Patek 2017

Mar 24, 2017,08:09 AM
 

Hi guys

I'm pretty happy with Patek's leases this year.
My blue dial full steel 5726 Nautilus still remains a dream but Patek fulfilled another with the blue dial aquanaut sorry still need to get use to the ref no.
I think they did an accelerant job with the 20th anniversary for the aquanaut.
I really like the look of the 5230 and can't wait to see in the metal.I am also looking forward to seeing the 5372 salmon dial.Need to see if it is salmon or another shade .

My wish list from this years releases is the aquanaut advanced research ,the 5168 and the 5320.
With regards the two 5960 that were released I prefer the white dial to the black but then I'm been biased because I have the white.White looks sportier which suits me.
As for the 5960G i have on order the 5524 which I prefer and are similar in colour.

With regards to some of the other releases I think there may be some collectors that may be upset as some models that were very limited and exclusive have now been brought into normal production.
The 5271 range and nautilus 5723 range and also the 5960G which if I'm not mistaken is similar to the previous P model .

Just my 2c worth of input.


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[Baselworld 2017] The Patek Philippe 2017 novelties

 
 By: Mark in Paris : March 22nd, 2017-05:20
Dear all, Patek Philippe has just unveiled the new 2017 collection! As usual, we’ll all discover what we might have expected or sometimes be surprised by unplanned models. This will be the appetizers before we can handle them and make our final opinion. T...  

Big thumbs up for

 
 By: crown comfort : March 22nd, 2017-05:47
the new 5320G and the 5372! The 5170P could have been a close contender as the new 5070P if they would have left out the diamond markers Overall, I like the subtle evolution of the line-up. CC

I think they may find back their place in watchmaking

 
 By: Mark in Paris : March 22nd, 2017-07:17
but all depends how it is done, where we'll see them etc... We'll need another 5 or 10 years to find out. In the mean time, there are references I would have prefered without them too. Best, Mark

I have the same feeling Joe [nt]

 
 By: Mark in Paris : March 22nd, 2017-07:14

Salute for the watches you just bought,Joe

 
 By: beejo : March 22nd, 2017-07:38
Nothing in this catalogue come close to both of the 5370P and the 5131R. Best, Ahmed

The 5320 is indeed a very nice surprise

 
 By: Mark in Paris : March 22nd, 2017-06:40
I like the way it seems to work very much and I'm looking forward to see it in the metal. I like the 5170P a lot. However, I still don't know what to think about the diamond markers. Will they leave this old look we have from the 1980's watches and be abl... 

some definite gems

 
 By: marco327 : March 22nd, 2017-05:54
The 5320 feels fresh and very interesting, reminds me a little bit of this watch The 5372 is a special watch hands down, otherwise the 5170P with the new dial also looks superb, a bit ambivalent on the diamonds even if Patek has stuck diamonds on platinu... 

Yes indeed, the dial layout is coming from the 1526 reference

 
 By: Mark in Paris : March 22nd, 2017-06:44
That makes this 5320 very different from the 5327. The 5372 looks very nice too, especially since we know how beautiful the case is. I like the 5170P a lot. This is the kind of dial decoration I like. Thanks for sharing your opinion Best, Mark

My first thoughts...

 
 By: keks : March 22nd, 2017-06:01
I really enjoy this years newcomer lineup. The following stand out as very welcome additions: - 5650G. Looks amazing and finally to have these innovations in a sportier watch. Perfect way to celebrate Aquanaut 20th! Would have preferred it in steel, or ev... 

I feel like...

 
 By: Chimaera : March 22nd, 2017-06:09
....a diner in a Michelin started restaurant who ordered the tasting menu, and every single dish arrived at the same moment. Need time to take all of this in, but thank you (as ever) Mark for setting the tone.

True!

 
 By: Mark in Paris : March 22nd, 2017-07:02
Indeed, there are quite some references to have a look at. Take your time and it will be nice to have your opinion. Thank you Chimaera. Best, Mark

5650

 
 By: willski : March 22nd, 2017-06:19
Haven\'t seen pictures of this yet - where can I find them?

Never mind - found them.

 
 By: willski : March 22nd, 2017-06:51
Interesting watch.

So do I

 
 By: Mark in Paris : March 22nd, 2017-06:59
I particularly like also the fact the Advanced Research experience is placed in a contemporary watch like the Aquanaut. I don't know in what material the 5650 will be proposed (the 5168 is in white gold). I think the 42mm size will fit perfectly the Aquan... 

5650G in wg;) [nt]

 
 By: keks : March 22nd, 2017-08:02

Thanks keks :) [nt]

 
 By: Mark in Paris : March 22nd, 2017-08:58

Same first thought on the 5960G

 
 By: alphabeta81 : March 22nd, 2017-07:55
Looks BETTER than the moscow, the varnish dial works better than sunburst, and the hands are much better too.

Love the 5170P

 
 By: ambel : March 22nd, 2017-06:08
In dec 2015 asked my AD to put me on the list if it ever comes out. Must be the first to have asked, so who knows...

That's maybe my favorite this year

 
 By: Mark in Paris : March 22nd, 2017-07:04
I still have to check the markers to be sure. The dial is fantastic. Best, Mark

I was so much looking forward to the 5131P

 
 By: beejo : March 22nd, 2017-06:35
But the bracelet turned me off,Now I want the R,Don\'t know if they discontinued it. Best, Ahmed

Thanks Mark.

 
 By: beejo : March 22nd, 2017-07:33
Now I need some luck hmm...and money of course Best, Ahmed

The 5960 white dial has something very unique and cool in the "sporty" line-up

 
 By: Mark in Paris : March 22nd, 2017-07:08
The black one is between the classical ones and the white dial I think. I agree with you on the 5131's bracelet. I'm glad for the people who enjoy it that way but I would have prefered a strap too. What do you think of the 5170P? Thanks for your feedback ... 

5170p absolutely spectacular

 
 By: keks : March 25th, 2017-07:08
Judging by photos at least. That dial is sublime and the baguette indices are tastefully applied. All in all the first 5170 I really think is extraordinary. A variety I would have loved to see in this would be a light brown dial, similar to the one used i...  

Cldr

 
 By: Gelato Monster : March 22nd, 2017-19:27
I think 5320 is nicer than 5960

Thanks Mark!

 
 By: sham1 : March 22nd, 2017-06:30
The 5320G is a lovely looking watch but I wish the diameter was 38mm and not 40mm. Also the use of the 324SC movement, as reliable as it is, is not as pretty as the 240 movement. The 5372P-010 is a winner and at 38.3mm is a technological marvel. Although ... 

Thank you! [nt]

 
 By: sham1 : March 22nd, 2017-07:31

I agree Sham

 
 By: Mark in Paris : March 22nd, 2017-09:46
The 40mm 5320 is indeed another offer next to the 5327 in 39mm. I think they wish to propose something for people finding 38 or 39mm are too small for their wrist and taste. What you say about the 5372 is very true. By the way, it is important to have a l... 

The following are my initial thoughts.

 
 By: Ouroboros : March 22nd, 2017-07:07
I got really excited when I saw 5168G, until I noticed the increased size which doesn't include the crown. The dimensions of its brother in steel (5167) is already optimal, so I don't see any need or purpose by bulking up their sports watches. I would hav... 

Yes, this new collection brings quite very interesting things

 
 By: Mark in Paris : March 22nd, 2017-09:58
About the 5168, the dimensions are a tough issue to deal with. Some clients have a big wrist and 40mm watches are much too small, especially when considering a sporty version. Of course someone with a normal or small wrist will not like that. This is very... 

3 in the spotlight!

 
 By: RGS : March 22nd, 2017-07:32
The 5960/01G will be a VERY interesting reference. Aesthetically it pairs well with the 5524G and i see a small "family' of watches being created there. The sporty, modern Patek Complication (brown calf leather straps, blue dials, white metal). The 5168G ... 

5990 variety ;)

 
 By: keks : March 22nd, 2017-08:21
...  

Oh!

 
 By: RGS : March 22nd, 2017-08:41
Ok! Thanks...

I didn't know what to think about it at first

 
 By: Mark in Paris : March 22nd, 2017-10:10
The 5960 is a model I like a lot. The problem is that the Pt version is a little too heavy for my taste and was looking at the other versions. This one is bringing the 5960 in a very nice casual way. I didn't know what to think from the official pictures ... 

5178 steals the show for me - here is why

 
 By: alphabeta81 : March 22nd, 2017-08:01
5078 is 38mm and 5178 is 40mm, same hands, same applied breguets. Same watch but just bigger, right? NOPE The 5178 has cathedral gongs! Patek did this for the 5079 but it was a big watch at 42mm, and with a thick bezel. (I believe the 5079 is the only tim... 

Thanks for your valuable input

 
 By: Mark in Paris : March 22nd, 2017-10:18
This is indeed much more than a size change and will be a very nice characteristic for the happy clients so as for people who enjoy the brand's history and know-how. I must say I don't know much about the older Minute-Repeater versions, thanks for sharing... 

No No No No!!!!!

 
 By: Miles_151 : March 22nd, 2017-08:09
I am still trying to take it in. I\'m not sure yet how I feel but initially my heart sank. In a way I am relieved as there is not one watch I will be loosing sleep over. For me personally I\'m so disappointed with the 5178 whilst it is a step closer for m... 

Miles, so right on much of this.

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : March 22nd, 2017-08:25
I think there are some winners in the Patek line up but not necessarily watches that fit my collection. One or two possible. But on Rolex. Yep..... midfield dribbled the ball from own half, rounded 3 defenders, took the goalie out and crossed the ball for... 

Im pretty dure the 5320 Will look great irl

 
 By: Bruno.M1 : March 22nd, 2017-08:31
Give it a chance 5170p is very nice,,,,, but Nothing Will ever beat the 5070 lol

Agreed my friend. [nt]

 
 By: Miles_151 : March 22nd, 2017-08:42

I agree Bruno

 
 By: Mark in Paris : March 22nd, 2017-10:42
We can see some live pictures of these two references now (Magnus posted some) and it looks much more interesting than on the official pictures, especially for the PC. Best, Mark

Well, this is always a tricky subject Miles

 
 By: Mark in Paris : March 22nd, 2017-10:40
Is evolution done the right way or not, the sizes also are a subjective matter etc... Hence, it is very difficult to consider if something is really a mistake or if it is just something we don't like because it is not our taste. Some people don't like Sal... 

Mark. Thank you for your reply which is far more articulate than my clumsy post.

 
 By: Miles_151 : March 22nd, 2017-13:53
I agree with everything you say and agree that sometimes watches are growers rather than showers but in my experience not very often. The 5070 is my only experience of a watch that didn\'t make me go weak when I set eyes on it. So you are right time may c... 

No problem Miles, it is nice to have sincere opinions people are also looking for

 
 By: Mark in Paris : March 22nd, 2017-15:36
Looking at novelties with such 5070 and 5970 of yours is quite a challenge Enjoy them and the evolution may come when it is time. The most important is to enjoy the ones we have. Best, Mark

Thank you Mark.

 
 By: Miles_151 : March 23rd, 2017-01:23
But in the mean time I will continue to be guided through this hobby of ours by pure gut wrenching feeling. M.

One of the best!!

 
 By: sham1 : March 22nd, 2017-08:26
Patek collections in recent years!! Well done Patek!!

Really??? Isn't it great we all see things so differently.

 
 By: Miles_151 : March 22nd, 2017-08:42
I would actually go 180 degrees and say it\'s the worst I\'ve ever seen. Maybe I expect too much. Maybe Patek feel a bit like Elizabeth Taylor\'s last husband......"He knew exactly what to do just didn\'t know how to make it different" M.

LoL [nt]

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : March 22nd, 2017-09:01

Thought you might appreciate that J.

 
 By: Miles_151 : March 22nd, 2017-09:08
Lunch soon??? M

Really MIles?! :-)

 
 By: sham1 : March 22nd, 2017-10:47
You are a man who I respect and admire for your immaculate taste in watches. So if you are seeing things quite differently, maybe I am missing something and will have to have a more careful examination when I have an appointment to view the new collection... 

Thank you for the respect shout my friend. And please let me know what the 5170 and 5178 are like in the flesh.

 
 By: Miles_151 : March 22nd, 2017-11:07
And as I said earlier it\'s a good job we are all different. I stand by my statement. I have a huge love, respect and adoration for all things Patek however rightly or wrongly I have always known instantly when a watch calls to me and I have a gut feeling... 

Now the 5178 in Rose and ivory dial. Now that will be something.

 
 By: Miles_151 : March 22nd, 2017-11:17
Fingers crossed for 2018. M

Hi Sham, when and where is the MR sound testing being held ?

 
 By: GLau : March 24th, 2017-05:03
Hope all is well and I await your wrist shots of your 5131R ! LOL ! Cheers, Gordon

There are some very attracting pieces indeed

 
 By: Mark in Paris : March 22nd, 2017-10:44
I'm eager to see them in the metal, especially the 5320G, the 5170P, the 5168G as I think the combination will work very well. I don't think I'll see the Grandes Complications though :p Best, Mark

5170P

 
 By: Arie - Mr Orange : March 22nd, 2017-10:28
I\'m not a fan of diamond markers perse but they wouldn\'t bother me in this case at all. Very beautiful watch.

I agree.

 
 By: Mark in Paris : March 22nd, 2017-15:39
The 5170P has a gorgeous dial (I like the scale and the way it is decorated) and I must say the diamond markers work well here. Best, Mark

5320G of course

 
 By: ch9698 : March 22nd, 2017-11:38
with these superb art deco horns Mark, your perpetual dream concerning the 5960P will continue

It looks very promising indeed

 
 By: Mark in Paris : March 22nd, 2017-16:17
I like its style a lot and I think it shows a part of the brand's future. Yes CH', the 5960's choice is a very long journey. Best, Mark

The 5131 P is very clever from Patek to combine it with a p-bracelet and the 5170 p with diamonds, for same reasons:

 
 By: COUNT DE MONET : March 22nd, 2017-11:47
If you want one you pay handsomely for it. The 5131 seems to look fantastic with the birds eye view over the pole. The 5320 will look too big. A big, big shame: a 40 mm Patek is not classic anymore and not a Patek anymore? The 5170 p seems to be another f... 

I had the same thoughts

 
 By: Mark in Paris : March 22nd, 2017-16:34
Especially when the 40th anniversary Nautilus was released. The price and decoration choice is also a way to say to clients, if you want it you have to pay a certain price that will make a quick re sell difficult. On the other hand, I think I would differ... 

My first impression is that I'm a little underwhelmed.

 
 By: RussW : March 22nd, 2017-11:55
I don\'t think it\'s a bad collection by any means but I feel like there are a few missed opportunities. The 5171p is nice, but I would have loved breguet numerals. The aquanaut travel time - great to see more results from Advanced Research, and quite fit... 

Thanks for your feedback Russ

 
 By: Mark in Paris : March 23rd, 2017-15:11
It is interesting to see how different the new models are seen on the forum. I have the same feeling on the 5650's dial. As for the 5960/1A, I don't think they will provide a strap version as it will have a quite negative impact on the value of all the br... 

I learned something from my Nautilus 40th Anniversary comments:

 
 By: dr.kol : March 22nd, 2017-12:01
I will have on Saturday 1.5 hours with a private meeting room and the whole collection. Will comment earliest on Sunday. Best, Kari

Patek

 
 By: uaewatchguy : March 22nd, 2017-12:27
Can\'t wait for your opinion Kari. Iqbal

Congratulations In advance Kari. Which one did you choose?

 
 By: RussW : March 22nd, 2017-15:42
Can I guess - the aquanaut travel time?

Make a guess.

 
 By: dr.kol : March 22nd, 2017-15:43
I'll buy at leat one but not more than three plus one for my wife. Best, Kari

Loving the Arctic, that's a good guess.

 
 By: dr.kol : March 22nd, 2017-15:55
However, it is wrong. The dial is fantastic but nobody probably want to have the bracelet. It's just a way to push the price up and I do not really appreciate such a philosophy. Patek knows what the collectors and enthusiasts want and they should not be t... 

I have my 5070P London Edition on my wrist.

 
 By: dr.kol : March 22nd, 2017-16:13
Why on earth would I need an other chronograph and this time with diamonds? The blue-black dial is fantastic but... Best, Kari

That's a bloody good question!

 
 By: dr.kol : March 22nd, 2017-16:23
Or why would anybody need 3700-001 & 3700-011? Best, Kari

Kari

 
 By: ch9698 : March 22nd, 2017-23:26
We used to focus on same, so 5320G

5320 is a strong contender

 
 By: dr.kol : March 23rd, 2017-00:14
when it's coming in P. I have, just like you, both 5450P and 5550P. What would be the ideal travel watch? Best, Kari

Advanced research aquanaut?

 
 By: beejo : March 23rd, 2017-03:52
Best, Ahmed

Hi Kari, I guess that you will get the ...

 
 By: GLau : March 24th, 2017-05:20
7130G for your wife and the 5320 or 5372 salmon for yourself. Cheers, Gordon

Probably a perfect watch for my wife

 
 By: dr.kol : March 24th, 2017-11:07
For myself I am mostly interested in white metals excluding WG. Best, Kari

That shows how high our expectations are when dealing with Patek Philippe

 
 By: Mark in Paris : March 23rd, 2017-15:16
and it is also a field in which we want to get what we like, without compromise. That's perfectly natural. On the other hand, our tastes evolve and our way to see new things (not only in watchmaking) can be different depending on the point of view and how... 

Hi Kari, wish you lots of fun at the private viewing! Will you get a chance to hear the MRs?

 
 By: GLau : March 24th, 2017-05:16
If so, would you please let me know what you think of the cathedral gongs on the 5178 ? Also, please give your thoughts on the quality of the enamel dial on the 5131P. Many thanks, Gordon

For sure I will [nt]

 
 By: dr.kol : March 24th, 2017-11:05

Surprised by the black dial

 
 By: drphileasfogg : March 22nd, 2017-12:56
5960A, saw a real photo on Instagram, looks awesome, even with the bracelet. Disappointed by the 5230G: too big. But let\'s wait for the hands-on experience before ruling out anything. Best.

Yes indeed

 
 By: Mark in Paris : March 23rd, 2017-15:20
it is hard to have a definitive opinion from official pictures (and a few on the internet) but that grainy/mat black dial looks very nice and the watch with bracelet seems to look better in that version than the white one. I was surprised. Let's try them ... 

Nicely done

 
 By: w220 : March 22nd, 2017-16:20
Overall a strong presentation from Patek this year in my view. The 5320G is my clear favorite, although at 40mm it is larger than a 5146, so it may be a little on the large side. But it's hard to say without having seen the watch in person. Lots of very h... 

This 5320 seems to be very welcome indeed

 
 By: Mark in Paris : March 23rd, 2017-15:26
One of the novelties Purists are really willing to try on. The very complicated ones are a pleasure to admire and dream about even if not affordable indeed. I imgaine like some beautiful cars. I love that 5078/5178 dial Thanks for your feedback! Best, Mar... 

Calendar

 
 By: Gelato Monster : March 22nd, 2017-18:41
The 5320 is the nicest calendar from PP

Another vote for the new PC

 
 By: Mark in Paris : March 23rd, 2017-15:27
It is indeed a watch that many of us really want to see in real. Thanks for your input! Best, Mark

Ok her goes- obviously not haven seen the pieces IRL my comments are subject to change. Also my taste is vintage not new

 
 By: watch-guy.com : March 23rd, 2017-01:29
1. The standout is 5320 . Not sure if this a brand new movement or the auto 324 SQ( reworked 240 with large rotor?). Big size may be a negative. Love the case and the dial looks amazing - cream dial. Ode to 1526 and 3448 2. The 5131 and 5170 are not new j... 

Superbly put. My thoughts with your exceptional delivery.

 
 By: Miles_151 : March 23rd, 2017-01:36
You are bang on. Please someone explain to me. How is it that Rolex can produce a watch like the 6062 in the early 50\'s and nearly 70 years on with all modern watch making technology can only produce a simple moon phase like they have. Please someone is ... 

No....it is not you.

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : March 23rd, 2017-02:09
I think somewhere along the lines, about 5 years ago, someone decided to cut costs and fired the entire market research team.

Thank you J.

 
 By: Miles_151 : March 23rd, 2017-02:17
I\'m beginning to think it\'s me and I\'ve lost my mind. M.

Great first feedback

 
 By: Mark in Paris : March 23rd, 2017-15:45
It is interesting to read about Purists' perspective and how they interpret the novelties. The 5320's movement is the 324 caliber with a new PC module. Indeed the dial layout is something we talked about in the past and wished to see coming back in a PC f... 

cannot agree more [nt]

 
 By: serali : March 25th, 2017-20:43

A pretty good year

 
 By: Mr. M : March 23rd, 2017-12:32
I found 2016 quite a disappointment. 2017 much better, so my top 5 this year: My favorite is the 5078G, which I find to be the nicest variation of this reference so far, well done. 5316P a beautyful replacement of the 5216. 5372P-010 is amazing too, thank... 

We are of a similar mindest!

 
 By: sham1 : March 24th, 2017-05:49
My favourite watch is definitely the 5078G for all the reasons that you mentioned. I am also partial to the 5372P-010 and the 5171P. A few months back I managed to buy the last 5940G which I still feel is the most elegant of all the 5940s and it will be n... 

I'm glad you're enjoying the new collection

 
 By: Mark in Paris : March 24th, 2017-06:21
The 5372 has a lot of success, as the 5078 and 5178 references. I noticed also that the sizes, especially for very complicated models has been kept as low as possible. This is not the trend we've been seeing these last years from the watch sector. The 594... 

Never thought, this will happen!

 
 By: dom007 : March 24th, 2017-03:54
Patek just released my exit watch and I can't stop to dream... The 5372P (blue) is just perfect! All these complications with a case diameter of just 38.3 mm and the piece is still so slim... Incredible! Movement, Case, Dial everything impeccable! Never t... 

The 5372 is quite a different offer from your 5950

 
 By: Mark in Paris : March 24th, 2017-10:09
and a great theme so start around the Split-Second It is very successful indeed among Purists. The fact they keep such complicated watches in sucha small case is an achievement and and great choice imho. Thanks for sharing your feedback Dom! Best, Mark

Thank you Russ!

 
 By: dom007 : March 25th, 2017-03:25
With that stunning case and the blue dial, it's however for sure a serious contender...

Hi Mark, thanks for the post ! Overall I am...

 
 By: GLau : March 24th, 2017-05:34
happy with the line-up. For me, special mention goes to 5320, 5131P, and 5178G. 5320 because of its clean and very well balanced dial for a PC. 5131G because I love cloisonné enamel dials and because I had correctly guessed that the map would be the view ... 

It seems that many of the main novelties appeal to us

 
 By: Mark in Paris : March 24th, 2017-10:13
and that's not always easy to achieve. The 5320 from Magnus picture looks to be something very special and that I'm looking forward to try. The rare handcrafts and azulejos are really nice as well. Thanks for your input Gordon! Best, Mark

Patek 2017

 
 By: uaewatchguy : March 24th, 2017-08:09
Hi guys I\'m pretty happy with Patek\'s leases this year. My blue dial full steel 5726 Nautilus still remains a dream but Patek fulfilled another with the blue dial aquanaut sorry still need to get use to the ref no. I think they did an accelerant job wit... 

5131P

 
 By: uaewatchguy : March 24th, 2017-08:59
Sorry how could I forget about the 5131P. Personally I would have liked to have seen it on a navy strap but I do like it and would to pair it up with my 5131R . Iqbal

There are several new watches to expect in the future

 
 By: Mark in Paris : March 24th, 2017-15:21
and the 5726 blue dial is for sure one of them! I also think that the 5168G is a fantastic offer for this kind of watch. The colour will match very nicely the warmer white gold tone and the size will fit many larger wrists as well. I think that the 5320 e... 

The 5168G is winner in my books!

 
 By: BABKA : March 24th, 2017-14:43
I look forward to seeing that one in the metal! Thanks for sharing!

I agree!

 
 By: Mark in Paris : March 26th, 2017-14:21
I think it will look fantastic, the right size for many customers, a warm case hue, the blue dial and its lighter colour in the center... I'm sure it will be very successful. Thank you Babka! Best, Mark

Indeed!

 
 By: BABKA : March 27th, 2017-21:40
Thank YOU Mark!

Thank you Mark

 
 By: charcoal6666collector : April 4th, 2017-06:37
Really appreciate your sharing with us, although i have to say, this is the first time in my life that i honestly don't find any of the New 2017 Patek release attractive at all...... kinda ugly even....no offence

Thank you for your feedback

 
 By: Mark in Paris : April 4th, 2017-08:36
As I said to other members, the brand has known and created different periods in terms of style. Today, many of us are especially served and attracted by the 1990's and 2000's period. The world standards, the economy, the cultures, technologies evolve and...