Some Quick Facts . . .

Jul 04, 2020,04:01 AM

Wow, thanks for all of the kind words, what a friendly group! Collecting these trays has been a lot of fun and I keep them all right outside my home office, where they inspire daily. One of you asked for some stories -- so please pardon the length of this post but I thought I would oblige.  

The hardest one to find was for 1998 (see photo of tray with floral design)  Not sure why, but it took years and I finally found one in Germany sold by an antique dealer, and used a translator to negotiate the transaction. I paid up front via PayPal and had no idea if the guy would come through, but to my surprise the tray arrived on my doorstep perfectly packaged/wrapped a few weeks after I sent the cash. 

The most valuable one is tough to determine -- because some are so difficult to locate (one or two pop up on eBay every month or so and occasionally a group of them will show up at Christies, Sothenys or the Antiquorum). I believe the one that cost the most for was the small bowel/cover from 2000 (see photo) -- that one garnered a  lot of excitement at the time. My wife knew I wanted it but was too cheap to pay the outrageous perceived premium and gave it to me for Father's Day one year -- as I recall, she found it on eBay somehow and wildly overpaid -- but I am glad she did.  

The treys are arranged in chronological order staring at the top. My favorites are the two most recent at the end -- (The most recent is the one with the continents and the one before that with the dogs.) The back of each trey has a narrative explaining the design's inspiration, derivation, etc. -- each is a very special piece of art (at least to me).

Once I acquired them all, I asked the uncle of a friend, who is a carpenter, to build something for their display and he built the marvelous display shelf, which in and of itself, is extraordinarily solid and very beautiful -- all cherry wood and meticulously crafted specifically for the trays. 

As for the value of the collection  -- it is challenging to put a value on the entire group but alas, the hunt is over, and you all know how that goes. Along those lines, if anyone has a modern Patek in good condition (40mm or higher), I am ready to move on to my next project, and would consider a trade for all 26 treys (not interested in a cash sale).  It would probably have to be for pick up though (I live in Bethesda, Maryland). I guess I could ship them, but I would hate to have any sort of mishap in shipping. It is not a collection that is easily appraised or replaceable. I am also loathe to make a trade with any sort of seller -- only to fellow collector.

Thanks again for all of the nice posts --  most people see the collection and don't really know what to make of it -- but this group obviously understands  and appreciates their significance, which is so nice. I only wish I knew more about them so I could write an article -- I used to write for a watch magazine and would love more information. All I know is that dealers receive them occasionally and pass them along to special buyers. What is so shocking is that I have asked dozens of Patek sales people over the years about them and no one seems to know or really care too much about them.  For instance, the so-called Patek "boutique" in Beverly Hills has one or two on display but when I asked about the ones they had on display, the sales people had no idea what they were about or their history.  When I spoke with Patek, they were extremely complimentary and gracious but also very secretive about their process (what a surprise!) 

 Anyway, thanks again everyone! And please post any other questions you may have -- this forum is a wonderful escape. -- John 

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Patek Limoges Trays -- Origin, history, etc.?

 By: JRSMD : July 3rd, 2020-09:24
I have been collecting Patek Limoges trays for a decade and finally completed the series, each plate from 1997-2019! Am working on article about these unique commemorative artist pieces. I reached out to Patek who were quite polite but really could not te...  

Hi 👋 John, As the Patek moderator, I extend to you a warm welcome to the Patek forum!

 By: GLau : July 3rd, 2020-09:38
Your collection of these plates is amazing ! We look forward to your posts about your Patek watches ! By the way, is that an aquanaut on your wrist ? Gordon

Thanks! [nt]

 By: JRSMD : July 3rd, 2020-10:23
Yes, that is a 5167, originally bought from an AD with a bracelet but I later bought a rubber strap from Patek and have kept that on since.

Thanks again Gordon, please delete all of my posts and cancel my account.

 By: JRSMD : July 5th, 2020-08:59
I have tried to do so on my own but could not figure out how. Thanks again for everything.

Welcome to our great forum, and congrats on an impressive entrance! :-)That is a pretty unique Patek collection to have!

 By: FabR : July 3rd, 2020-09:44
I never looked into their history, but hopefully other friends will be able to give you some more information. Here's my only one from the 2014 anniversary, since I have one of the "corresponding" (wood marquetry) watches. Hope you'll enjoy your time here...  

Welcome, great entry! [nt]

 By: dedestexhes : July 3rd, 2020-09:50

A collection to be proud of!

 By: sham1 : July 3rd, 2020-09:51
Well done on your efforts to assemble this fine collection and thank you for sharing this with us. I have one piece and for me it is so special so to have 23 years worth of trays must give you immense satisfaction.

That's cool! [nt]

 By: patrick_y : July 3rd, 2020-10:18

Great collection. How I wish my ad would give me 1. 😂

 By: geross : July 3rd, 2020-13:53
But that's ok. My dream is to buy a lighter in the Patek saloon in Geneva. 👏 Cheers. 🥃 Geross.


 By: FRAMII : July 3rd, 2020-15:31
I didn’t even know that they had so many different ones.. I have only one which I got as a gift when I bought my wife’s PP. But normally its used for this Not as nicely displayed as you incredible collection 👍👍👍👍👍👍 ...  

Lovely collection!

 By: BigAppleBill : July 3rd, 2020-16:01
Whenever I see these at auction I always wonder about them. How satisfying it is to see a complete collection! Well done!

It's Just Awesome! Please share your story about your collection too...

 By: Pun : July 3rd, 2020-19:39
Warm welcome to this great community of watch lovers. 🥂

Some Quick Facts . . .

 By: JRSMD : July 4th, 2020-04:01
Wow, thanks for all of the kind words, what a friendly group! Collecting these trays has been a lot of fun and I keep them all right outside my home office, where they inspire daily. One of you asked for some stories -- so please pardon the length of this...  

Thanks for your story on this amazing collection ! A trade of the whole collection for a watch must be a...

 By: GLau : July 4th, 2020-04:47
difficult decision. If you are serious about it, please post on the forum "collectors market".

Got it, not quite ready for opening that valve . . .

 By: JRSMD : July 4th, 2020-05:29
and so sorry if I should have posted that notion elsewhere. I am still hoping for some info for an article, and thanks again for f everyone’s interest!

Sorry again

 By: JRSMD : July 5th, 2020-07:57
I just got an email from the moderator of the collectors market and he cancelled my post. I decided to offer the collection in exchange for “one watch.” I thought it would be a fun process and break the monotony. Apparently, I violated the “no Schilling” ... 

The problem here is that you show and share your collection, then a few posts after, you offer to trade it for a Patek...

 By: amanico : July 5th, 2020-08:23
That's against our forum rules. OR you share your collection, OR you post in on our collectors market. But not both.

Had no idea, I did not read the rules -- did not know there even were rules . . .

 By: JRSMD : July 5th, 2020-08:40
I honestly never meant to offend anyone or at all overstep. All I set out to do was to write an article (I used to write for a watch magazine and thought it would be a nice distraction to dig into the history and maybe find some interesting ideas). But ne... 

Again, as I explained via PM, no offense taken. That ad needed to be deleted as we cannot allow an item that was presented on a forum to be immediately advertised for sale/trade on CM.

 By: FabR : July 5th, 2020-08:23
No reason to be frustrated, and nobody got offended. In fact, as I said, if you would like to advertise again this collection for trade in a few months from now, we will be happy to host it on Collectors Market. Hope you have a great rest of the weekend! ... 

Thanks for the further details, a really interesting journey! I do hope you'll write a piece about your collection, and we'll be glad to host it in the Patek forum if you so decide :-)

 By: FabR : July 4th, 2020-07:36
As far as trading something so unique for "just" a watch, I'd probably think about it *very* long before pulling the trigger... I do understand, however, the feeling that comes upon completion of a project, and the desire to somehow move on and find new m...  

I have been there my friend (!)

 By: JRSMD : July 5th, 2020-03:57
Keep checking eBay and the auction houses.


 By: anaroku : July 5th, 2020-04:22
I wish I could get all the magazine. It is wonderful collection. Frami

The oldest are unfortunately the most difficult to find, I believe I have one copy each otherwise I could have given you one since you're so close to completion (if they ever let me go back to Italy, that is! ;-))

 By: FabR : July 5th, 2020-06:42
The problem is they are hard to source even for Patek, since they don't print them anymore. Probably the best bet (save buying them second-hand online) is either to ask Patek directly, or some AD(s) you are in contact with. With some luck, an AD has an ex... 

Wow...great story and nice collection

 By: Patekfinity : July 4th, 2020-09:25
Thank you for sharing your story! Very nice back story on those. I believe these were regularly given to VVIPs from their AD. I know of a Patek collector getting one every year from their AD for Christmas. Nice to see there is a fellow Patek enthusiast ne...