Well, this is pure application of physics law from Shannon-Nyquist. It is usually taught around 9th grade

Apr 06, 2022,17:01 PM
 

This is related to discretization (going from one analog event to a numerated result). That is, for instance, the reason why CDs are sampled at ~44KHz while the ear is limited to ~22KHz. You need a reference that is twice faster than the measurement instrument. Otherwise you fall into the measurements uncertainties as defined by the BIPM. 


 Let's take for instance 4 different events. Each during exactly 1.98s ; 1.89s ; 1.82s ; 1.62s. The measure at a tenth of a second should give us respectively : 2.0 ; 1.9 ; 1.8 ; 1.6. Or more precisely, values a value in between 2.08<1.88 ; 1.99<1.79 ; 1.92<1.72 ; 1.72<1.52. A measure that is not within the range is false. 
Now, take a look at what happens depending o, the frequency of the watch :



A 5Hz watch will not be able differentiate from a 1.62 to 1.98 duration. Two measures are false, two are right.
10Hz will give correct measures with these examples, but my choices are not relevant enough here. A 1.99 duration with a trart on the first beat would have confirmed the rule for instance. 
20 Hz will allow us to reduce the uncertainty to less than a tenth. That is exactly the point. Therefore, Shannon Nyquist theory applied to a watch measurement is demonstrated.

There is a french document on the BIPM explaining the measurement uncertainties (Guide pour l'expression de l'incertitude de mesure (JCGM 100:2008) (bipm.org)) and there was a second one but the link is dead since I had written that article.

You can also raise the other errors a mechanical chronograph introduces. such as the Beat error on the escapement. Not relevant except on the Tag Micrographer. This is also the reason why one should take the oscillation not the alternance.
The horizontal clutch is also bringing a noticeable error like on a El-Primero, even with a 360 teeth chronograph wheel. This only is already representing a 0.4s uncertainty on this mechanism.

Conclusion, this Patek is not capable to measure with a 1/10s accuracy. Barely, 2/5th of a second.



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Patek's newest Grand Complication --- Reference 5470P --- is LIVE!

 
 By: FabR : April 6th, 2022-07:03
Dear Friends, it's with great pleasure that today we can announce the latest, remarkable Grand Complication created by Patek Philippe --- Ref. 5470P in Platinum, as part of the regular catalog! You can soon find all the information on this new marvel also...  

I’m ready and waiting 😬…

 
 By: Cpt Scarlet : April 6th, 2022-07:04
Looks very good.

Nope! ;-)))

 
 By: FabR : April 6th, 2022-07:14

Looking at the watch …

 
 By: Cpt Scarlet : April 6th, 2022-07:42
It’s understandable. A strong addition to the lineup.

Thank you 🙏

 
 By: Cpt Scarlet : April 6th, 2022-07:55

Great review, many thanks,

 
 By: russell996 : April 6th, 2022-08:31
Not really a successor to the 5370 since it’s not a Rattrapante, more another complication option.

Eeeherrm: patents pending ☝🧐

 
 By: COUNT DE MONET : April 6th, 2022-07:43

Today i'd be running to FPJ to reserve theirs. The best finishing work in the industry imho.

 
 By: enjoythemusic : April 6th, 2022-14:42
Alas, I missed out on the just-released Czapek split-second, that is a truly amazing timepiece!

amazing!

 
 By: ChristianDK : April 6th, 2022-12:52

If I may say it is more of avant garde complement to 5370 pure rattrapante

 
 By: Gelato Monster : April 12th, 2022-23:03
Though Blue is Beautiful and contemporary. Personally Black and White or Salmon 😍would be my preference. For Professor I would modify the blue into something eclectic yet definable , perhaps panda style of Amalfi - Turqoise?

It will go well for people who wear Kiton clothing.

 
 By: patrick_y : April 6th, 2022-07:43
Kiton clothing often has red accents. This watch has so many red accents!

You're right! I'm looking at my Isaia pants...

 
 By: patrick_y : April 6th, 2022-07:50
Lots of red accents!

;-)

 
 By: FabR : April 6th, 2022-07:52

My favorite pants...

 
 By: patrick_y : April 6th, 2022-07:53
Wool flannel pants! If you haven't discovered them yet, they're lovely. But you've probably been aware of them much longer than I have been! Mine are in a five pocket layout and I sleep in them on the airplane!

Love Isaia as well!

 
 By: m2 : April 6th, 2022-14:53
I actually own the same shirt you posted @fabr. The one on the left. Their sport coats in particular I love!

The life of a Patek Philippe Moderator...

 
 By: patrick_y : April 6th, 2022-16:27
It's champagne, champagne, and very fine shirts!

Wow! That does make sense logically!

 
 By: patrick_y : April 6th, 2022-16:55
Now I'm the type after a dinner drink, I take a nap in the middle of after-dinner-movie time. And I wake up in the middle and ask anybody around me, "what happened while I was asleep." It's gotten my friends so annoyed that now they tell me to drink only ... 

;-))))

 
 By: FabR : April 6th, 2022-16:59

LORO PIANA MAKES A SUPER 170'S FLANNEL

 
 By: vicunaman1 : April 6th, 2022-15:03
I MADE SOME PANTS FROM THAT CLOTH

Good heavens.

 
 By: patrick_y : April 6th, 2022-15:04
What's that using? 8 micron wool? 170s? Oh my goodness!

S/170'S IS 15 MICRONS

 
 By: vicunaman1 : April 6th, 2022-15:42
I BELIEVE THAT THE LORO PIANA 170'S IS 15 TO 15.5 MICRONS

Hmm. Ok. I'm forgetting my microns.

 
 By: patrick_y : April 6th, 2022-15:44
Still, those sound like very very nice pants!

Nice to my skin, but not nice to my wallet...

 
 By: patrick_y : April 6th, 2022-15:58
Gotta balance things out sometimes! But I have to stop buying pants really. I've got eight or so Kiton pants, some of which I haven't worn in two years! Another two Pescarolo pants that I've never worn ever. And probably a few more underutilized pants!

Pretty good deals since covid...

 
 By: m2 : April 6th, 2022-16:29
I got too fat during covid, but I noticed a lot of very good deals on Kiton, Isaia, Attolini, etc... ever since COVID kicked off.

I can't gain too much weight!

 
 By: patrick_y : April 6th, 2022-16:33
Yes! Lots of good clothing deals! If I gain too much weight, I won't ever fit into those pants that I've never even worn once! The trainer beat me into submission today. But core exercises doesn't really reduce weight... Gotta exercise more and eat less! ... 

You have good taste….

 
 By: vicunaman1 : April 7th, 2022-15:50

A nice way to FLY !!!!!

 
 By: vicunaman1 : April 7th, 2022-15:52

🙏🙏❤️

 
 By: FabR : April 7th, 2022-18:52

Now your talking!

 
 By: Chronometer (aka yacomino) : April 6th, 2022-10:57

Next time you go to the store...

 
 By: patrick_y : April 6th, 2022-14:16
The next time you go to the store, pay attention to the buttonholes. You'll see they're individually made and hand stitched. Each buttonhole takes around 4-5 minutes for a professional to complete! The ISAIA shirts really are quite special!

Whoa, who makes the shoes? Bontoni?

 
 By: patrick_y : April 6th, 2022-16:51
I've always been a John Lobb guy myself. But I have to admit, the Italians have a bit more flamboyance!

The aubergine pants are incredible as well...

 
 By: patrick_y : April 6th, 2022-17:00
I like pinstripes. Pinstripes just work on me. And I see you use the "Berluti" knot.

;-)

 
 By: FabR : April 6th, 2022-17:03

🔥🔥🔥

 
 By: Chronometer (aka yacomino) : April 6th, 2022-19:41

Looking sharp!

 
 By: Chronometer (aka yacomino) : April 6th, 2022-19:41

🙏🙏❤️

 
 By: FabR : April 6th, 2022-19:47

a dream piece

 
 By: keks : April 6th, 2022-07:42
... perfection... but not for my thin wallet unfortunately... but this is one of the best things I have seen from PP in a long time! Well done!

My wallet is a bit too thin too!

 
 By: patrick_y : April 6th, 2022-13:52
Although honestly, if you have a high limit credit card, that's probably all you need.

Ahh! We can have a lot to talk about, like what are the best cards!

 
 By: patrick_y : April 6th, 2022-16:58
And yes, I always pay my credit card in full. But I tell people to get mortgages and auto loans since the rates are low and the economic inflation is high, so they're likely going to repay with inflated money later.

Hopefully soon!

 
 By: patrick_y : April 6th, 2022-17:03

Ahh!

 
 By: patrick_y : April 6th, 2022-17:10
My fanciest credit card was made out of solid metal. It weighed 28 grams! Made a big clang if you dropped it on the floor. Unfortunately, the card recently expired and they mailed me a plastic replacement! That's not very fun!

Just read it. So 2% to 3% cash back, but only when redeemed at certain partners.

 
 By: patrick_y : April 6th, 2022-17:30
It's interesting. 4% as a referral bonus. Hmm. Interesting!

Yep, but the thing I like the most is the large credit limit (they claim to look at income much more than credit scores, and they'll make you a precise offer with a soft pull only, which is great ;-)

 
 By: FabR : April 6th, 2022-18:06
The issue with the partners is you'll have to pay off the *entire* charge with points, and so you might have trust to leave many points in there ;-) But redeemed as cash back is 0.7%, which makes it effectively a 2.1% cash back card if you charge on it $1... 

Fidelity is already 2% and no minimum spend required.

 
 By: patrick_y : April 7th, 2022-02:04
This card is cool, but kind of complex.

That's right, though I don't have a Fidelity card (I occasionally open and close their Cash Management account but never got a bonus offer yet...). The best flat cash back card for me, if we don't consider some of the geofenced, is probably SoFi...

 
 By: FabR : April 7th, 2022-09:40
All free (including no FTFs which is always my first requirement! ;-)) and now it's also become a real bank, with some excellent savings and checking accounts at 1.25%.... Hope it's sustainable, but they are backed by some great investors so it might be! ... 

I don't want to divulge too much on here, but this is a credit card that I would need...

 
 By: patrick_y : April 7th, 2022-10:14
Introducing the WatchProSite Luxury Big Spender credit card. 5 points rewards at watch and jewelry retailers including Airport Duty Free purchases. A stainless steel Daytona allocation once you spend X amount in a calendar year (resets every calendar year... 

Gee! That's a lot of credit cards in a short period of time!

 
 By: patrick_y : April 7th, 2022-14:37
The credit bureau is probably wondering what's going on! You're going to be on their "naughty boy list" soon!

Ahh, yeah, but if you buy something online, do you get 1% or 2%?

 
 By: patrick_y : April 7th, 2022-01:58
I suppose you get 2% if the online merchant takes Apple Pay?

I wouldn't think you can use Apple Pay online, the way it's meant to be is in person by tapping on your phone... Apple card will in fact give you an actual card number to use otherwise.

 
 By: FabR : April 7th, 2022-09:48
I can see they say this explicitly in the app, "Use this card number online, over the phone, and anywhere Apple Pay is not available"....so it looks like it's always a 1% online ;-)

Ahh! I see...

 
 By: patrick_y : April 7th, 2022-10:05

;-)

 
 By: FabR : April 7th, 2022-10:59

However, in the video, the 1/10th second chrono hand is said to be derived from the rattrapante mechanism.

 
 By: joenghenry : April 6th, 2022-14:38
Hence you may say it’s a variant of rattrapante? An interesting question will be which one do you prefer, 5370P or 5470P if one would upgrade from a conventional manual winding chronograph

That is simply gorgeous!

 
 By: jlux : April 6th, 2022-08:02
A real dream watch !!

Very unexpected

 
 By: Arronax : April 6th, 2022-08:04
Generally not a big fan purely based on looks but this is very different and very attractive. Keep the updates coming

Ouch! ;-))

 
 By: FabR : April 6th, 2022-08:07

You mean it should have been on the bezel instead, like the Zenith Chronomaster Sport?

 
 By: jiggerly-cool : April 6th, 2022-12:26
Kidding aside, I agree. Why clutter the dial with terms/specs the owner already knows? It's like having a badge on a Range Rover proclaiming "Panoramic Moonroof" 🙈

Exactly

 
 By: tombub : April 9th, 2022-09:07

Fab This is brilliant

 
 By: watch-guy.com : April 6th, 2022-08:31
Thanks so much for sharing this with us so quickly This is really a horological masterpiece from the epitome of watch making brands Julian

👍🥂

 
 By: FabR : April 6th, 2022-10:14

I’m struggling.

 
 By: Miles_151 : April 6th, 2022-09:43
Technically brilliant no doubt about that. Aesthetically I’m still processing its sporty feel with the red trim. As many of you know the lume will also always remain a problem for me on such a complication. Is this the future of Patek complications???? Th... 

Thanks for your input Miles -- I'm frankly loving the more modern (and yes, also a tad colorful) aesthetics of this piece, *given that* its technical value is established and already amazing! ;-)

 
 By: FabR : April 6th, 2022-10:10
But of course we are in the realm of subjectivity here, so I totally respect your take on this new reference I believe, however, that we should expect this type of modern Patek references more and more going forward, also in the sense of aesthetically les... 

Absolutely agree my friend.

 
 By: Miles_151 : April 6th, 2022-13:06
You are correct that this is the path that Patek has chosen. I am almost an old fossil even at my age of 50 compared to the new money, younger collector which lets be honest is where the future is. Myself and other collectors who yearn for the good old da... 

Look at the Price 😂😂😂

 
 By: JohnJohn : April 6th, 2022-10:32
The Patek Philippe REf. 5470P has a retail price of CHF 380,000.

It is stunning

 
 By: RGS : April 6th, 2022-12:41
And yes, PP have started the sportification in aesthetics, of the calatrava, complications and now grand complications line of watches. I like it. As for the price, well in a world where people pay 200K for a Naitilus or Aquanaut, why not? Cheers!

🙏🥂Cheers.

 
 By: FabR : April 6th, 2022-16:45

Wow - very impressive (and different for PP)

 
 By: MPP : April 6th, 2022-11:56
Definitely a more modern look than the classical PP chrono. Part of me does wonder how many people actually need to measure to the 1/10 of a second, particularly given the imprecision necessarily built into manually engaging the chrono function, but I sup... 

I really like the case design of this one

 
 By: takman : April 6th, 2022-12:11
The navy blue and red also look quite appalling to me. Almost red, white, and blue for our American friends. I’m not quite convinced by the 1/10th second complication but I haven’t read all the technical material. Overall a very handsome watch!

Technically very cool

 
 By: TeutonicCarFan : April 6th, 2022-12:21
But I don't like the wiring on the dial or that strap. I'm sure that's irrelevant since I'd likely need to sell my house to buy 😁

😂

 
 By: TeutonicCarFan : April 6th, 2022-20:56
The wife and kids agree too 😁

that looks great! well done, Patek

 
 By: ChristianDK : April 6th, 2022-12:24
cant afford one but now I have an idea for a strap for my 5960A black dial Thank you for bringing us the news, my friend.

Superb! This looks like a walk-off homerun to me

 
 By: MichaelC : April 6th, 2022-12:34
Completely awesome. Bravo, Patek.

agree, Michael. To me its the release of the year!

 
 By: ChristianDK : April 6th, 2022-12:53
(with the Grand Seiko Kodo)

In terms of Design, I really have impression that

 
 By: hazzgard : April 6th, 2022-13:00
Patek is caring a lot about the “new generation” of collectors with modern looks, colors and dial textures. I don’t know what will be the outcome of this, but IMO they are doing a good strategy as they still keep the “classic” Patek. Do you also have an i... 

Thanks for the wright up Fab

 
 By: Costa (aka Connie) : April 6th, 2022-13:57
Beautiful time piece. Too bad it’s so expensive. These watches are becoming so expensive only kings and queens can afford them. Still fun to read about and look at. Hope you have a good day

F

 
 By: Pour le Mérite : April 6th, 2022-14:43

Really nice looking chronograph, but what bothers me is this 1/10s mention.

 
 By: Steyr : April 6th, 2022-14:43
Especially since the press releases mentions "measurement". Physics and measurements are strictly defined and a 5Hz can only allow you to measure 2.5Hz (Shannon Nyquist). And that would be the measure for 0.4 seconds not 0.1 or 2/5th of a second. That's p... 

Hi, Steyr, could you elaborate a bit more on the correlation between Hz and smallest measurable unit of time?

 
 By: joenghenry : April 6th, 2022-15:12
A 5 Hz movement means there are ten vibrations/ swing of balance wheel) per second. Each swing will allow the escape wheel to move the gear train for one step, ie the gear train will progress by ten increments in each second. Therefore this movement shoul... 

Well, this is pure application of physics law from Shannon-Nyquist. It is usually taught around 9th grade

 
 By: Steyr : April 6th, 2022-17:01
This is related to discretization (going from one analog event to a numerated result). That is, for instance, the reason why CDs are sampled at ~44KHz while the ear is limited to ~22KHz. You need a reference that is twice faster than the measurement instr...  

No need for PhD, just count the black lines

 
 By: Steyr : April 6th, 2022-21:42
...9 lines in between two same-colored lines, you multiply with the oscillation duration and you get the measured value. If all measured values equal 1.8s (9 black lines=9 osc.x 0.2s) while events durations are from 1.62 to 1.98, this means that this watc... 

Thank you for your extensive elaboration, Steyr.

 
 By: joenghenry : April 7th, 2022-06:02
That’s the first time for me to encounter the Nyquist-Shannon Theorem. Fortunately I didn’t have to know this in my GCSE additional math examination and med school MBBS exam After reading your illustration and doing some online homework, I think what you ... 

I believe Nyquist-Shannon is not applicable here, as that context implies "measurement" being sampling and reproducing frequency data

 
 By: skyeriding : April 10th, 2022-04:42
The context of "measurement" in Nyquist-Shannon theory is applicable if you're using a sampling signal, and want to perfectly recreate the sampled signal. If you have an audio track going up to 22kHz (ignoring any higher freqs), measuring the amplitude of... 

SPECTACULAR !!!!

 
 By: vicunaman1 : April 6th, 2022-14:56
I'LL NEED A NIGHT JOB FOR THIS ONE...!!!! GREAT WITH JEANS

Make it in steel and get back to me : )

 
 By: mdg : April 6th, 2022-15:54
...but to afford it I'd have to have my wife get a second job (checks want ads)...

At this price point it's not a matter of money...

 
 By: mdg : April 6th, 2022-21:29
...or cheaper. I'd like the metal to be a bit tougher and the watch to be lighter. And we all know that SS Patek's have a certain mystique : )

I have already handled hand-wound monopusher chronographs who measured 1/1000th of a second

 
 By: penfriend : April 6th, 2022-17:11
So I am not sure about this technical fuzz here with this watch... Attractive yes, but overpriced imho. Thxs for showing and explaining!

Stunning!!!

 
 By: KCLQMULKU : April 6th, 2022-17:38
I love the sporty look of the use of red across the dial, hand, and inscription. The subtle grain of the face, the curves of the lugs leaving the case, the design pattern of the strap, and that movement!!!

This is why PP is multiple no 1.

 
 By: Gelato Monster : April 6th, 2022-18:10
King of King, again and again and again.

I think they go the Lange way here.

 
 By: COUNT DE MONET : April 7th, 2022-18:55
A 1/10th of a second watch from Patek is ... not realy Pateklike. And to place that property on the dial is cheap, sorry. Also, all the effort to fix an (unneeded) task/problem with such amount of engineering is the Lange way, something Lange is known for... 

what if the property is not red? or Black and Red instead of Blue and Red?

 
 By: Gelato Monster : April 7th, 2022-22:39
IMHO PP is responding to the challenge from the (AP, VC, ALS) as well attack of The independents. At the same time PP also tries to be avant garde in its design language (colors etc) including showoff styling/street style detail (Late Virgil Abloh etc) Pe... 

very correct "solution for a problem no one asked for"

 
 By: Gelato Monster : April 10th, 2022-05:10
Thank you skyeriding Its PP, they believe they can do anything at the top.😁

Some more thoughts ...

 
 By: COUNT DE MONET : April 10th, 2022-10:37
Patek is possibly creating more variants of its base movement (a considerable part ist still the chrono movement) in order to exploit it furher. Nothing wrong with that, but a 1/10th chrono is associated with a sporty brand, that Patek is not. Maybe it is... 

very true Count

 
 By: Gelato Monster : April 10th, 2022-11:59

Personally, I don't feel the issue is the attempt itself at a 1/10th second chrono

 
 By: skyeriding : April 11th, 2022-16:36
Rather, it is the convoluted approach to stack the 1/10th second chrono hand coaxially on top of the regular chronograph seconds. I don't see the usability/value out of it - as some others have pointed out, after a complete revolution of 12 seconds, the u... 

Just a quick response for the moment, but maybe I misunderstand something here.

 
 By: COUNT DE MONET : April 11th, 2022-17:24
My understanding is that multiples of 12 seconds are redundant, nothing of interest. The central regular, rhodinated second hand counts the seconds as usually, up to 60 seconds, than the minute counter jumps. The red laquared hand counts at the same time ... 

Sounds about correct

 
 By: skyeriding : April 12th, 2022-01:23
The red 12s chronograph hand (1/10th second) simply spins five times faster than the regular chronograph 60s hand. They are effectively tied together in all start/stop/reset functionality - one can be forgiven to think at first glance "why not just gear t... 

Sorry, but why has the red hand got less value after 12 sec?

 
 By: COUNT DE MONET : April 12th, 2022-09:16
It has constantly the value to show 1/10th during all operation time, also after 12 sec. Are you refering to the point that within 12 sec you can read the full and the 1/10th sec with the red hand only? Than the regular rhodinated, central second hand wou... 

I'd like to think of the red hand as giving a direct reading up to 12s, using the hour indices

 
 By: skyeriding : April 12th, 2022-11:33
For example, I can read off "8.3 seconds" directly from the scale using the red hand. But if I measure 15.3s, the red hand points to 3.3s and I have to mentally add 12s to it. Or, I read off the regular Rh plated hand of 15s and add the 0.3s from the red ... 

I would read this like Patek intended to do.

 
 By: COUNT DE MONET : April 12th, 2022-11:53
Still, it has got the "comfort" of all information in the center. Speaking of the Zenith: as Zenith's five graduations of each second on the dial of their standard chronos is correct with the beat ratio, it makes any additional effort to display 1/10th re... 

the magical charm of PP is undeniable

 
 By: Gelato Monster : April 12th, 2022-22:56
IMHO the price is marketable simply because it is the only watch with such unique complication in the market. Is the money reasonable? Hmmm. Could it be better spent on other watch ? Quite likely. On the other this fun hobby is sometimes mindless all pass... 

A WANT, FORTUNATELY NOT A NEED

 
 By: vicunaman1 : April 12th, 2022-23:49
A beautiful watch to own and take pleasure in wearing.

🤤 yes a want😁

 
 By: Gelato Monster : April 13th, 2022-00:02

👍👍

 
 By: Gelato Monster : April 12th, 2022-21:44

As someone whose academic work consists entirely of solving abstract/useless problems, I fully agree that what makes this watch impressive are its technical achievements (combined in my view with its aesthetics, though this is of course subjective)...

 
 By: FabR : April 10th, 2022-12:07
For sure, nobody (outside of a Centurionone meme) will likely ever use this complication during their daily routine. But while, similarly to many other fascinating research accomplishments, this is admittedly a "solution to a problem nobody asked for"....... 

On "spectacular" we can agree!😀

 
 By: COUNT DE MONET : April 10th, 2022-13:13
Having thought a bit more about this one, I must say the central display of second and 1/10th is fascinating.

Thanks for announcing this piece which to me has a refreshing

 
 By: GLau : April 6th, 2022-20:23
sporty look 👀 ! The red needle and red markers accentuate the vanished blue dial well. The “fabric” pattern of the strap reminds me of the 6007 LE, and gives the watch a “younger” feel ! Technically the 1/10 second measurement is an interesting developmen... 

A true masterpiece! One that proves again that Patek is unbeatable form esthetics, design, technical innovation and finishing!

 
 By: ZSHSZ : April 7th, 2022-00:13
This is the ”Who’s your daddy now?” piece...😜 I watched the presentation twice and it’s just eye watering beautiful(the price as well)! This again set the standard for the watchword and silenced those who questioned the knowhow of Patek. Thank you my frie... 

Ooff that’s a stunner. I’m nitpicking for perfection here

 
 By: emcquillan : April 7th, 2022-04:31
But would have preferred the 1/10th second not on the dial. If you know you know. The strap not sure would have to see it. I know traditional Patek watches are moving to sporty looking watches that were traditionally more elegant to attract younger client... 

Many thanks Edward for your typically valuable feedback! As we were discussing earlier, I think there is no doubt we've been witnessing a more casual/modern approach to many of the models that recently joined Patek's catalog...

 
 By: FabR : April 8th, 2022-00:09
This is a new direction that I personally enjoy a lot, *given that* the newer offering continues to honor Patek's unique tradition, while being consistently executed at the highest technical levels. But it's equally important in my view to, along the way,... 

BRAVO FAB !!!

 
 By: vicunaman1 : April 8th, 2022-00:24
As much as quality finishing, and technological inovation are of premier importance to the brand, it must be considered that a large segment of the present (ruling) generation has a more progressive, less formal fashion sense…Design and style is totally s... 

 
 By: PaddyP : April 7th, 2022-10:53
An amazing technical achievement and a stunning piece.. I may be alone in wishing it was black dial like first 5370p but other than that it’s just about perfect for me.

Wrist Balance? What's The Weight Of The Head?

 
 By: enjoythemusic : April 7th, 2022-12:52
Was chatting with a friend, and he brought up wrist balance. While i'm surprised that for the price both bracelet and strap were not included, with only a strap on offer, wrist balance could be a concern for such a large/thick timepiece. Does anyone know ... 

Since it uses the 5370 base movement and case

 
 By: russell996 : April 7th, 2022-14:58
I guess it wears exactly like the 5370P - so pretty perfect.

A magical watch...

 
 By: nacelle : April 7th, 2022-13:30
and frankly a magical read on this thread. So much knowledge to digest...

After you buy the watch you can have the car

 
 By: Centurionone : April 7th, 2022-15:43
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very nice match

 
 By: Gelato Monster : April 12th, 2022-23:56

;-)

 
 By: FabR : April 13th, 2022-02:02

I would have hoped that they would have kept enamel at

 
 By: Patekphilippecollector : April 8th, 2022-13:25
This price point as lacquer smells of price houge

🙈🙈🙈

 
 By: Patekphilippecollector : April 9th, 2022-08:54

😂❤️

 
 By: FabR : April 9th, 2022-12:09

Thanks Fab for presenting and helping us to understand and appreciate this highly complicated, innovative and unprecedented super

 
 By: patekova : April 14th, 2022-01:47
complication piece from Patek. An extraordinary complication. Blending classic styling with a modern sensibility it should appeal to a broad cross section of collectors/aficionados. I love the blue/red/white color scheme and strap choice. Will I find it a...