I have the 5170p and - although I love it - I think it would be way more in demand if:

Jan 16, 2021,12:15 PM
 

1.) the bezel took up a greater % of the diameter of the watch (ie this is a relatively “thin bezel”)
If you think about the most desirable models - 2499, 5970, 3970 - the bezels (ie the precious metal) on those watches are much wider than the 5170 relative to the total size of the watch (and therefore the dials are relatively smaller). The 2499’s popularity tells us the ideal ratio of bezel to dial is idk 75%/25% vs the 5170 is (I’m making this up) 90%/10%

2.) the bezel was a little more sloped (it wears more “flat”)
Same thing as above - those PCs have much more slope than the 5170


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Patek 5170J

 
 By: carnegie : January 15th, 2021-14:26
Still cannot understand why hasn't 5170J become as desirable as many sports watches. People say, too many were produced, but certainly fewer were produced compared with 5711 or 5167.... ...  

BIG +1 on this 👍

 
 By: holdemchamp1225 : January 15th, 2021-15:22

Regardless of market values

 
 By: keks : January 15th, 2021-15:13
This one is a true beauty, well done and enjoy!!

Regardless of what the market says

 
 By: MTR : January 15th, 2021-17:25
you make your own trend. And you do this extremely well!! A really beautiful watch! Cheers Thomas

Great question!

 
 By: Mostel : January 15th, 2021-17:53
I did not 'love ' this dial when it debuted... But at just a glance a few moments ago, I thought... what is this fabulous Patek? So there is your answer. A few years... big uptick in popularity and value... But if I had to 'explain'... One issue is still,... 

It wears like a dream...it is my favorite kind of gold (J)...

 
 By: mdg : January 15th, 2021-18:11
...but I am not a huge fan of the hands...not much character compared to the leaf version. But still very lovely. It has presence for sure... I am hoping for a yellow gold 5172J with a white/eggshell face.

Consider what is really prized by the general market...

 
 By: BigFatPauli : January 16th, 2021-06:25
Now consider if you would want your watch to part of that same taste and appreciate pool.

Well, entry prices for steel 5711 and 5164 are

 
 By: GLau : January 16th, 2021-08:21
much lower and hence more demand because of affordability. Perhaps 5170 will eventually become more prominent?

I have the 5170p and - although I love it - I think it would be way more in demand if:

 
 By: mattg6 : January 16th, 2021-12:15
1.) the bezel took up a greater % of the diameter of the watch (ie this is a relatively “thin bezel”) If you think about the most desirable models - 2499, 5970, 3970 - the bezels (ie the precious metal) on those watches are much wider than the 5170 relati... 

I think the 5170 is a spectacular piece, especially the G with the pulsation scale and breguet numerals

 
 By: descartes1 : February 9th, 2021-17:45
Honestly I don’t understand why it’s somewhat soft on the secondary market. If I had to guess, I think it’s just because there are so many amazing options at that price point — both haute pieces and sport watches that are widely recognized from Instagram ... 

I stopped worrying about the market a long long time ago.

 
 By: Miles_151 : February 10th, 2021-00:01
My experience over the last 30 years in this hobby is that from time to time watches become so popular without any reason or just deserve. This has been driven on occasions by dealers who have the most to gain financially. Perceived popularity IMO is the ... 

I stopped worrying about the market a long long time ago.

 
 By: Miles_151 : February 10th, 2021-00:02
My experience over the last 30 years in this hobby is that from time to time watches become so popular without any reason or just deserve. This has been driven on occasions by dealers who have the most to gain financially. Perceived popularity IMO is the ...