the following instagram page:
I believe this watch to be unique beacuse of 1) the dial and 2) the hands.
The Dial
According to the Tudor website, the 7923 did not feature the water-resistance depth on the dial, and yet the dial of this watch does. This does not appear to be unique in itself, because the 7923 that sold for $100,000 on ebay in 2017 also featured the depth on the dial, but this was in red lettering, whereas on this watch, the depth is given in the same colour of lettering as the rest of the dial.
The Dial
According to the Tudor website, the 7923 did not feature the water-resistance depth on the dial, and yet the dial of this watch does. This does not appear to be unique in itself, because the 7923 that sold for $100,000 on ebay in 2017 also featured the depth on the dial, but this was in red lettering, whereas on this watch, the depth is given in the same colour of lettering as the rest of the dial.
Details of the $100,000 ebay watch can be found here:
A previous thread on this website said that there were only 2 versions of the 7923 dial - one without the depth and one with the depth in red. But this appears to be a third variety.
That thread can be found here:
The Hands
According to the Tudor website, the 7923 was meant to be equipped with "baton-style" hands but the hands on this watch are of the style found in the 7922 or 7924.
Here is a picture of the Tudor 7923 from the Tudor website for comparison:
So this then leads to the question: is this watch really a 7923 or could it be another model of sub-mariner (e.g. 7922 or 7924)?
So all this leads me to believe that this might, in my more-than-amateur opinion, be a unique Tudor Oyster Submariner 7923, of which I am unable to find any previous documented descriptions or photos.
I am very much looking forward to see what happens with it at auction!
I would say that it definitely is a 7923 because:
1. It says 7923 on the back of the case.
1. It says 7923 on the back of the case.
2. The serial number is the one immediately previous to the 7923 that sold on Ebay for $100,000.
3. It says "shock-resisting" on the dial. This was not present on the 7922, 7924 or later tudor sub-mariners.
4. It says "oyster" and not "oyster-prince" on the dial - which was only a feature of the 7923.
5. It doesn't say "rotor, self-winding" on the dial which was a feature
of all sub-mariners apart from the 7923. The 7923 was the only
manually-wound Tudor sub-mariner.
6. It doesn't have any minute intervals marked on the bezel - these were only absent on the 7923.
So all this leads me to believe that this might, in my more-than-amateur opinion, be a unique Tudor Oyster Submariner 7923, of which I am unable to find any previous documented descriptions or photos.
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Is this a Unique Version of the Tudor Oyster Sub-Mariner 7923?
Given some of the very interesting and informative previous threads that I have found on this Board regarding the Tudor Submariner 7923, I thought people might be interested to see what I think might be a unique version of the Tudor Oyster SubMariner 7923...
Thank you for this. With regards the dial and the hands...
The hands definitely aren't typical of the 7923 - but this is exactly what is making me think it is a unique version of the watch, possibly a prototype? Because the serial number is previous to the $100,000 ebay watch, then this watch must have been made ...
Meaning a lot of shenanigans go on with vintage pieces, in particular the dial
People adding text here, removing it there. A lot of forgery goes on to potentially add thousands or tens of thousands to the value of the watch. If your Grandfather was the original owner, then past down later to your Dad, you are probably in good shape....
My dad doesn't own an auction house - I wish he did! [nt]
It is his watch though, which is why I have become so interested in it and want to find out if this long-time family watch really is a unique 7923. I also thought that if it was a unique 7923 that people on here would want to know about it given the rarit...
My apology in that I (mis)read your first post, "My dad is selling his" with a link to the sale -- it certainly implied that your father owns the watch and not the auction house!
The substance of my comment however remains, as I cannot like the timing of a thread that advertises and discusses in detail a watch up for sale only 3 weeks later --- whether you own the watch or the auction house selling it. For optical reasons, I would...
Thank you for this...
Firstly, let me assure you that this watch is genuine. It was left to my dad in 1983 by my grandad and had previously been left to him by his brother. I never thought for a moment that anyone on here would think this watch was fake and am mortified that t...
I have found another 7923 with the same hands, dial and movement.
It sold at auction in 2015: www.the-saleroom.com
Sorry, the dials are not the same.
I did see the triangle eating into the rose because it was mentioned in this article: But I thought the text on the dials were the same. However, I've just realised that the text is not presented in the same order. My dad's is shock-resisting - depth - s...
