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A letter From Rolex Suisse about Blueberry Insert

 
 By: americano : November 30th, 2019-02:43
In the letter Rolex Geneva denies the excistence of the blueberry insert . I never believed in blueberry insert. I studied auction catalogs from the big 4 auction houses they where first spinned as coming from Cartier around 2004 and from Tiffanys. later ...  

Your welcome

 
 By: americano : November 30th, 2019-02:54
Your welcome

to you ! [nt]

 
 By: americano : November 30th, 2019-02:58

If you want some context I will sent thw full convo.

 
 By: americano : November 30th, 2019-03:06
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Thank you

 
 By: batholith : November 30th, 2019-03:07
for this information. Very helpful, indeed.

Your welcome [nt]

 
 By: americano : November 30th, 2019-03:15

Blueberry insert, all red GMT hand...

 
 By: 中野れい : November 30th, 2019-03:19
Just to make them 'special' (therefore, expensive) These are nothing more than franken GMT Masters? Also, I really wonder if 'fresh from factory' Subs/GMTs are real or another franken? Thanks for the info, Nicolas!

This is an organized maffia

 
 By: americano : November 30th, 2019-03:41
If you trace the historiy of who sold most blueberry inserts , are some todays big dealers if you also realize they are organized , that they endorse each others junk , that they have blogs who spin fake stories . And with al the earnings they made sellin... 

Vintage Rolex is a very big business

 
 By: 中野れい : November 30th, 2019-08:50
And collectors seem willing to pay a lot nowadays (rare! Will go up in price --> investment), so they got screwed 😝 Thanks for your view

:))) [nt]

 
 By: amanico : November 30th, 2019-09:21

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 By: Nono01 : November 30th, 2019-05:55
Can anyone translate the OP's letter? Tnx

I’ve followed some of this debate from afar.

 
 By: Jay (Eire) : November 30th, 2019-06:22
I always thought it would be extremely unlikely for Rolex to comment directly, officially. For those of you who are vintage Rolex collectors how unusual is it for Rolex to provide this letter? If it’s very unusual, then why would they do it in this instan... 

The comment made by Rolex, they disputes that they have ever produced a GMT 1675 with an all blue insert.

 
 By: Bill : November 30th, 2019-09:49
I have also never seen any official Rolex catalog that shows such a watch. Now as far as special orders I have no idea how these are done so it could be produced out side Rolex?

I wonder about the UAE Air Force story...

 
 By: CR : November 30th, 2019-07:08
I don't follow the question of Rolex bezel insert authenticity too closely, but I do recall (from a debate elsewhere about the "blueberry" authenticity) that Rolex may have made at least a small batch of all-blue 1675 inserts for watches that were sold to... 

Never Trust Auction Houses

 
 By: patrick_y : November 30th, 2019-07:45
Their experts are capable of making mistakes and frankly auction houses make up terms to explain anomalies that are sometimes modifications. Paraphrasing, "I'm pleased to present an exceptionally rare version Mark 2.5 of this rare watch." They're exceptio... 

Some Rolex Blueberry pictures for context. And some facts.

 
 By: Bill : November 30th, 2019-08:28
I had one a long time ago. There was always rumors about cartier having these and mysteriously would show up. But then the correct combination was having a full red hand which it self is controversial. So putting the controversies together. Also there was...  

Picture from the web allegedly to be from P.

 
 By: Bill : November 30th, 2019-09:58
Rolex Blueberry insert heaven ...  

Dissapointing in many ways [nt]

 
 By: americano : November 30th, 2019-10:15

So what now for those dealers who lent credibility to this blue insert?

 
 By: Jay (Eire) : November 30th, 2019-12:03
Without the support of the knowledge base (so many rely on dealers as the knowledge base) these inserts presumably would never have gained traction like they did. I know there were many skeptics out there who for a long time were vocal about these inserts... 

This is not about collecting anymore

 
 By: americano : November 30th, 2019-13:57
Speaking from point of few from the dealers side this is about greed. There are clearly a group of malicious dealers who work in organized matter , endorse each others frankwatches online , sell fake spare parts . . Even when blueberry came into the limel... 

Indeed Bill. [nt]

 
 By: Jay (Eire) : November 30th, 2019-13:57

You remember the episode when an ig post claimed no geiger reading on a sub.

 
 By: Bill : November 30th, 2019-14:18
That blew up for the seller. But apparently later was vindicated.

It was on a Rolex 6200. [nt]

 
 By: amanico : November 30th, 2019-14:19

We all remember that story. [nt]

 
 By: Bill : November 30th, 2019-14:20
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Very interesting. Please share more details...

 
 By: traineract : November 30th, 2019-20:15
And when the information can be further verified. I was reminded of a lot of the work done by perezscope for panerai while reading this. Glad to have people like perezscope to offer a well researched and balanced view to the marketing info from panerai n ... 

Thank you Purist experts and passionate collector

 
 By: Gelato Monster : December 1st, 2019-03:29
You guys are our guardian angel.

Blue GMT insert never made by Rolex. In the same way many PN dials were not.

 
 By: Miles_151 : December 1st, 2019-03:50
I’m sure made by the same people in Europe who are now sat on their Yachts having a right old laugh. M.

Touché ! [nt]

 
 By: Bill : December 13th, 2019-02:41

Not good...!

 
 By: RicardetCie : December 10th, 2019-08:52
Thanks for sharing.