The agony of choosing a collecting path (5270)

Apr 20, 2021,12:44 PM
 

Hello fellow watch crazies, long time listener etc


I seldom post as I never feel I have much to add to the forums, but really do enjoy reading these and other forums, and as I have been struggling with a collecting dilema I thought this might be the best time to share and get feedback from the community.

I started collecting watches about 15 years ago, I am not a very wealthy man but I am fortunate enough to be able to save enough to buy myself a nice watch or two per year, and have successfully obtained many of my grail pieces . The usual process is find out about a watch I must have, set personal goals and save for a while, buy something nice for the wife, and finally get the watch I wanted. During these years I explored many different brands, bought and traded many watches, and found out I am cursed with have a diverse taste for horology of all types almost. I am the type of collector who can delve into the history of Panerai and enjoy a 47MM PAM127 as much as appreciate a fine Calatrava, hence my current predicament.

I, like many, have fallen in love with the 5270P and its glorious salmon dial. The history of the grand complication, the gorgeous case and overall design, the finishing of the movement, its just an object of desire that has occupied my mind since its release. Unfortunately, also like many, I can't justify just buying the watch outright and would have to release quite a few pieces from my collection before I could go through with the purchase.

So I split my collection into two parts, the first are watches that I absolutely can't bring myself to ever part with, I enjoy these immensely and none of them competes with the 5270 in anyway so no redundancy anyway:






So the Nautilus, ALS Double Split,  FP Journe Cronometre Optimum, IWC Perpetual Calendar in RG, blue Sky Dweller, LE Speedy, PO, JLC Extreme Lab II, PAM 127 and Cali, AP ROO, and the Oris beater are staying put.

I am adding to those the blue Aquanaut in WG, JLC Duometre chrono in platinum with the platinum dial, and the new Cartier Santos skeleton this year for sure and as has been planned and saved for.







Now for the second part of the collection, these watches are fantastic but I could see myself trading them all in plus a bit of cash for the 5270p (question is, should I?)









All are great watches, but I think I would miss the Patek 5170P. Its such a gorgeous watch, and in fact might be more beutifull than the 5270P in absolute terms, the 5270P would add diversity and that gorgeous salmon dial in addition to entry into the elite Patek perpetual calendar chronograph club. Then again each one of these watches has tremendous history and some are rare LE models such as the green Portugueser and ceramic PAM, even the pilot Heritage and LE Seiko Prospex would be missed dearly, so much diverse and wonderfull history and design would have to be sacrificed. 

Then again, that salmon dial\!

And on it goes, my mind ever occupied with the most difficult decision in my modest collecting career and hence my first post in ages, I would very much like to hear the thoughts of fellow collectors especially those who have made the jump to the 5270P.









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Welcome

 
 By: Weems@8 : April 20th, 2021-13:01
Member since 2008 and waited to post for the first time in 2021. Where is the time? ๐Ÿ˜‰ SA, very wealthy place. Super cars, luxury watches, culture, oil. So there are also people who have a normal income. For me it doesnโ€™t matter, poor - rich, as long watch... 

Thank you for the welcome.

 
 By: afaleh : April 20th, 2021-13:26
SA is just like any other place, there are those who have and those who don't. I consider myself fortunate.

They say

 
 By: Weems@8 : April 23rd, 2021-16:28
You are fortunate as we see your collection. The poor i see complain on you tube. They can hardly afford a Oris, while we talk completely normal of buying an AP, Blancpain as we buy butter and cake. Letโ€™s say, i can afford in the 2000 dollar - 5000 dollar... 

Hi

 
 By: Credor : April 20th, 2021-13:17
A magnificent collection you have. It is diverse yet not overly so. It is obvious a lot of though has went into your collection. I absolutely love it. Congratulations on your wonderful collection and great taste. As for the decision that you need to make,... 

Thank you for the compliment

 
 By: afaleh : April 20th, 2021-13:27
yes every watch was chosen carefully and after much contemplation and saving through hard work. They are all dear to me, but then again the 5270P is a true end game watch

Thank you,

 
 By: afaleh : April 20th, 2021-16:04
Yes indeed allot of thought has gone into each piece, no instant purchases hence my current train of thought

if you like 5270p...go for it !

 
 By: mahesh : April 20th, 2021-13:22
Any Patek grand complication is worth it. Best, Mahesh.,

+1 if you like it I agree

 
 By: Chronometer (aka yacomino) : April 20th, 2021-14:12

.. and great timing too..

 
 By: Fjan : April 20th, 2021-13:41
Currently PPโ€™s grand complications such as 5270 are soft and easy to come by due to everyone are after the nautilus. Good luck n keep us posted. Ramadan Kareem ๐ŸŒ™

Thanks

 
 By: afaleh : April 20th, 2021-16:02
And to you as well

"I am not a very wealthy man..."

 
 By: mdg : April 20th, 2021-14:01
Nice collection, but 99.99% of the world would be go differ : )

Not wealthy enough to own these pieces

 
 By: afaleh : April 20th, 2021-16:03
My watch and car collection is worth more than my home and bank account combined! I believe in living life and perusing passions

Don't get me wrong...

 
 By: mdg : April 20th, 2021-16:08
...I have nothing against wealthy people...I'd like to be one, and many would say that I am. But unless you live in a trailer, you are 'wealthy.'

Not sure I can help with your dilemma but for sure go with your hearth. If some of these watches you feel less passionate then sell them and get the one on your mind...

 
 By: Chronometer (aka yacomino) : April 20th, 2021-14:16
I really love the diversity of your collection which would make most watch enthusiast drooling of passion! Thanks for sharing your passion and am pretty sure many of us would love to ear you chime him on any of our thread post here!

Thank you

 
 By: afaleh : April 20th, 2021-16:02
Will do!

Amazing collection.

 
 By: gregcarraram3 : April 20th, 2021-14:16

Welcome to our great forum, and thanks a lot for sharing with us your superb collection and part of your journey into this beautiful world!

 
 By: FabR : April 20th, 2021-14:30
You are facing a very personal decision here, so let me only add to that I hope youโ€™ll find a way to add a 5270 to your collection, since itโ€™s a piece you love so much, *without* losing any of your other most special watches...or else, perhaps, wait a bit... 

Welcome, great post ....

 
 By: Cpt Scarlet : April 20th, 2021-14:37
This is kind of dilemma that hits all collectors at some point on the journey. I think you have a great collection as itโ€™s diverse. Watch collecting should be enjoyable and itโ€™s easy for it to become all about values and safe queens. Make choices that bri... 

Thank you for your thoughts

 
 By: afaleh : April 20th, 2021-16:02
Yep no safe queens here, if I donโ€™t wear a watch I donโ€™t keep it

That is an amazing and respectable collection...

 
 By: Clueless_Collector : April 20th, 2021-14:40
Already the envy of many and I totally understand your position and dilemma. I am currently in the similar situation like you, at a point of my life after also about 15-20 yrs of collecting, only becoming more serious since 2014. My grail watch is also a ... 

Thank you for the welcome

 
 By: afaleh : April 20th, 2021-16:01
Yes I have similar thoughts. A difficult decision but leaning towards consolidating everyday

You already have an amazing collection so the 5270P will only add to that. As a owner of several of your watches I can relate to those being keepers, especially the JLC EL2 (absolutely love this one)...

 
 By: holdemchamp1225 : April 20th, 2021-14:45
I can also recommend the JLC Duometre Chronograph in platinum which is an exceptional piece that is HIGHLY underappreciated and undervalued. As for trading in several pieces to get the 5270P, that is personal preference and only you can make that decision... 

Agreed!

 
 By: afaleh : April 20th, 2021-15:59
Both JLC pieces are extremely underrated and a relative bargain! I would take the EL2 over a RM anyday

Welcome and congrats on a stunning collection๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿป

 
 By: 1WatchMan : April 20th, 2021-15:48
I fully understand you and I find myself thinking similarly from time to time (but from a much more modest position ๐Ÿ˜…). That said and looking at your collection, I would say that it looks like you have the means to acquire the 5270P in the near future, ma... 

Welcome here, Afaleh, and thanks for having the time for the introduction, it is much appreciated.

 
 By: amanico : April 20th, 2021-22:48
I like the diversity of your collection a lot. And I smiled when I read that you liked a Calatrava as much as a PAM 127, because you are right, I think. As well as tool watches versus more refined ones. We love The watch " per se ", for what it is, and it... 

This get my vote for quote of the year. Somewhat abbreviated.

 
 By: Uncle Chico : April 21st, 2021-00:56
"Set a goal, save for a while, buy something nice for the wife, and finally get the watch I want." I suspect you have described a significant number of members on this site.

Hi afaleh, A warm welcome to the Patek forum ! Your collection is great and ...

 
 By: GLau : April 21st, 2021-08:28
eclectic! ๐Ÿ‘ The salmon dial is absolutely delicious ๐Ÿ˜‹ and desirable. Your liking for it is totally understandable. Since you do not like safe queens, you should consider selling off ones that do not get much wrist time. Best of luck in your trade for the ... 

great watches

 
 By: benzng : April 24th, 2021-01:12
I would advise you to sell that are easily replaceable like the Rolex pepsi. Also you should sell those you don't wear anymore. Yes, get the 5270P, IT is a great watch. Btw, I like your style, buy something for the wife then buy the watch happy wife, happ...