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some SERIOUS Tudor bronze complaints

 
 By: Bruno.M1 : August 29th, 2017-09:29
I posted this already on instagram via ' @collectible_watches' but they didn't feel the need to answer or explain anything :-( I know Patek monitors this site so I hope Rolex / Tudor does the same About a year ago I bought the Black Bay bronze. Not my fir...  

I figured the case would get patinated...

 
 By: KMII : August 29th, 2017-09:35
But not the bezel - and not in that fashion. Thanks for sharing!

Sorry to hear that. This was a watch I almost decided to be my first Bronze watch....

 
 By: Clueless_Collector : August 29th, 2017-09:35
if only Lady Gaga or Beckham can come to the rescue ... Good luck and I hope they fix the issue. Thanks for bringing this awareness up. Rgds Raymond

ok, ready for a horror picture ? .........

 
 By: Bruno.M1 : August 29th, 2017-10:05
this is not my watch nor picture but like told, one I received after the instagram post The watch belongs to a guy that surfs often in the Mediterranean Sea ( just got his permission to post this one too ) ...  

What the f... !!! 😳

 
 By: Alkiro1 : August 29th, 2017-10:09
It's almost destroyed. Best wishes Alkiro

Ooouuuuuch!!!! [nt]

 
 By: amanico : August 29th, 2017-10:16

That will give me nightmares.

 
 By: zabreg1 Mr White : August 29th, 2017-12:22
Wow, I never expected something like this from Tudor.

Oh, this hurts... [nt]

 
 By: sleepy_templar : August 29th, 2017-13:43

That is horrifying...

 
 By: willski : August 29th, 2017-14:02
Almost hard to believe...

Wow Bruno this is insane!

 
 By: Makilla : August 31st, 2017-03:31
Looks like a virus attached the bezel and started eating it out!

OMG! [nt]

 
 By: travelller : September 6th, 2017-17:37

Sorry to hear that and I hope Tudor will fix and solve this problem soon 🤞

 
 By: Alkiro1 : August 29th, 2017-10:07
That's incredible because it's not just a stain (or may be at the beginning) but it clearly eats the matter. I really understand why you're so angry with Tudor after so many return trips. Best wishes Alkiro

Sorry to hear about your problem

 
 By: Poky : August 29th, 2017-10:18
It must be the corroding (some people call it patina, it is corrosion!) bronze underneath the disc which is affecting the disc. I don't mean to add insult to your injury but bronze is not a corrosion resistant metal. It is fine with water but anything aci... 

imo it IS the problem of the manufacturer

 
 By: Bruno.M1 : August 29th, 2017-10:44
why is Tudor the only one that uses an aluminium (?) inlay ? If it would have been ceramic there wouldn't be a problem, or no inlay but a solid bronze bezel ( Panerai, Oris, ...) We know bronze oxidizes or erodes ( what is the english word for it) ... get... 

On the flip side, if they stop selling, yours will potentially be a collectors item! Just like mis-print stamps or currency notes.

 
 By: Clueless_Collector : August 29th, 2017-10:52
Maybe I should be getting one before they change it out, hmmm???

You have a point there

 
 By: Poky : August 29th, 2017-11:00
The problem is that the manufacturer will only change yours to ceramic if they decide to do that for the rest of them. I doubt Tudor will do that. Let us know what happens.

If the inlay is made of aluminium, then my theory suggests it is Galvanic Corrosion

 
 By: skyeriding : August 29th, 2017-10:45
Which, in more layman terms, means that if you have two different metals physically touching/connected via e.g. salt water especially, one of the pair of metals will start rapidly corroding. A pure bronze watch, or a pure aluminium watch will not corrode... 

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 By: amblin_xi : August 29th, 2017-13:06
Yes, you are correct, this is the perfect example of a galvanic corrosion in progress. Aluminum by itself had excellent anti corrosion properties because a thin oxidation layer will rapidly form , adhere to the parent metal and stop any further corrosion ... 

Thanks for these explanation gents.

 
 By: willski : August 29th, 2017-14:30
It does seem to be a genuine design flaw, and one which seems easily avoidable...

Would washing it in fresh water after a salt water dive help?

 
 By: pjbocean : August 29th, 2017-13:09
I also agree that this original bezel may turn out to me desirable in the future because of the flaw-- geez maybe it will be preferred with the holes in it much like a faded color bezel is, lol

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 By: amblin_xi : August 29th, 2017-13:45
No, it's the fight of two metals and aluminum will always be the victim. Salt water could be a catalyst but not the main reason behind the problem.. And after all, why would one dive with a bronze watch anyway? Nasty green rust spots will happen especiall... 

I wonder just how much Aluminium Tudor added to their Bronze ? Marine Bronze or Aluminium Bronze is far more suitable to withstanding saltwater submersion than standard Bronzes

 
 By: templetowers : August 29th, 2017-14:35
containing just tin & zinc, and I believe Tudor added aluminium to control the patina - How much was added would be the question I would like to know !

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 By: amblin_xi : August 29th, 2017-16:39
Not sure, I've not seen the particular watch in person, but judging by the gold tone in pictures and typical basic requirements of a watch case , I'd say it's most likely be the CuAl10Fe3. Al content is 8.5%-11% , this particular alloy can offer good stre... 

too bad I didn't see this earlier

 
 By: jayeyedoubleemmwhy : August 29th, 2017-17:04
the Tudor rep was at my AD yesterday, so I totally could've asked about this. next time!

You have got my attention = stopped my purchasing plans

 
 By: kolosstt : August 29th, 2017-22:13
I had the Tudor Bucherer edition on my wrist and really could have been an owner by now. Some changes in personal life made me delay the acquisition. However, getting this eye opener with your post, I will certainly not proceed with any of these plans. Wh... 

Wow! I can't believe it.

 
 By: masterspiece : August 29th, 2017-22:37
After reading your post I had to check mine as I've used it as a daily beater for quite sometime. Rain, pool, beach. Mine is still pristine with a lovely patina. It is a total bummer that salt water + bronze=corrosion. I'll definitely be keeping an eye on... 

Shouldn't be hard to replace the bezel since they pop out too easily..

 
 By: Fjan : August 30th, 2017-03:51
Pop out too easily on mine.. ...  

Shame on Tudor, apparently a junior chemist knows this is asking for trouble

 
 By: Maltie : August 30th, 2017-05:59
I'm sure the AD's will pressure Tudor for a solution as they will be getting many pieces in for bezel replacements. So we might expect a ceramic bezel version in the future.

You will get a reply via Lady Gaga.....

 
 By: Hororgasm : August 30th, 2017-12:30
Sorry to hear about your woes. Mine is holding up very well, but then again, I have worn it probably 5 times since I bought it. Thanks for the share. Best, Horo

This is totally unacceptable!

 
 By: Makilla : August 31st, 2017-03:37
its not about how many times they need to change the Inlay but Solve the problem instead. This is really horrible! I doubt it's Alluminum because Rolex and other watches used Alluminum inlays for decades and never had this problem. I think it's a differen... 

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 By: amblin_xi : August 31st, 2017-04:42
Yes, aluminum bezel inlay has been around for ages, but not in a bronze+aluminum combination.

and 2 years later ...

 
 By: Bruno.M1 : March 30th, 2019-00:12
they show us a new one at Basel 2019 ... with the same bezel inlay material ? A big Tudor fan but SO disappointed ... when will someone at Tudor stand up and solve this problem or will they keep ignoring it ?