Which of those two icons do you prefer: PP 5711/1A-010 or AP 15202IP?

May 17, 2018,01:46 AM

If we were talking about 5711/1A-010 vs. 15202ST, which would be a fairer comparison, my choice would be the first one, even though I find that the movement, including rotor, of the Jumbo is better looking. However, the mix of brushed titanium and polished platinum together with the smoked blue dial makes the new 15202IP a clear winner over 5711/1A-010, at least for me (but it’s also much more expensive). What do you think? Best, Volker

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Thanks for your vote, Russ. [nt]

 By: Pretty Boy : May 17th, 2018-03:02
Here’s another pic of 15202IP. ...  


 By: xxcesar : May 17th, 2018-04:10
My take: I lile the design and feel of the PP better, but... This being such a well known piece, the AP scores much higher on enthusiast insider status vs show off. Bottom line: I still go PP Just my 2 cts. C.

Exactly it s like a regular 15202 what was wrongly polished.

 By: Passionata_george : May 17th, 2018-14:55
i think ap is off track a couple of years ago wondering if they ever get back, PP just performs as a champ, i m really happy for them.

I'd choose the 15202st over both the 5711a and the 15202IP

 By: nafetS : May 17th, 2018-03:36
Hardest choice for me would be between 15202st and 5712a. Between 5711a and 15202IP I'd probably Go for the 5711a. Don't Like the bezel of the IP.

I am already served...

 By: amanico : May 17th, 2018-07:15
5402 C Series. ...  

Not Even Close!

 By: Mean Solar Time : May 17th, 2018-04:20
The 5711 by a long way!

5711 for me. [nt]

 By: TonyR : May 17th, 2018-04:53

Thanks, Tony. [nt]

 By: Pretty Boy : May 17th, 2018-04:55

Same father, but 2 different animals

 By: piccolochimico (aka dsgalaxy1) : May 17th, 2018-05:58
One is famous for his sharp edges, the other for his ears. The concept behind is also different, although they're both extra flat "sporty" watches

Absofuckinlutely [nt]

 By: piccolochimico (aka dsgalaxy1) : May 17th, 2018-06:18

15202IP, the market price for both is very close

 By: Joepny : May 17th, 2018-05:59
What I like about the 15202IP: obviously the smoked dial color, the coherence of the date window with the matching color, the courage of AP to have been using titanium for decades, the coolness of the Pt bezel and center links. As someone who has an RO wi... 

Thanks a lot, Joe. Agree regarding the bezel/scratch issue.

 By: Pretty Boy : May 17th, 2018-06:04
Market price is different though. Both go at 20k above list price which is a higher percentage markup on 5711. Availability is also different. Basically no Jumbo IP available on after market due to low output. Of the 250, 100 will be delivered in 2018 and... 

Ok, I thought I saw a few IP for sale on Chrono24 but maybe my confusion

 By: Joepny : May 17th, 2018-06:09
Whatever the case, it makes me happy that people are showing both watches a lot of love, even if more than some demand is hype.

Thanks for your vote. [nt]

 By: Pretty Boy : May 17th, 2018-06:07

5711 [nt]

 By: Blansky : May 17th, 2018-06:34

Thx. [nt]

 By: Pretty Boy : May 17th, 2018-06:41

ROFL!!! [nt]

 By: amanico : May 17th, 2018-09:51

5711 for me.

 By: BMR : May 17th, 2018-07:18
The mirror polished surfaces make the AP a bit too flashy for my own tastes.

Cheers. [nt]

 By: Pretty Boy : May 17th, 2018-09:13

Thanks! [nt]

 By: Pretty Boy : May 17th, 2018-09:22

5711 for me...

 By: Greenwatch : May 17th, 2018-09:36
The 15202 wears bigger, too fragile to wear, too cumbersome to adjust time and date, and too scratch-prone. I got the watch last year and hardly wear it. But love to have it in my collection. 5711 was a revelation, initially not a hard hitting Nautilus co... 

Steel to steel: PP

 By: 5980 : May 17th, 2018-11:17
P to P: still PP 😊

πŸ˜‰ [nt]

 By: 5980 : May 17th, 2018-12:09


 By: dom007 : May 17th, 2018-11:56
On the day, on which the 15202IP was presented I contacted the Boutique for the watch immediately . Now, I am on the waiting list on the position Nr. X. As I have never bought an AP before, my chances will be low that a 15202IP will be allocated to me. If... 

Thanks for your reply.

 By: Pretty Boy : May 17th, 2018-12:22
All 15202IP have already been allocated. Waiting list makes no sense at all. I’m still undecided on 5740G. I tried it on at a PP trunk show in April. It’s nice, great proportions and weight but I find the dial a bit too overloaded. Let’s see.

Cheers, Poky. [nt]

 By: Pretty Boy : May 17th, 2018-13:44


 By: ingo5711 : May 17th, 2018-13:37
We can all "think" that a watch is or is not acceptable size-wise or what Brand or fashionable or in good taste. We can have our thoughts based on what we believe is a set of accepted, pre-set norms. There are contemporary standards, linked to a certain p... 

15202ST is my take among the three

 By: 1WatchMan : May 19th, 2018-00:45
I have it in my wish list, none of the others are.