Patek Philippe

to notice today that one of the six lucky owners of the Grandmaster Chime has decided to sell his watch. While browsing a popular used website, I could not help but notice the £11.7 million plus price tag being asked for which is almost 5 times the origin...  

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were among the best Patek clients who would be pretty well heeled so I cannot imagine any of them needing the money. And if the owner did pass away, I would have thought the watch would be passed on to the next generation. I suppose the beneficiary of the... 

but perhaps it should pass at least over one generation?!

and this expensive passion of ours!

Maybe not every Patek bought will be passed down to the next generation but one would have hoped that the lucky owners of the Grandmaster Chime would observe this tradition. Your dad did!

I'm just curious, whether there was an special event for these best clients or the units were delivered individually. Thanks!

Also known as the idiot. 🤣🤣🤣

In that I am the only one who would keep a 5175R rather than sell it given half a chance. I might not wear it but I would definitely keep it to admire!

would be coveted by the majority of us for what it represents.

The idiot sheep is the one who squanders everything away.

but unfortunately in my family, the bad sheep is the one who buys too many watches!!

I can almost guaranteed the sales will not happen!

can be quite heavy!

Fair price then

At that price, they should hand deliver it to any part of the world for free or at least offer to arrange a private jet for you to collect the watch. That is afterall the Patek way!

I'm a little hesitant to post this because this could give bad souls good ideas... Iinitially I thought: All that vetting, and just a couple years later it's sold on "that" website. It's obvious that it's someone who doesn't know what he's doing to sell s... 

Quite odd also that this watch is being sold by an Australian dealer. I am not implying that an Australian used dealer is not qualified to sell this watch but one would have thought it that if this was a genuine advertisement that it would be sold in the ... 

I'd think the six owners (if it is truly only six) are clustered in those regions as well. Six is really an incredibly low number. Definitely hand picked by the Sterns themselves.

But I understand that there are two prominent Patek collectors in Thailand so one has missed out!

But to be chosen by the Stern family as a worthy appreciator of Patek Philippe timepieces, that'd be a great honor! I'd be honored just to be considered!

It would be like being nominated for an Oscar!

maybe YOU are the one just testing the waters on this watch ? OK, I guess not - it was just an idea. Cheerfully, Cazalea

I still find Tesla's price change of their Model 3 from $45,000 to $46,000 somewhat unethical. The car was released for five days and the price has already changed? Give me a break!

Perhaps someone made a typo error between the 5 and 6 and it had to be corrected.

Price came out at $45,000. Then 5 days later... Price was $46,000.

not jump to conclusions without knowing the background story of why the owner wants to sell. Hopefully it is not simply for a profit if the owner does not really need the extra millions. BTW, I do not think it could sell for 5x original price.

could be sold for 5 times the original retail price!! okay, okay I am being too greedy here, I would settle for 4 times the original retail price!!

The asking price is quite ludicrous considering a not too dissimilar 6300G is currently in production. But I am wondering who in their right sense of mind decided on the asking price and if the advertisement was genuine, what was the end target price that... 

approach owners to ask them to sell ? Alternatively I am watching and reading too many spy and conspiracy movies and novels ?

who ended up with a watch like the 5175R would be kept highly confidential. We know of one fellow purist who has one but only because the watch was shown in the forum. I can only guess who the other five lucky owners were. And yes, you are reading too man... 

But this Australian dealer might sell his own list. Unless he signs a contract with every prospective buyer or has a Privacy Policy. Legally, he could sell the list.

Seller wants to compile a list of wealthy watch collectors accustomed to overpaying for watches. This list alone is worth something. Google spends all day compiling lists and databases that are then sold to advertisers who want to target a specific segmen... 

but I seriously doubt anyone in the market for a grandmaster chime would pay that amount of money and therefore, would not contact the dealer in the first place.

Ian Fleming intended James Bond to wear a Rolex Submariner, not an Omega. And James Bond was supposed to drive a Bentley, not an Aston Martin.

as it helped Aston survive but saying that, it means the DB5 has become quite unaffordable. In fact all the DBs from the 50s and 60s seem to have no upper price ceiling. As for Rolex, I dare say if James had been wearing a Submariner, it would be competin... 

Seventh time is the charm! In the Sean Connery James Bond films, Bond does wear a Rolex Submariner!

until the product placement by Omega!

People who worked in the movie product placement business (but not specifically for the James Bond movie) told me that EON Productions (movie company) tried to make it accurate by including the Rolex; Rolex wouldn't loan or gift the movie producers a watc... 

I have learned something new!

With a charismatic leader who has not been shy saying he wants to bring Aston Martin to a new segment of women buyers, a new designer, and a fresh product line; Aston Martin has gone public. After being a company that has gone bankrupt seven times. This p... 

I certainly hope not, at least not during my life time. I would miss the sound of the V8 or V12 burbling away at idle. How did we manage to move from the Grandmaster Chime to Aston Martin??!!

That's the beauty of this forum Patrick!!



at 47mm plus and is more a demonstration of Patek's technical prowess especially in the field of minute repetition and grand sonnerie. Still, it would be nice to know that the owners did wear their watches at least on very special occasions.

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Spoilt for choice!!! To see one is amazing, to see two is almost unfair to the eyes

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Way too much at 4am in Kuala Lumpur!! Am I dreaming???!!!

I believe I read it in a watch magazine. Now 100 % sure however. Can anybody confirm this?

In the words of John McEnroe 'You cannot be serious!!'

Back during 2016 US election there was an article in Forbes magazine which picked a watch which they thought would fit the personality of each presidential thought that The grand master chime would be fitting for candidate Trump. I guess big ego equals b... 

If size matters, he should be walking around with a U Boat watch!

So six owners but there are eight Grandmasters listed on that website. hmmmm

there were only six 5175Rs produced for the 175th anniversary of Patek Philippe in 2014. The 6300G that you see on the website came out later and is not a limited edition watch although it is an application piece ie Patek would vet each and every potentia... 

there were only six 5175Rs produced for the 175th anniversary of Patek Philippe in 2014. The 6300G that you see on the website came out later and is not a limited edition watch although it is an application piece ie Patek would vet each and every potentia... 

My bad. tnx for clarification!

Seven were produced, one for the museum and six for sale. I tend not to count the one that is not for sale!

Let's just respect the collector's move to sell. At one point in time. He had the privilege of owning a very complicated Patek. Cheers to all. 😅 Geross

but this is THE Grandmaster Chime, one of the most special wrist watches ever made. I personally feel that if the collector had wanted to sell it, he should have offered it to Patek first as the company had given him the privilege to acquire it. Assuming ... 

Now there's one available for you!

The watch is arguably 10mm too large but hey, a great piece nevertheless to ogle at. I need a lawyer's income!!!

You just need to be quick.

£11.7m though is a bit over my budget

Maybe you're not understanding what I'm suggesting.

is obviously in a different league from mine!

I doubt with Mike around if we are going to get any wrist time or any time with the watch!!! He might however reward us with one of his Richard Lange Pour Le Merite (he has two!!! )

The case engraving and the lugs extended from the case just don't do it for me. Would have been more interesting to see the watch with all these complications in a simple elegant case. S

The 6300G with no hand engravings ...  

That does look much better, actually its very nice, never saw it before. Thank you again for sharing that. S

It is a quite amazing watch and I am glad Patek added this to its regular range even if the waiting list is many years long and via application only.

And I am very much like you as I too am happy and blessed with the few watches that I already own

but sometimes life forces us to do things for our continued existence. Regardless of how much money a person may have , this is a lot of money to have tied up in a watch and perhaps in this case it needed to be put to better use.

but there are four watches in the history of watch making that have been allocated to some very special collectors, many of whom are probably worth more than we can count. These four watches are not quite priceless but their complexities and exclusitivity... 

The one you saw earlier for $14.8M is still up, and now there's also one from a HK dealer for $13.7M... I never received a $1.1M discount in my life, so I'll probably buy the second just to see how it feels.

The smartest of these 5531 sellers (who's, of course, also selling a 5175) is the one that mixes pics of the NYC LE with the Lake Geneva edition... sad! ;-)

because people will just blacklist these sellers when they find out that they do not have alleged watches.

This gives a whole new meaning to buying on the internet!!

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Why not??!! And on chrono24 of all places!!

Collectors selling there special pieces,Specially when it’s done when done twice it’s much worse,I recall you sold your 5575G and 5131R (Sealed) .Correct me if I am wrong please.

I loved my 5575G but most unfortunately, the watch was accidentally scratched by a friend's diamond ring and it was never the same afterwards. The 5575G remains my all time favourite world timer due to its enchanting moon and I would even consider buying ... 

As well.I am in no place to judge either you or him/her !

I think firstly it is worth mentioning that this watch is being advertised for more than 5 times its RRP which is quite astonishing by any standards as the watch is four years old at most. Secondly is the fact that this watch is being sold on the internet... 

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An unofficial world record if it actually sold at that price!

FAKE post !

The Grandmaster Chime is an amazing watch but $50m is a huge amount of money even for this masterpiece.

based on CBB's confirmation in her latest post.

We are speaking of a real milestone in the history of not only Patek but all of horology, so I badly hope all six of these 5175 will never change hands! ;-) Cheers.

correctly !

If any other owner of a 5175 had their pictures stolen by criminals and is reading this thread, they are of course most welcome to contact us, so to clear their name and prevent any innocent third parties from getting scammed👍 Cheers.