Patek Philippe

The night 5370P No words needed as I’m still collecting my jaw This is what sex on a strap looks like ...  

Congratulations 🥳

But pleasurable experience nonetheless

Way too large for me when I tried it on at the Patek Salon two weeks ago. Well done on acquiring a sublime watch!

It’s for a friend of mine

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I wish I could claim it’s ownership specially as mentioned it has been discontinued

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and without Lume hands, this will be my ultimate grail. Right now my grail Patek is either 3448, 5959 or 5004. 2499 is non achievable.

and for me it was at the edge of the size I prefer to wear. But it was perfectly acceptable on my 7.25" wrist. And it is indeed a beauty : )

If I have a 7.25" wrist, many contemporary watches will be perfect size for me. Even the vintage small watches will look good and refine on a big wrist. Sigh.

I don't mind wearing 'small' watches, but I do value thin watches, or at least those that have an appropriate hight to width ratio. Some of the older complications are very thick imho....too much for a 'dress' watch. When spending this kind of $ it is alw... 

its not single its multiple on a strap

Change the dial and hands and there you have a grail. Good job we all hunt different grails. Great case and movement though. Hope your friend finds years of pleasure with his watch. M.

IMO that is. M.

I really wanted to love this piece and have tried it on multiple times... but it just doesn't fit well on my wrist. A 47mm Greubel Forsey looks better on my wrist than this 5370P... it's just an unusual fit. If it was 2mm smaller with an improved lug desi... 

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It’s thicker but smaller diameter

Now you’ve got me because there are only 2-3 Patek models I really like and this is one of them. If I’m not mistaken this one still has the Lemania movement doesn’t ? It looks stunning. I know of only one brand who has such a similar real black dial with ... 

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Make it feel a bit stacked and weird looking on my wrist

I made this assumption too when I looked at them in pictures, but found a world of difference in the metal. The 5370P has a lot of wrist presence as well as intricate details that one only appreciates in person.

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5204 is an awesome watch but I am not a fan of the upside down moon phase and squashed numerals on the 5204. I prefer the 5372P

If I could upload the images I would. 🤔

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I recall an author mentioning the black enamel dial of 5370P is "darker than the Satan's basement"! I hope they come up with a 5370P with a blue enamel dial and Breguet numerals.

Spot on description

Really changes the look...makes it seem sportier. On the lume issue, I don’t mind it at all. White gold hands can get lost on a black dial...the lume makes it very easy to read. And a split-second chrono is the definition of a ‘sporty’ watch.

The aesthetics of this watch are amazing. The 5970P as nice as it is looks not nearly as beautiful when you look at them both together. The 5370P introduction was simply very bad timing. It was introduced at a time when the world was moving away from dres... 

For a second I thought the 5370P had been discontinued and I just hadn't heard about it. But, I checked Patek's website, and it's still there, so as far as I know it has not been discontinued (either that or they haven't gotten around to updating their we... 

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That particular estimate is the highest I've seen so far for it. Over the years I recall postings to this message board and others providing other estimates. I wish Patek would simply disclose the actual number.

You posted that many have been made. I thought that split second chronograph are rare. Enamel dials are rare. A watch with both should be rare, especially for a PP.

It just seems that way since there are always many on Chrono 24.

As to numbers, only Patek know, but there are currently 16 5970P's on Chrono24 and 16 5370P's. This suggests far fewer 5370P's were made as it hasn't yet moved to the collector market when the number of advertised pieces for sale decreases.

I found it irritating that Patek kept on making them when obviously the fact that there are always many for sale on Chrono 24 means that the market already has more 5370Ps than it can absorb. Right now, while dress watches have fallen out of favor, I expe... 

An R is coming for 2020 and I recently saw a pre release photo of another white metal version - probably another P with a white enamel dial.... or was it an A? Ha! That would be something....

Nice....Heard a white gold / blue dial as well.

I am surprised that this is not the case here.

The "last 50" of 5004 were steel.

Then in other metals. The 5204 did not have a G. Just P and R. I think we will have a 5370R and a 5370G this year. Maybe a limited A for a final run after 3-5 years?

I am not sure whether the white metals are P or G. I was told it is extremely hard to make a blue enamel dial so I am not sure whether they would release a blue enamel dial similar to that of 5539G

It seems like an overkill. The R is definitely happening. As for a second white metal version, it should be another P, with white dial. A third white metal version in G? If it happens, then the G will have a blue dial as you say. I would prefer a - very -... 

The piece is also produced in the high grand comps dept so by the top tear of watchmakers. 5270 is not double assembled.

I also think it would be an overkill if they release all 3 new variations at the same time. They have done a 5950/1A and a 5950A so we may also see a 5370A in future.

However, after reading these posts, I looked up the after market values, I cannot understand what is the reason for the low values. Are Patek complications that are application pieces not so collectible anymore?