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Oct 04, 2020,06:08 AM
 

I couldn’t agree more. Local Rolex dealer could care less about my last 10 purchases.. Bought this beauty online.



Box papers tag 2012 the heck with new. Excellent condition. Thanks all

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Good Bye New. Hello Old.

 
 By: eyyeo : October 4th, 2020-03:33
Pardon my rant on the current situation with new sports Rolex. I have been collecting watches for 23 years, and have never been as taken aback as what I feel recently. I am tired of the supply situation as a watch enthusiast, and I gave up. I like buying ...  

No offence! "The dilema of the rich is, that there are always richer people than themselves" Karl Lagerfeld

 
 By: COUNT DE MONET : October 4th, 2020-04:04
That is how it is, how this world is running. My advice: be content with what you have got and be patient to get what you want. O.K., three are some pieces we will not get, but that should not spoil your love for watches. This hobby is far to exciting for... 

Wise words from The Count ...

 
 By: Cpt Scarlet : October 4th, 2020-04:28
and Carl Labelfeld ;-)) ... “I am a living label. My name is Labelfeld not Lagerfeld”

He certainly was. [nt]

 
 By: Cpt Scarlet : October 4th, 2020-05:03

Ha haha ... [nt]

 
 By: eyyeo : October 4th, 2020-05:16

Yay! 😁 [nt]

 
 By: eyyeo : October 4th, 2020-06:13

This is no rant...

 
 By: Ambiorix : October 4th, 2020-04:10
You are just expressing your feeling , about a hobby, something that could/would bring you joy. But the reality is different. Imho: spéculation is fully killing the game. Btw: i share your feeling. Grtz,Dom

Thank you buddy! [nt]

 
 By: eyyeo : October 4th, 2020-05:18

Agreed

 
 By: CGJ0 : October 4th, 2020-11:01
No message body

Sorrow

 
 By: Weems@8 : October 4th, 2020-04:39
The reality you sketch is how things go. The watch companies do everything to have buyers, but the market is difficult. Buyers and retailers are not always happy with each other. Spending huge amounts on shop interiors, and a customer who want a watch alm... 

I understand you completely

 
 By: Weems@8 : October 4th, 2020-05:30
I follow the market of submariners. No chance to get a submariner for a fair price. So, they can eat them. I go for other watches.

Yes

 
 By: Weems@8 : October 4th, 2020-06:54
Tru. hahahaha 😂😂😂😂😂😂

I will admit your two situation are sad indeed and tend to happen on new watch releases

 
 By: Chronometer (aka yacomino) : October 4th, 2020-05:23
This might be a missed opportunity for the manufacturer because sometime in wanting o create short supply they hurt themselves . One of the few industry where sometime their is too much unbalanced between supply and demand...

...or a brick wall! :-) [nt]

 
 By: Chronometer (aka yacomino) : October 4th, 2020-05:30

All this must be like fishing,

 
 By: Juliusotto : October 4th, 2020-05:32
you don’t get mad with the fish because you didn’t catch it today,sometimes the hunt is more exciting then owning the watch afterwards

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 By: Mikesr  : October 4th, 2020-06:08
I couldn’t agree more. Local Rolex dealer could care less about my last 10 purchases.. Bought this beauty online. Box papers tag 2012 the heck with new. Excellent condition. Thanks all ...  

Whilst I have every sympathy with your feelings.

 
 By: Miles_151 : October 4th, 2020-06:11
I would just like to say that I do also feel sorry if that’s the right word maybe have sympathy with is better with the AD’s who to survive have had to have hundreds of loyal clients to keep their sales up. My AD dreads Rolex or Patek or Omega bringing ou... 

I do agree that ADs are also between a rock and a hard place.

 
 By: eyyeo : October 4th, 2020-06:21
Lucky you that you got most of what you want. True that there is always someone who spend more than you that they have to appease. End of the day businesses exist to solve a customer problem, if one day ADs or even manufacturers do not solve customer prob... 

I’ve been thinking that for well over 20 years.

 
 By: Miles_151 : October 4th, 2020-06:35
Not happened yet. Who knows what the future looks like. M.

Thank you Nicolas!

 
 By: eyyeo : October 4th, 2020-06:53
I have some vintage, but have recently added more 5-digit sports because I cannot buy new. It has been fun. Time may tell that this may be for the better! 😁

that is my strategy as well

 
 By: penfriend : October 4th, 2020-08:09
I usually have 4-5 watches on order which take some time for delivery so I do not care whether it takes one year or more for a watch to arrive - there is always something nice approaching. like a revolving model i guess

Yes! [nt]

 
 By: amanico : October 4th, 2020-11:06

I agree 100%

 
 By: gregcarraram3 : October 4th, 2020-06:48
Sadly they don’t care. They don’t care about loyalty, passion or you or me, or anyone else for that matter. The almighty buck is all that matters. And unfortunately, if you read certain other forums...instead of discussing the hobby and passion...they hav... 

Apologies if I brought much negativity!

 
 By: eyyeo : October 4th, 2020-07:00
Like many here have said, there are other watches to buy. And I have found positivity myself in collecting older watches.

The pursuit is much of the fun, they say....

 
 By: Overwound : October 4th, 2020-07:21
Sometimes. If the pursuit is time spent setting aside money, researching history, specifications or finding the correct specimen this can be very fun. All of the build up leading to a purchase really can heighten the entire experience. When it's educating... 

A little complaining is ok!

 
 By: gregcarraram3 : October 4th, 2020-09:37
And that watch is awesome!!!!

This is the way of things now in our hype driven society

 
 By: Fastwong : October 4th, 2020-10:50
Like lemmings everyone moves from one hot thing to the next and like locusts we descend on a brand, consuming it until we move on to the next green field with the brands getting overwhelmed by success. I gave up on Rolex long ago after pointlessly unpleas... 

Superbly put. Bravo. [nt]

 
 By: amanico : October 4th, 2020-11:44

Since your AD 'salespeople' did not know what you were talking about...

 
 By: Mostel : October 4th, 2020-12:30
my thought is that few to none came in to this AD, and it's better to tell you they were 'allocated' than to admit they got none, which would make them see 'lame'. As we know, generally with very few exceptions, salespeople do not know anything beyond the... 

"Heightened version of the market" - very true!

 
 By: eyyeo : October 4th, 2020-19:37
I still want to avoid buying grey. Much has been written about "How we can all win during COVID-19 if everyone wears a mask" - Prisoners' Dilemma. I think we can say the same about the grey situation now. If everyone stop buying new from grey dealers, we ... 

I understand your point very very well 😔

 
 By: 1WatchMan : October 4th, 2020-13:16
I must reckon that I'm almost there as well. I also understand the AD's position, so I'm not blaming on them. They're simply trying to survive. I've loved watches during my entire life, so I'm afraid that it will never change. But the watch market has cha... 

I like my ADs and bear no hard feeling.

 
 By: eyyeo : October 4th, 2020-19:41
I think they are suffering as much if not more. My experience with direct has not been good too. Boutiques are probably the first to start with "Preferred Clients", online sale of special edition are not friendly to all regions, etc.

I think many will acknowledge the same.

 
 By: Jay (Eire) : October 4th, 2020-17:45
For me, this situation arose in the mid-late 2000’s when I was primarily a Panerai collector. I chased for a while, but not for long. It was a waste of time and energy and was irritating at best. So I went a different direction, which to be honest would l... 

Yes Panerai days! Did that bubble burst!

 
 By: eyyeo : October 4th, 2020-19:44
I still like PAMs and I have recently bought a few LEs for a song.

I share your feeling. Coincidentally, last saturday I went to my AD...

 
 By: hoseachandra : October 4th, 2020-19:11
And left with bad taste in my mouth. I was sending in my IWC alarm GST for service. While there, I was talking with the staff about my interest of new OP 36mm silver dial. I want to put my name in the wait list, no hurry, etc. Unfortunately the discussion... 

Sorry the conversation went that way

 
 By: eyyeo : October 4th, 2020-19:51
It is always going to be an issue if it evolves into a conversation about spend. It is all relative, what is the formula? We should event care about the criteria? Annual spend? CLV? Rapport? Goodwill? This shortage has burnt many customer relations for AD... 

This is of course very disappointing, and it’s something I’ve encountered too.

 
 By: Jay (Eire) : October 7th, 2020-05:18
But like you I just move on. As I mentioned above I’ll leave my name on the list, or multiple lists, and see what happens as there’s no upside in burning that bridge. If you take a wider look at the consumer world these days, almost anything that captures... 

5 digit superior

 
 By: alexxelor : October 5th, 2020-08:51
It stops the story. New ceramics are fake copies

Power! [nt]

 
 By: eyyeo : October 5th, 2020-17:52

Your feelings are entirely understandable. They are also common, at least as far as a few brands are concerned.

 
 By: Rosneathian : October 8th, 2020-01:44
This was one reason why I began to explore other brands, and the journey has been healthy. So, for instance, I've been looking at a Parmigiani Fleurier watch recently (and bought it). This is just an example, and there are plenty of others. Here is a bran...