I know it's a terrible answer, but it's a draw for me

Dec 15, 2018,00:31 AM
 

I'd love a steel Patek, even over list price. But the Rolexes have much more interesting complications (I love dual times).

If it was the 5990, it would be a clear winner for me but otherwise the Patek wins the style/quality battle while Rolex gets the functionality and variety award.

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A PuristSPro friend suggest we take this poll....

 
 By: Clueless_Collector : December 14th, 2018-16:45
This is fact...these 4 Rollie’s retail is equivalent to ONE preowned 5711/1A or 5712/1A or 5726/1A, amazing right? I understand different people’s taste and preferences but imo, the watches in comparison each have their huge support of fans and high deman...  

5712A [nt]

 
 By: Peter : December 14th, 2018-16:50

PP 1: Rolexes 0

 
 By: Clueless_Collector : December 14th, 2018-16:52
Thank you πŸ™πŸ»

Quality over quantity, this is not even close

 
 By: alphabeta81 : December 14th, 2018-16:53
5711 by a million miles

PP 2: Rolexes 0

 
 By: Clueless_Collector : December 14th, 2018-16:55
We can save the Quality discussion some other day but fair enough. Thank you 😊

That is a really hard comparison. You have to remove the value equation in todays market.

 
 By: Bill : December 14th, 2018-16:55
Back in the day the 5711/1A was a little more reasonably priced. I love Rolex but the Patek Nautilus range is totally cool. Look this two that both work great. Your Rolex selection/set is awesome. Soory I am no help - picking favorite kids is tough. ...  

Times really change but I will count this - PP 3: Rolexes 1

 
 By: Clueless_Collector : December 14th, 2018-16:58
Thanks Bill, it’s a different world in vintage or discontinued models. Good thing I’m just limiting to current modern selections. You have 2 winners on your wrists πŸ‘πŸ»πŸ‘πŸ»

Rolex all day long! [nt]

 
 By: aperna : December 15th, 2018-05:45

I will add your input below. Thank you [nt]

 
 By: Clueless_Collector : December 15th, 2018-09:30

The 4 Rolex for me with no hesitation against 1 patek

 
 By: Watch_kha_wen : December 15th, 2018-09:16
I would have gone for PP if it was not a nautilus (yes I know blasphemy!) Kev

Yah I know

 
 By: Watch_kha_wen : December 15th, 2018-10:38
I tried it on and was a bit disappointed but I think it’s because I saw so many people talking about it that I kinda imagined something Even better. Don’t get me wrong it’s a nice piece but I prefer the Rolex. Especially the root beer that I would really ... 

Rolex for me

 
 By: MTR : December 15th, 2018-14:49
Best, Thomas

PP 4: Rolexes 1

 
 By: Clueless_Collector : December 14th, 2018-17:01
I knew this will be your answer Fab 😊, devoted PP fan.

PP 5: Rolexes 1

 
 By: Clueless_Collector : December 14th, 2018-17:17
I'm not selling or or trying to trade these for a PP Thank you.

Based on your parameters...

 
 By: Horologically_minded : December 14th, 2018-17:23
Definitely the Patek. But I would argue that it's pretty tough to find these Rolex sport models at retail these days, at least in Asia. You will probably have to pay a premium for a BNIB. J

PP 6: Rolexes 1

 
 By: Clueless_Collector : December 14th, 2018-18:00
All the Nautilus and these Rolexes are tough to find and have to pay premium. Thank you.

PP 7: Rolexes 1

 
 By: Clueless_Collector : December 14th, 2018-18:01
I told him this is what I expected 😬. Thank you.

Rolex Rolex Rolex Rolex

 
 By: Jay (Eire) : December 14th, 2018-17:24
As an owner of some of the PP you note, but not of any of these specific Rolex (but similar ones), I will say in this or similar cases then 4 always wins over 1.

PP 7: Rolexes 2

 
 By: Clueless_Collector : December 14th, 2018-18:07
But wait....you have some PP but not these Rolexes, so your answers biased? πŸ˜‚ Anyway, I’m counting...Thank you πŸ™πŸ»

No recount, haha πŸ˜† [nt]

 
 By: Clueless_Collector : December 15th, 2018-09:34

Rolex set trumps PP [nt]

 
 By: Euroasianstar : December 14th, 2018-18:06

PP 7: Rolexes 3

 
 By: Clueless_Collector : December 14th, 2018-18:11
Thank you πŸ‘πŸ»

Rolex [nt]

 
 By: SALMANPK : December 14th, 2018-18:24

PP 7: Rolexes 4

 
 By: Clueless_Collector : December 14th, 2018-19:14
Thank you πŸ™πŸ»

PP 7: Rolexes 5

 
 By: Clueless_Collector : December 14th, 2018-19:15
A nose or tongue is also a win in horse races 🀣. Thank you.

PP 7: Rolexes 6

 
 By: Clueless_Collector : December 14th, 2018-19:22
That’s an honor to identify these as dream pieces πŸ™πŸ» Thank you 😊

Rolex....

 
 By: S F : December 14th, 2018-19:17
Personal preference. Any one of the 4 would work for me actually.

PP 7: Rolexes 7

 
 By: Clueless_Collector : December 14th, 2018-19:23
There’s a Rolex for everyone, that’s why they are so successful. Thank you πŸ™πŸ»

depends

 
 By: aston.db4 : December 14th, 2018-20:24
If you get bored of Rolex, it's natural to wander off to other brands like Patek, AP, RM, etc. Based upon "retail pricing", Rolex wins hands down, UNLESS the watch is a ref. 5711/5712. If you want street value, I would say none of the above -> sell all ->... 

PP 7: Rolexes 7 - no change

 
 By: Clueless_Collector : December 14th, 2018-21:24
Thank you for your input. We can also come to involve FPJ in future

Wow surprised by the responses. These 4 Rolex’s by far.

 
 By: emcquillan : December 14th, 2018-20:46
Having owned or currently own most of your options I can say I value (not money but enjoy) my date sub as much as my Nauty. The 5711A is nice, but is not worth the fuss and I strongly feel in a bubble. Whose to say the ceramic panda Daytona doesn’t reach ... 

PP 7: Rolexes 7 - no change again

 
 By: Clueless_Collector : December 14th, 2018-21:35
I see your point, it's hard to say what will the future be, we all wish we have a crystal ball and sell our stocks/401k before Oct market correction Last 2 years or so, I saw a pre-owned 3712/1A selling in the 40s, and I felt it was too high....it's 6 dig... 

Must be Rolex...

 
 By: Nicole_S : December 14th, 2018-22:19
because I love the Blnr

PP 7: Rolexes 8

 
 By: Clueless_Collector : December 14th, 2018-22:51
Rumors has it that it will be gone soon, get one if you haven’t...if you have one already, congratulations. Thank you Nicole 😊

Yes, it will be gone sone

 
 By: Nicole_S : December 14th, 2018-23:25
My reatailer in switzerland told me about it. I love my BLNR Nici

Sweet....congratulations again, Nici. [nt]

 
 By: Clueless_Collector : December 14th, 2018-23:27

It is not a rumour,

 
 By: Speedie74 aka Mr. Torquise : December 15th, 2018-01:26
it is already a fact: the BLNR is discontinued!

That is great news to people to own it. Thanks for the info.

 
 By: Clueless_Collector : December 15th, 2018-09:08
I guess we’ll have to wait till the official word next April😊

Knowing that the odds of getting...

 
 By: mahesh : December 14th, 2018-23:32
the 5711 Vs the 4 Rollies are equal I’ll go for Rolex...brings variety that can go for any day for the same money ! 5711 is good but not necessarily something new since it was designed...IMHO. Best, Mahesh.,

PP 7: Rollexes 8

 
 By: Clueless_Collector : December 15th, 2018-09:10
Variety and versatility is a good reason. Thank you πŸ™πŸ»

Rolex

 
 By: Bruno.M1 : December 14th, 2018-23:45
even at list I believe the 5711 is already way too expensive Buying one secondhand.... just crazy Said it before how much cocaine does one have to take to get a secondhand 5711 if you can have a 5170 for the same price??

Couldnt have said it better my friend πŸ€—

 
 By: Watchonthewrists : December 15th, 2018-01:41
The second hand Steel PP is way to overpriced imho . Although i am not a big rolex fan i will pick Rolex πŸ‘πŸ»

PP 7: Rolexes 10

 
 By: Clueless_Collector : December 15th, 2018-09:14
I’m counting this even you reply to 😬 No recount. Thank you πŸ™πŸ»

PP 7: Rolexes 9

 
 By: Clueless_Collector : December 15th, 2018-09:12
I totally get your point, similar brand with higher complications are being β€œneglected” which is good for value hunters or people in the know aka collectors like you. Thank you πŸ™πŸ»

Rolex [nt]

 
 By: Ares501 - Mr Green : December 14th, 2018-23:59

PP 7: Rolexes 11

 
 By: Clueless_Collector : December 15th, 2018-09:15
Howdy Mr Green, glad to see you back. Says the man who loves a President. Thank you 😊

What's not to love ;)

 
 By: Ares501 - Mr Green : December 15th, 2018-11:02
And thanks for welcome Cheers D

I know it's a terrible answer, but it's a draw for me

 
 By: Mr Glass : December 15th, 2018-00:31
I'd love a steel Patek, even over list price. But the Rolexes have much more interesting complications (I love dual times). If it was the 5990, it would be a clear winner for me but otherwise the Patek wins the style/quality battle while Rolex gets the fu... 

PP 8: Rolexes 12

 
 By: Clueless_Collector : December 15th, 2018-09:17
No answer is terrible answer. Valid points you have, life is not easy choice. Thank you πŸ™πŸ»

PP 8: Rolexes 13

 
 By: Clueless_Collector : December 15th, 2018-09:18
Thank you my friend πŸ™πŸ»

It depends on

 
 By: Speedie74 aka Mr. Torquise : December 15th, 2018-01:24
how many sporty watches do you have in your current collection. If β€œonly” this 4, I won’t let them go for the Nautilus. If much more, than maybe, but only if you bought the Rollies for list price... I think the 4 Rolexes have a bit more market value at th... 

PP 9: Rolexes 14

 
 By: Clueless_Collector : December 15th, 2018-09:22
I take that as a toss up so awards to both brands each with their own merits. The range of prices for the models listed are huge, which explains the uncertainty and testing of the supply/demand. I’m assuming if a person can own either, what’s his/her pref... 

Blue SD all day long.

 
 By: Miles_151 : December 15th, 2018-01:41
Don’t even need all 4 just one for me. Followed closely by the Daytona. M.

PP 9: Rolexes 15

 
 By: Clueless_Collector : December 15th, 2018-09:23
There are no SD but since you mentioned Daytona, I assumed you lean towards Rolex 😊 Of course, Mr Daytona. Thank you πŸ™πŸ»

Rolex, no doubt.

 
 By: Pretty Boy : December 15th, 2018-02:51
Best, Volker

PP 9: Rolexes 16

 
 By: Clueless_Collector : December 15th, 2018-09:24
You have both PP and Rolexes so very fair answer. Thank you πŸ™πŸ»

Rolex for sure [nt]

 
 By: Tyo : December 15th, 2018-04:15

PP 9: Rolexes 17

 
 By: Clueless_Collector : December 15th, 2018-09:25
Looks like crowd favorite. Thank you 😊

Rolex all the way!

 
 By: Greenwatch : December 15th, 2018-05:37
Now if it is a Patek Chrono Perpetual, my answer will be different.

PP 9: Rolexes 18

 
 By: Clueless_Collector : December 15th, 2018-09:26
That one is a different league, not sports category. We’ll have to bring in PN Daytona or Rolex calendars for that show down πŸ˜‰ πŸ™πŸ»

Rolex. [nt]

 
 By: VMM : December 15th, 2018-08:06

PP 9: Rolexes 19

 
 By: Clueless_Collector : December 15th, 2018-09:27
Thank you πŸ™πŸ»

rolex...

 
 By: Questlove : December 15th, 2018-08:17
Nautilus doesn't do much for me. If it was a different patek, depending on the model, my answer would be different. but in this case it's rolex..

PP 9: Rolexes 20

 
 By: Clueless_Collector : December 15th, 2018-09:28
I have to set a binding condition here. There is really no right or wrong answer here. Thank you πŸ™πŸ»

Nautilus [nt]

 
 By: Gelato Monster : December 15th, 2018-08:20

PP 10: Rolexes 20

 
 By: Clueless_Collector : December 15th, 2018-09:28
Thank you 😊

PP 10: Rolexes 21

 
 By: Clueless_Collector : December 15th, 2018-09:29
Many would. Thank you 😊

Latest poll: PP 10: Rolexes 23

 
 By: Clueless_Collector : December 15th, 2018-09:33
Adding aperna5549 and Watch_kha_wen’s input in middle of threads

I know, and was surprised what a twist of event...sure it will be fun to rematch....

 
 By: Clueless_Collector : December 15th, 2018-12:11
If you put a PP 5131 cloisonnΓ© or your Specialty Cinque Terre vs 8-10 Rolexes....I’m sure you will win hands down πŸ˜„

:-) [nt]

 
 By: FabR : December 15th, 2018-12:52

PP 10: Rolexes 24

 
 By: Clueless_Collector : December 15th, 2018-11:59
The price range is quite large so average it out will be still almost similar even I use secondary market for the 4 Rolexes. Thank you πŸ™πŸ»

Hello, PP 5712 for me ...

 
 By: leopold : December 15th, 2018-13:15
I love Patek and i love Rolex , but for Rolex i love only vintage watches ...

PP 11: Rolexes 24

 
 By: Clueless_Collector : December 15th, 2018-13:28
Vintage Rolexes are addictive for sure. Thank you 😊

Final tally results - PP 11: Rolexes 25

 
 By: Clueless_Collector : December 15th, 2018-18:48
This is just my takeaway: Both sides are all winners in each of their own class and category. PP is high end luxury brand, a desirable ultimate goal/grail watch by many and probably will wear for special occasions and preciously protecting any damages so ...