Patek Philippe

So we’ve seen lots of fire on recent Antiquorum auction. Sounds like GP received green 5711 from his mom, but this is quite an exception. So I was curious. What is general criteria for qualification for allocation of green 5711? 10 PP watches? No resell h... 

Great if you could provide more information about yourself and your interests.

I am a Patek enthusiast in Japan. Yes it is very competitive and hard to obtain any RoyalOaks Daytonas and Nautiluses here as well.

It's a simple answer to this simple question. You have to be deemed worthy. Either the authorized dealer has already received a lot of business from you or they expect to receive a lot of business from you. That's it. And yes, of course if you're a known ... 

Your answer very much cleared up my mind. He has to be a perfect client, I understood.

My AD got 2 green 5711. I would say I’m a very good customer. Perpetual calendar good. However- a perpetual calendar is not as good of a customer as a minute repeater.

Minute repeater equals 3 perpetual calendars so to speak?? Such a long way to Rome..

I have a very good rapport with my AD. Have been invited to Geneva, New York etc. I asked about the 5711 green. He looked me in the eye and said- what am I supposed to do? Say no you can’t have a watch to the guy that spent 1.5 million with me last year??... 

Oogh, such a pain. I agree, another shining toy might be coming. As Mr. Stern mentioned as “another bomb”, and JZ on Instagram said red dial.. who knows???

Your AD will just receive a certain number of them (ranging from 0 to very few units), and then try to make some of his/her best clients happy, among those who care about a 5711....that's pretty much it ;-) Hope you have a great time on WatchProSite!

Got it. Some say the piece was upgraded to an allocation piece, but who knows🤷‍♂️

However, let me call it a "no-mistake piece," if you will....since allocation by an AD to a flipper will almost surely result in Patek terminating its relationship with that AD ;-)

Unobtainable either way, but thank you 🤦‍♂️

I am a good customer ( one watch from PP per year at least) My AD received only one that was allocated to a friend and I was really happy for him. The AD told me that he got 10 requests that were sent to PP in Geneva and they replied with one name… I star... 

I still wouldn't call this an "application piece", and I'm pretty sure your AD could have just assigned it to whichever customer they wanted also in your region. But to have Patek (at whichever level) give input on or "filter" a short list of top names, a... 

The UK distributer considered the names submitted by the AD

So I’m not surprised should they *require* an AD to clear a customer’s name with them first, even for a 5711 (though frankly I wasn’t aware of this practice)...then for the UK, if this is now the case, this would certainly be what I also call an applicati... 

I got it. I wonder this potential allocation upgrade is worldwide or not.

A friend of mine was allocated a piece. The family has been collecting PP with the AD for three generations.

Wow I have to get married and make kids first.. Thank you for valuable advice!

and what that would require

Yes..they are stamped with the Tiffany stamp. But very very few…

FabR says it's not an "allocation piece". Saz implies it is. I couldn't get one. I have some friends who are major collectors who didn't either (different dealers). For what it's worth, Sylvester Stallone and Mark Wahlberg both got the diamond green Nauti...