Naturally one can't compare apples and oranges

Oct 09, 2016,03:19 AM
 

and 5550 is an apple and 5450 the orange.
I never bought 5146 just because of the date. But now when I have 5450 I have used to the date window and I am amazed how readable the watch is. In the readability class it is my #1 complicate Patek.
At the same time I would rank 5550 99 points out of 100 (Parker points). The text "Advanced Research" is not needed but I does not shine out.
I am also very worried about the new style. When I look at my limited platinum pieces, 5100P and 5450P are Philippe Stern's time and these watches are very clean and sober. My 5550P and 5975P are Thierry Stern's creatures. Both are fantastic watches but in my eyes louder. Advanced research in the dial of 5550P and lots of engraving in the clasp of 5975P. Naturally, I changed the clasp to a standard deployment clasp and interestingly, I hear that many other clients did just the same.
For me Patek is about quality, a little bit conservative design and understatement. Glitter and huge size is not the traditional understatement I love.
Best, Kari


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I went to London wearing one of the old greats.

 
 By: dr.kol : October 9th, 2016-01:56
Our friend ch9698 praised this in the past. I started to love it deeply only after I started to wear it. But what is special? Ref. 5450P celebrates the Advanced Research and this text together with a magnifying glass appears in the back side. But the dial...  

Used nappieS were

 
 By: dr.kol : October 9th, 2016-02:34
the first thing I thought. But in reality the colour is great and light really plays on that. Best, Kari

Our daughter is basically out from nappies.

 
 By: dr.kol : October 9th, 2016-03:40
I do not have really bad memories from the nappies period. My wife tells (proudly) to everybody that once, on a Sunday morning, I changed the nappy. But I have lots of experience with the three older ones. Best, Kari

Your wife seems really severe with you ;-)

 
 By: Alkiro1 : October 9th, 2016-08:25
Best wishes Alkiro

+1

 
 By: Arie - Mr Orange : October 9th, 2016-10:08
I could post photos to prove that. But I won\'t. Nevertheless it is a really nice color for a watch dial!

LOL Kari on your comments on "used diaper"!! How would the watch ...

 
 By: GLau : October 9th, 2016-10:32
designer for the dial think about his/her creation? Cheers, Gordon

That's the colour first coming to my mind.

 
 By: dr.kol : October 9th, 2016-21:47
But this colour plays tricks on the wrist. It changes from light to dark but the watch is in all conditions very readable. Don't misunderstand; I like the watch and its colour a lot! Best, Kari

I was never fan of the mention GTI 16 V Turbo Sport on the Peugeot 2015 either.

 
 By: amanico : October 9th, 2016-02:14
You are right, less writing is more pleasure. Best, Nicolas

As almost always...

 
 By: Esharp : October 9th, 2016-02:40
Nico and I are in agreement. Thinking about it, this came out in 2008. So perhaps in 2018 Patek will introduce a larger model of this watch...and they can emboss "2008-10-2018" on the front. That might leave enough room for "Advanced Research Pulsomax Ann... 

Naturally one can't compare apples and oranges

 
 By: dr.kol : October 9th, 2016-03:19
and 5550 is an apple and 5450 the orange. I never bought 5146 just because of the date. But now when I have 5450 I have used to the date window and I am amazed how readable the watch is. In the readability class it is my #1 complicate Patek. At the same t... 

Kari, very interesting points

 
 By: Esharp : October 9th, 2016-04:08
Thank you. I\'m tempted to agree - and yes, the clasp on the otherwise-impeccable 5975 is a bit incongruous. Patek to me always also stood for refinement and discretion, even if it hasn\'t always been completely conservative (think of some of the avant-ga... 

During the new regime

 
 By: dr.kol : October 9th, 2016-04:23
Patek has introduced some stunning models like 5370P. Aside are the new Nautilus. Perhaps Patek is looking for new direction by trying different styles but naturally, I do not know. The regular clients, people who love Patek Philippe, should tell Geneva w... 

Well it certainly got people talking.

 
 By: Esharp : October 9th, 2016-05:25
I\'m sure there has been plenty of feedback!

Nico, I agree.

 
 By: dr.kol : October 9th, 2016-03:04
I always try to get everything with as little writing as possible. Why should I advertise the engine (on the other hand there's not too much to advertise). Best, Kari ...  

Sometimes I'm weak.

 
 By: dr.kol : October 9th, 2016-03:38
It's too easy here to get what you want. But my other Cayanne is normal. The old one I'll take 1,200 km north of us and then in the winter we can easily fly to Lapland even for a weekend. Best, Kari ...  

I always told you Kari

 
 By: ch9698 : October 9th, 2016-02:38
you have to listen to me more carefully have a nice sunday my friend John

John, I will listen you in the future!

 
 By: dr.kol : October 9th, 2016-03:02
Why didn't you tell me last year that I should take 5711P when it was possible? It's funny to see how similar our tastes are. Best, Kari

don't worry my good friend

 
 By: ch9698 : October 9th, 2016-03:13
If I decide to sell mine, and it could be possible, you will be the first to know it

I understand you very well.

 
 By: dr.kol : October 9th, 2016-03:24
The new Anniversary 5711/1P is on the other hand making your watch more special and on the other hand inflating a platinum Nautilus. Why on earth did the not make the platinum version with perpetual movement, something like 300 pieces, without diamonds an... 

Fantastic watch, fantastic combo.

 
 By: afl : October 9th, 2016-03:59
I love very much two dials in whole classic horology world which are 5970 and 5146 style dials. Because 5970 is a bit far target for me now, I enjoy very much with my 5146J. But your 5450 is an absolute beauty. This strap matches perfectly with this stunn... 

H Kerem,

 
 By: dr.kol : October 9th, 2016-04:17
Thanks, I enjoy my 5450P a lot and the nicest thing is that the watch is just whispering that it's something a bit special. Best, Kari

Very nice and more daring choice Kari

 
 By: Mark in Paris : October 9th, 2016-07:51
The Salmon dial, the blackened elements etc... This is by the way quite daring for Patek and I imagine the black parts and color combination was so much different than a traditional silver/balc dial and gold elements combination that it was coldly welcome... 

Mark, I agree to a degree.

 
 By: dr.kol : October 9th, 2016-07:58
Bolt design is needed. However, when an anniversary watch is made for the friends of Nautilus, 2,000 watches all having hour markers made of diamonds and the anniversary printed/engraved to the dial is.... mildly said too much. Otherwise I agree. Best, Ka... 

Indeed Kari, the choice

 
 By: Mark in Paris : October 9th, 2016-08:22
of diamonds is not "neutral" at all in this case and can't be analysed like a change of dial color only. I totally agree and this is a tough matter to think about. Definitely. On the other hand when I see the strong come back of yellow gold and 2-tone wat...