Nope, never really bought Pateks outside of Italy, including the salons. Here ADs are normally very nice also because it’s in a sense a small community...

Jun 27, 2019,01:03 AM
 

The only thing I temporarily regret is, actually, that I’ve been getting all sorts of gifts, invitations to events, the manufacture, etc. even by a bunch of ADs where I never bought anything (yet)... but I’ll certainly make up for that😉

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PP Gift

 
 By: watch-fan : June 14th, 2019-16:05
There are many PP gifts. What is the best gift that you received from your AD? Could you show us your gifts? For me, I like this watch box the most. Good quailty box. The box provides good protection for my watches. It is very useful than other gifts that...  

With that stunning rare handcraft/limited edition collection, all that comes your way is fully deserved!😀

 
 By: FabR : June 14th, 2019-16:28
Here’s my most recent, small additions to my Patek accessories collection..😉 Cheers ...  

Nice gifts

 
 By: watch-fan : June 14th, 2019-18:53
love your plate. I hope more collectors will show their nice gifts.

Love the box, contents are not bad either. 👍😉

 
 By: russell996 : June 14th, 2019-16:39
This is my favourite Patek trinket, beautiful and useful. ...  

very nice gift

 
 By: watch-fan : June 14th, 2019-18:35
Thank you for showing us the nice tool kit. I do not know about this gift. I will ask for this wonderful gift next time if I am lucky to get it.

Very nice pictures. [nt]

 
 By: watch-fan : June 14th, 2019-19:03

Yours is for the win [nt]

 
 By: Patekphilippecollector : June 15th, 2019-02:55

That tool kit is awesome!

 
 By: Conkers : June 15th, 2019-03:49
I have the AP equivalent. ...  

I would be very careful if I am using a tool to do something on a watch.

 
 By: watch-fan : June 19th, 2019-17:42
Everyone learns from experience. I only change my leather strap. PP watch is expensive. I prefer hand over my watch to PP service center.

are you keeping your watch toolkit at your workplace

 
 By: Watch_kha_wen : June 16th, 2019-23:59
or do you have a bbg terminal at home ? Kev

pretty handy tho

 
 By: Watch_kha_wen : June 19th, 2019-15:56
and obviously pretty cool toolkit my friend, Cheers, Kev

Thanks! [nt]

 
 By: Conkers : June 19th, 2019-17:15

wow

 
 By: anaroku : June 14th, 2019-16:47
fantastic! I wish I could be allowed to become such a customer some day.

Hope your dream will come true soon

 
 By: watch-fan : June 14th, 2019-18:58
I have no gift and limited edition watch 10 years ago.

Great box!

 
 By: InHavenPro : June 14th, 2019-17:49
As practical as it gets . Cheers, Filip

Thank you. [nt]

 
 By: watch-fan : June 14th, 2019-18:58

I spoted eight Patek gifts in your post: "You never pay for a Patek." is the applicable marketing slogan here.

 
 By: COUNT DE MONET : June 14th, 2019-23:00
To me seven watches in your display are gifts. O.k., you have paid for them but the likelyhod to get more than you paid for them is big.

I love all my limited edition watches.

 
 By: watch-fan : June 15th, 2019-07:58
Hope my daughter will not sell them in the future.

From Cartier I received twice a bottle of champaign

 
 By: Geo : June 14th, 2019-23:38
books and a bottle of parfum. Your gifts from Patek are amazing!!! GEO

Show us your golf bag [nt]

 
 By: Patekphilippecollector : June 15th, 2019-01:23

Karlstumke, this is my golf bag

 
 By: watch-fan : June 15th, 2019-07:48
I try to have more rare gift that I do not have before. Other collectors must have more interesting gift. ...  

Fantastic...you definately need the tool

 
 By: Patekphilippecollector : June 15th, 2019-07:58
Maker set that Russel has...did you ever find the screw for your 5161...

Yes

 
 By: watch-fan : June 15th, 2019-08:14
My AD asked PP sent the screw to HK service center. It installed the screw for me. 5160J is one of my favorite watches. ...  

From the attic

 
 By: Patekphilippecollector : June 15th, 2019-02:58
Two large cardboard boxes filled with ties, wallets, briefcases, folio pads travel rolls, pens USB sticks and ties!! ...  

many nice gifts

 
 By: watch-fan : June 15th, 2019-08:00
Hope you can show us more pictures about your gifts.

My humble offering would look like a car

 
 By: Patekphilippecollector : June 15th, 2019-09:39
Boot sale considering what Jamie has bestowed you over the years

It is very hard to get the box

 
 By: watch-fan : June 15th, 2019-15:03
Some of my friends are Salon VIP. They have nice collections, but they can not get the box. I like the box very much. I have no idea how can Jamie get the box for me. My friends like the box very much too. However, I envy my friends have a better collecti... 

Good news

 
 By: watch-fan : June 16th, 2019-17:33
Could you let us know where to buy it?

Good luck.

 
 By: watch-fan : June 16th, 2019-19:16
Please let us know if you get the box. My friends are top salon VIP, but their AD can not get one for them.

I bought it about 2 yrs ago [nt]

 
 By: watch-guy.com : June 17th, 2019-01:34

Good for you.

 
 By: watch-fan : June 17th, 2019-02:22
Will you be happy to show us of your box and your collection ?

Here is my box I was actually looking for one with a handle

 
 By: watch-guy.com : June 25th, 2019-22:55
And the inside Bare....!! Everything in the bank ...  

Good! Much safer. [nt]

 
 By: amanico : June 25th, 2019-22:59

Sometimes, Bank safety box is not safe.

 
 By: watch-fan : June 25th, 2019-23:37
Bank will not pay you if something wrong with your watch. I put my watches in many different locations. I feel more safe n this way.

I use the box as a display box more than storage box.

 
 By: watch-fan : June 26th, 2019-10:21
Normally, I put my watches in the paper box before I put them into safety box.

Different way to put your watches on the table

 
 By: watch-fan : June 15th, 2019-21:18
We all know PP watch is expensive. So, I always put my watches on the tray before taking a photo or play with my watches. Put watches directly on the table and have no protection. better protection with a tray I always put my watches on the table in this ...  

Thank you for your compliment

 
 By: watch-fan : June 16th, 2019-00:27
No. I am only interested in limited edition. That is why my AD get headache about me. For example, I know many collectors like 5711, but I never ask for it. Until recently I got 5711 from my AD because I am curious why many collectors like it. I still pre...  

Thank you for your kind word.

 
 By: watch-fan : June 16th, 2019-10:20
How loyal to an AD ? It depends on how nice he treats you. My 5131R warranty paper had been hold for 2 years. Now I finally receive my paper, but I still not receive my 5131R document and leather cover for the document. I have no idea why my AD does not s...  

Thanks for sharing another real artwork (actually, two, including the table:-) In my personal experience, diversifying when it comes to ADs is also quite crucial...

 
 By: FabR : June 17th, 2019-01:04
Of course I have a main AD, and we are also very good friends, but I can buy at other ADs if I like a specific piece (e.g., the AD where I recently bought the 5131P was a new one for me). I just think it's good for both parties in this type of relationshi... 

In UK bit more different. The papers are

 
 By: Patekphilippecollector : June 17th, 2019-01:21
Held by Rhone not the AD. The watches are by Rhone not the AD. So even if you went to multiple dealers the request would still go through Rhone. I may be speaking out of turn but Rhone discourages multiple AD and encourages loyalty. Recently 2 forum memb... 

Thank you for your explanation.

 
 By: watch-fan : June 17th, 2019-02:20
I understand Rhone hold the paper for two years, but there is no reason to hold my 5131R document and without an explanation. I always be a loyal customer and good customer. I am upset without receiving the document.

Yes it was extremely emotional when it first occured with

 
 By: Patekphilippecollector : June 17th, 2019-08:13
Both views. I actually used it as a positive an offered Rhone to keep my papers for 5 years on 5131P. That way they could see I had no intention of flipping the watch and it gave them comfort that it was finding the correct t home.

Thanks for the clarification, I never dealt with Rhone but would have never expected they'll hold up the documents of a watch that's been regularly purchased...

 
 By: FabR : June 17th, 2019-03:29
I can understand their intent to discourage "flippers" from getting certain pieces, but I just find a similar practice unacceptable. In Italy the distribution begins with Patek Italia in Milano, so in a sense it's also "centralized", since Milano then ess... 

I actually may have misled a bit...

 
 By: Patekphilippecollector : June 17th, 2019-04:40
Its Rhone policy that the papers are held on 5131's for a period if 2 years. I didnt think to ask if AD or Rhone kept them. I just thought a Pepsi and Batman and both warranty cards were retail ed by the AD

Thanks, though personally I don’t see much of a difference if it’s Rhone itself or an AD to enforce this policy dictated by Rhône..

 
 By: FabR : June 17th, 2019-05:50
Geneva should probably establish a uniform policy across all markets, and I hope that keeping or seizing documents belonging to the most valued customers won’t be part of it..😉

Agree with you

 
 By: watch-fan : June 17th, 2019-14:49
PP should establish a uniform policy. I do not mind PP holds my paper, but not my document. How much loyalty that I have to show in order to earn their trust? This discourage me to buy PP watch if my AD does not know what kind of customer I am.

Everyone is treated the same by Rhone.

 
 By: russell996 : June 17th, 2019-14:53
First time buyer or big collector. 👍

Could you explain why my AD does not send me the document if Rhone treats everyone the same?

 
 By: watch-fan : June 17th, 2019-20:35
Do you know how can I contact with Rhone? perhaps I just write an email to PP to ask why my AD treats me this way. The funny is my AD always said we are good friends. recently I bought 6104/1G from him? He also ask Do I interested to buy 6104P? He just do...  

Brian, I don’t understand.

 
 By: russell996 : June 17th, 2019-22:44
You have an excellent relationship with Jamie, speak to him and ask him? I think you said you had received your‘Certificate of Authenticity’ - what else are Rhone holding? That is all they hold and even then they give you a photocopy of it.

I do not understand either.

 
 By: watch-fan : June 17th, 2019-23:22
I do not like to complain, but I already send three email and polite asking him I do not receive the document. He just does not want to answer me. Sometimes, I ask for price list. He just do not to give it to me. Thank you for helping me to solve the prob... 

That would be precisely my problem with this policy — the distrust that it so overtly implies.

 
 By: FabR : June 17th, 2019-15:47
I honestly can’t tell you what I’d be doing with absolute certainty since I haven’t found myself in in a similar situation here with an AD or distributor, but they certainly do make it harder to buy under such unfriendly conditions😉

Thank you for your information.

 
 By: watch-fan : June 17th, 2019-02:15
I am loyalty to London AD more than 10 years. I also introduced my friends to him, but I feel he treats my friends better than me now. My AD even do not send me a price list and catalog recently. Now I am upsetting not receiving my 5131R document after ow... 

I agree with you.

 
 By: watch-fan : June 17th, 2019-09:41
I do not resell my 5131. Document is part of my deal. I must have it. I just need a reason why.

As simple as that. [nt]

 
 By: amanico : June 17th, 2019-14:52

I'm not familiar with your AD, but this obviously sounds like an unpleasant situation. Perhaps just a chat on the phone, or even a visit when you are in the area, will help clear up any possible misunderstanding? :-)

 
 By: FabR : June 17th, 2019-03:34
Otherwise, as a last resort contacting Rhone and having a chat with them should help. There might be bigger customers than you (this is always the case with anybody!), but you are certainly a top flight Patek collection and customer of that AD, so I belie... 

Thank you for your suggestion

 
 By: watch-fan : June 17th, 2019-09:34
Rhone does not like customer to phone him. He prefers customer deal with his AD. It is not a big deal, but as you said I have a right to receive the document. Otherwise, I need an explanation. I do not upset my AD sincere I know him. As I understand, Rhon... 

I think this is actually great, that you were able to source your 5131P elsewhere :-)

 
 By: FabR : June 17th, 2019-10:14
Let's never forget we have no exclusive contract with any AD; in fact, since we bring our money to them, they have to make us happy, not the other way around... As far as I'm concerned, I'm entirely honest with my main AD and any other one about what I bu... 

I got my 5077R from Taiwan AD too.

 
 By: watch-fan : June 17th, 2019-14:29
It is so hard to get enamel watch from London, especially you are foreign customer because of loyalty. got my black 5077 from Taiwan and red 5077 from London. I have to change my mind because I can not get what I want from UK even I am very loyal to my AD...  

What paperwork were you sent? You say you received something?

 
 By: russell996 : June 17th, 2019-06:36
Rhone only held my certificate of authenticity- everything else came with the piece originally. They police the 2 year period to the day, my AD requested the certificate a couple of weeks early and they were told no. It arrived to the day two years after ... 

I only receive warranty paper, no document

 
 By: watch-fan : June 17th, 2019-09:16
I do not receive this document. Normally, I communicate with my AD BY email. My AD is a good AD, but I need to know why he does not want to send me the document. I think I have right to receive the document. I am ok Rhone hold the warranty paper for two y...  

To be honest I find this practice very strange. The AD should / would know their customers. And therefore this shouldn’t be an issue.

 
 By: FRAMII : June 17th, 2019-09:25
I have a few of the not so easy to get Pateks and have never experience such demands from my AD I got all the documents and paperwork when I got the watch. I find it strange that Patek accept different practices from place to place. And can anybody tell m...  

Rhone is a UK MD.

 
 By: watch-fan : June 17th, 2019-09:38
He decides who get a limited edition watch in UK.

Thanks for the clarification... I have only bought on Patek in the Uk my first one a 5035J.

 
 By: FRAMII : June 17th, 2019-10:04
Still find it strange the different practice around the world 😏

sorry for the mistake

 
 By: watch-fan : June 17th, 2019-11:29
Mark Hearn (Managing Director of Patek Philippe UK) decides who get a limited edition watch.

You are right.

 
 By: watch-fan : June 17th, 2019-14:21
AD should know their customers. I would never sell my 5131. Love P and R the most. How do you like Your 5131P. By the way, you got a nice collection.

Me too

 
 By: watch-fan : June 18th, 2019-00:46
love 5131P a lot.

Fantastic watch box and watches !

 
 By: GLau : June 17th, 2019-10:55
An impressive collection indeed !

Thank you Gordon

 
 By: watch-fan : June 17th, 2019-11:31
You have very nice collection too.

view my watch

 
 By: watch-fan : June 19th, 2019-18:28
I always put my watches in this way when I view my watches. ...  

second favorite gift

 
 By: watch-fan : June 19th, 2019-23:55
Sometimes, gift does not has been expensive. We have to love it , useful and good quality. This small wallet is my second favorite gift. ...  

For a watch? [nt]

 
 By: amanico : June 20th, 2019-00:04

Yes

 
 By: watch-fan : June 20th, 2019-00:10
very good for travel ...  

No paper box now.

 
 By: watch-fan : June 20th, 2019-00:23
PP does not offer the paper box now unless you have a very good relationship with your AD.

banned

 
 By: daneninja1 : June 21st, 2019-20:28
did you get banned from TRF?

Very good question

 
 By: watch-fan : June 21st, 2019-22:43
I wonder how many people get TRF when they buy a watch now. I have some spare TRF from before. I like them. So I keep these spare TRF. I do not buy any PP watch around a year because I am upset about new policies. For example, I can't have TRF. My 5131 wa... 

Rolexforum

 
 By: daneninja1 : June 21st, 2019-23:34
I think you misunderstood the question. My question was were you posting on Rolexforum and got banned from posting there?

Forgive my poor English.

 
 By: watch-fan : June 21st, 2019-23:59
Sorry, for misunderstanding your question. Yes. Rolex forum banned my account without any

Conyers, thank you for your support

 
 By: watch-fan : June 22nd, 2019-08:29
maybe Rolex forum did not like I mentioned about my AD Jamie. I just told the true. some people even thank you for me to introduce them to my AD. I did not get any benefit from doing this. I am just friendly and honestly. What ever it decided it is its bu... 

Once you have been permanently banned you cannot rejoin.

 
 By: russell996 : June 22nd, 2019-09:32
Your previous ban was the reason for the recent ban.

It is ok.

 
 By: watch-fan : June 22nd, 2019-09:37
I am not interested in visit it any more. There are too many interesting things for me to enjoy in the world. I do not have waste my time there.

Some forums are just not worth your time..

 
 By: Fjan : June 22nd, 2019-22:41
I am not ban in any forum but I personally dislike TZ. Rude moderators. Even tho they are not to me but I see how they reply some ppl, just no class n obnoxious.

I agree with you. [nt]

 
 By: watch-fan : June 23rd, 2019-00:04

Their loss

 
 By: daneninja1 : June 22nd, 2019-19:50
It is their loss. You have an amazing collection. Keep posting here

more photos please

 
 By: daneninja1 : June 22nd, 2019-21:02
You got an amazing collection, can you please post more photos, especially the celestial. Thanks

6104/1G pictures

 
 By: watch-fan : June 23rd, 2019-00:00
...  

people like different

 
 By: watch-fan : June 23rd, 2019-18:20
I have many watches. Therefore, I like different style. Most men do not like diamond, but I like to have few diamond watches.

6104/1G

 
 By: daneninja1 : June 28th, 2019-21:26
I think the watch looks amazing with the diamonds and white gold bracelet. What other amazing pieces you have?

..

 
 By: Fjan : June 22nd, 2019-22:36

Rare handcrafts book

 
 By: watch-fan : June 23rd, 2019-18:31
These are some of my rare handcrafts books. They are nice gifts. I can look at these books to get more information about rare watches Although I do not own all rare limited edition watches. ...  

I’m not sure about Norway, but I normally just ask them directly to Patek Italia or to some AD I’m related to and they order them...

 
 By: FabR : June 25th, 2019-14:55
It may take a bit longer for older issues but if you have bought rare handcraft watches (and you have!) I’m sure it won’t be a problem to get you the books😀

You can ask your AD to get them for free gift. [nt]

 
 By: watch-fan : June 25th, 2019-16:26
I asked my AD ordered the books for me as a gift. I believe you can get them from Salon too.

Nice collection of books, magazines, and catalogs.

 
 By: watch-fan : June 25th, 2019-16:31
These are very useful information.

Is it possible...

 
 By: lascases : June 25th, 2019-23:28
... that you are still missing the 3-book publication on Patek by Patrizi and this other guy (cannot remember his name)? Might be a great add-on!

another nice watch box

 
 By: watch-fan : June 26th, 2019-00:02
This is a 175 anniversary limited edition watch box. I think this is a gift too because whoever got allocated a 175 limited edition watch is a lucky one. ...  

yes that box came iwith both 5975 and 5575

 
 By: watch-guy.com : June 26th, 2019-01:43
...  

FabR, Do you buy a watch from regular AD or direct from Salon?

 
 By: watch-fan : June 26th, 2019-10:16
Very nice dial and bracelet. like your watch a lot.

Interesting. There are 38 AD in Italy.

 
 By: watch-fan : June 26th, 2019-20:16
Only 2 AD in France. I guess you are a salon customer because you have many wonderful collection.

my mistake.

 
 By: watch-fan : June 27th, 2019-08:09
It is only one AD. Why? French people does not like PP?

Nope, never really bought Pateks outside of Italy, including the salons. Here ADs are normally very nice also because it’s in a sense a small community...

 
 By: FabR : June 27th, 2019-01:03
The only thing I temporarily regret is, actually, that I’ve been getting all sorts of gifts, invitations to events, the manufacture, etc. even by a bunch of ADs where I never bought anything (yet)... but I’ll certainly make up for that😉

You must be a very good customer

 
 By: watch-fan : June 27th, 2019-08:07
I guess They know you very well. AD all like big customer. Last time I heared one AD mentioned. They all know who(special VIP) is coming in which day in London. Just like spy. Interesting to hear that. Happy for you. You must be happy to be treated this w... 

There are too many PP gifts.

 
 By: watch-fan : June 26th, 2019-20:29
I wonder how many gifts I do not have in the whole PP gifts. Not many collectors show their gifts. Hope more collectors will show their nice gifts to us. I show my gifts before. This time I only show the gifts that I like. Nice gift means to me. I must li...  

Interesting Post..

 
 By: Teacher Yang : June 27th, 2019-13:04
I like the second last gift photo

try to post differently.

 
 By: watch-fan : June 27th, 2019-15:02
Most people post their watches, But I try to post How much I like my PP gifts. Do you mean you like first or second gift? ...  

I like to post differently too

 
 By: Teacher Yang : June 27th, 2019-20:05
I like the first gift. It looks very clean and elegant.

These two bags come together.

 
 By: watch-fan : June 27th, 2019-20:16
One big and another one is small, but they are a package as one gift. I like them when you touch the leather. They are soft and not scratch. Some PP leather will have scratch very easy. Do not like scratch leather. ...  

Good sharing from you Watch-Fan

 
 By: Teacher Yang : June 27th, 2019-20:27
Look forward to many of your gifts posts and photos

another nice gift

 
 By: watch-fan : June 27th, 2019-21:43
...  

I got this gift about one year ago.

 
 By: watch-fan : June 28th, 2019-13:59
That is why we have to share our gifts each other. I Am looking for more gifts in the future.

cufflinks gift

 
 By: watch-fan : June 28th, 2019-14:15
Receive this cufflinks gift. special made for 5088. Look very nice, but I do not use cufflinks very often. ...  

Thank you

 
 By: watch-fan : July 19th, 2019-22:29
The cufflinks looks nice, but I wish I can exchange more useful gifts.

Messenger bag & headphone

 
 By: happymsp : July 16th, 2019-00:58
Received this very useful messenger bag and a noise cancellation headphone for long travel use. I like the Patek Philippe plate on the headset, making the B&O H8 an exclusive gift. As for the golf balls, don't think it will be used, I always put new balls...  

very nice gifts

 
 By: watch-fan : July 16th, 2019-07:38
Like your headphone a lot. Thank you for sharing your gifts. I will try to get headphone as my next gift. Your are right. Do not use the golf ball, you may missing it very easy.