FabR
[Senior Patek Moderator]
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No they cannot tell you: first because they have no clue (even if they are a Patek salon!) how many 5167 they will receive next year or the following ones.
Second, because with the only exception of 4 to 5 people in the entire world (one of them being the head of the *Geneva* Salon, not Paris), nobody knows which references will be in the catalog even in 6 months from now! For instance, this is the time of the year when *a little* more than 5 people (all of them way above the AD level or the Salon staff in Paris, I guarantee you) are informed of which references will be discontinued in 2021. And they have to keep it a secret, of course.
Third and final, waiting lists don't exist, at least in the linear way one would imagine! That is, normally you don't have a guy at number 1 getting the first watch that arrives at the shop, then a guy at number 2 getting the one after, and so on, down to guy number 2394 who will receive an Aquanaut in September 2402.
I can't expect a single AD in the world adopting a system like this -- simply because they would be crazy to run a business this way.
I'm sure at the Paris Salon they've been honest with you and saved your contact information, along with that of hundreds of other people. But my friend, for as long as existing customers ask for a 5167, they are *very* likely to get it first. More than this: if tomorrow someone *totally unknown* buys half of the Calatrava and ladies references in the shop, you can be certain that they WILL get the next 5167 without being on some nonexistent list! ;-)
So given all these variables, how can they tell you (in good faith) when you will receive a 5167, even with a margin of error of 25 years? When I hear of people being told by their AD that they'll receive their watch in, say, 5 to 7 years from now...believe me: 90% of the time, they will *never* even see that watch ;-)
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Patek Philippe 5167
It’s always special or weird to me to post in this forum since I don’t own a Patek Philippe. I’ve been around this watch for years, always think it’s not the good time. My first meet with it was with a business partner whom I mostly get in touch via phone...
Well i wish you a good luck that you are soon going to get it!
I fits your wrist perfect, thats for sure.
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I don't even want to imagine the trouble it would be to serve an ENTIRE nation with just 1 boutique which always puzzles me since the surrounding EU countries have multiple locations and are less populated 🤷♂️🤦♂️ Don't know what else to tell you besides...
+1, exactly Justin, as we've probably said an infinite number of times on this forum ;-)
What I realistically hope will change as far as France goes, is having one or two other Patek ADs, especially now that Wempe Paris is out of the scene... This is obviously not the right time, but after the world reopens, I wouldn't mind to e.g. have one A...
The thing is I don’t live in Paris. I live in a French oversea Department.
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I understand you want this specific piece, and again, there's nothing wrong with expressing an interest with Patek. In fact it's what we all do in one form or another for certain references.
But you've repeated in several Patek threads now that you're not OK with waiting without a timeline, and you seem genuinely bothered by that. So at some point I just hope you'll accept the reality, first and foremost for your happiness sake. As Justin and...
I’m not taking that too seriously in fact I’m surprised you think I’m bothered by that fact
I have many other hobbies and things I collect. I have just received a painting I was expecting for months so it was just a little follow up of my experience with Patek. I don’t have any problem that big collectors get allocations before me. I do have bus...
Ok I get it, let me clarify my thoughts ( English isn’t my first language nor even my second )
From a business prospective because it’s the matter and I’m good with that. Since the game is now to be on waiting list ( I assume it, and maybe I’m wrong ). I mean you can’t just walk in and buy one available. Maybe they just could tell you can have one ...
No they cannot tell you: first because they have no clue (even if they are a Patek salon!) how many 5167 they will receive next year or the following ones.
Second, because with the only exception of 4 to 5 people in the entire world (one of them being the head of the *Geneva* Salon, not Paris), nobody knows which references will be in the catalog even in 6 months from now! For instance, this is the time of t...
No idea why Patek has ONLY 1 point of sale (Place Vendôme) in France 🤷♂️. Makes zero senses to me or others as well...
Has to be something with Patek and France which I clearly do not understand as Italy, Spain, etc...have multiple points of sale (ADs, boutiques, etc...) 🤷♂️🤦♂️ Maybe Fab can enlighten us as I unfortunately have no clue to the reason why 🤔 ...
My dear friend, I can easily understand as I am also fan of the Aquanaut...
I cross fingers you can get it one day… "On n'est jamais à l'abri d'une bonne surprise" is a good motto, always keep hoping I'm sure you will get it one day my friend, cross fingers 🤞🤞 Best, Mike
