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Aug 14, 2021,20:55 PM
 

Neither of the models have much to offer except  an old workhorse ( though reliable) small sized 21.9mm caliber 215 cased in steel or precious metal. Of course the models being considered by you are limited by production numbers. 


The 215 may be replaced by the caliber 30-255 probably across the entire Calatrava range, and is a bit more generous at 31mm;  and much improved.

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Stainless Steel or Platinum?

 
 By: Clueless_Collector : August 14th, 2021-19:27
Most of us know Stainless Steel Patek Philippe are relatively small production ~20%? Do we know about Platinum? I think or feel Pt are equally if not rarer than SS, eg, for the 5196P vs the limited 300pc 5565A, same 215 movement which will you choose? Wit...  

5196P all the way!

 
 By: amanico : August 14th, 2021-20:38

+1, agree with Nico here Raymond 😉

 
 By: holdemchamp1225 : August 15th, 2021-10:58

Thank you Justin.

 
 By: Clueless_Collector : August 15th, 2021-15:47

Neither

 
 By: chintu : August 14th, 2021-20:55
Neither of the models have much to offer except an old workhorse ( though reliable) small sized 21.9mm caliber 215 cased in steel or precious metal. Of course the models being considered by you are limited by production numbers. The 215 may be replaced by... 

That’s a good input too but…

 
 By: Clueless_Collector : August 14th, 2021-21:08
There are some who likes older watches too, no? If older workhorses are not desirable, why would vintage watches get the attention when most new movements are usually evolving from continuous improvements? Of courses, watches is not just about movements a... 

All good things must come to an end 😜

 
 By: Clueless_Collector : August 14th, 2021-22:37
Just like the 5711 and many other models along the years. These are in the catalog for how many, 20 years?

since 2004 if memory serves me well

 
 By: Reuven Malter : August 14th, 2021-22:47

Yes, you have great memory 👍🏻

 
 By: Clueless_Collector : August 15th, 2021-00:04

Platinum for me

 
 By: orangedial : August 15th, 2021-00:03
I believe 5196P is already an iconic Calatrava watch. It looks so balanced and classy on and off the wrist. I haven't seen a 5565A in metal but on pictures it has a more ordinary look comparatively. It won't go wrong if you have the chance to buy both!

I also have a preference on Platinum…

 
 By: Clueless_Collector : August 15th, 2021-01:00
Which is why I got it. I probably won’t be getting both since it is similar and will be redundant to me. Thanks for your reply.

Let me also cast a vote for the 5196P here, already a classic Patek reference which, with the heft of Platinum, I do find even more special (irrespective of production numbers ;-)

 
 By: FabR : August 15th, 2021-10:39
As for retiring the 5196 line, I'd probably wait on the next "new generation," 6xxx Pateks to be announced....the Calatrava collection is currently undergoing a pretty significant transition, and the 5196 has been chosen among the few 5xxx references to s... 

I’m curious why they discontinued the 5296x line?

 
 By: Clueless_Collector : August 15th, 2021-15:45
The 215 PS is also outdated by today’s standard so let’s see what happens next year. Ah, those 5088 rare handcrafts…I can only drool and dream. Thanks for the vote. My 5196P says Thank you! 😊

Interesting comparison and both have

 
 By: GLau : August 15th, 2021-14:33
similar design but yet so different! 5196P is classy and classic ! If it discontinues, the replacement has to be even better than 6119 !

Both does have similar designs to put in the 6…

 
 By: Clueless_Collector : August 15th, 2021-16:25
Thanks for your input, Gordon…looks like my 5196P is a keeper.