More of the CB.

 By: Jay (Eire) : July 6th, 2019-00:13
My friend, who seems to know these things, says successful output of these dials is about 10 per month.  That’s not changed much for many years, it’s just unfortunately (for those without one) many many more people are now in search of the CB.  

For the benefit of the brand, and also for the the benefit of Journe collectors everywhere, I do hope the attention that the CB has brought to Journe leads to more broad interest in other pieces.  

I do wonder however how much this interest in the CB really plays through to other watches in the lineup.  The simple matter that the next piece in the collection in terms of price point is materially more expensive (at retail) makes me think the effect of the CB’s momentum is limited in terms of increased sales of other watches.  

Now that the watch is a$37000 watch we should find out if you’re right.

 By: TheMadDruid : July 6th, 2019-06:08
When the CB was an available entry-level piece it probably was the one Journe many collectors may have been satisfied adding to their collection. Now it costs as much as one or two other Journes new. Will collectors who have at least some interest in the brand look at other, less “distinctive “ pieces in the secondary market and then start to realize the diversity of the company; and the relative value of the many models? Last year’s Only Watch auction may also have raised desirability. 2020 should tell us.

I do wonder if the buyer of the CB is the same person that would (or could) buy a CS. The whole reason behind the CB pricing was to be an entry point, and I think many might have seen the CB as their only Journe. [nt]

 By: Jay (Eire) : July 10th, 2019-04:13
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Good question!

 By: Spangles - Mr. Tabby : July 6th, 2019-08:42
Anecdotally, I've heard folks looking a lot harder at the CS as a result of interest which was initially piqued by the CB. So, perhaps the CB's popularity is drawing in some beneficial interest for the brand. The CS and octa automatique and automatique lume are really fine watches, either with clou de Paris or frosted gold dials.

ten or fifteen years ago

 By: ChristianDK : July 6th, 2019-13:57
or about that time - the CS was getting a LOT of attention by the broader community just like the Richard Lange. Those where two finest manufacture chronometers you could buy. You can find lots of old discussions on several fora froma that time with CS versus RL. Time has just passed and the CS has been forgotten a bit since it is old news now. However, I would love to see it get a revival and the attention it deserves. 

According to the folks at FPJ

 By: cmmnsens : July 8th, 2019-16:36
The CS and Elegante are seeing some serious demand right now. Demand is starting to exceed supply.

I heard that as well for the Elegante

 By: ChristianDK : July 8th, 2019-19:44
I’m so pleased to learn that it is the same for the CS. I consider it among some of FPJs finest work. A powerful piece achieved with relatively few means.

That is good to hear. [nt]

 By: Jay (Eire) : July 10th, 2019-04:10
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I agree the CS and the Octa are also great pieces, but at significantly higher entry point (retail pricing).

 By: Jay (Eire) : July 10th, 2019-04:15
I guess the CB popularity must have some positive impact on the other watches, I just wonder what that really is in terms of of actual sales.

I think that it is and will continue to [nt]

 By: stabilizer : July 6th, 2019-09:03
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Cool shot - where are you?

 By: ChristianDK : July 6th, 2019-13:50
about 10 per month is correct. However, that number has been reduced now.

Looks very like Hong Kong MTR to me! [nt]

 By: hub6152 : July 6th, 2019-20:30
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True :-) [nt]

 By: ChristianDK : July 6th, 2019-21:55
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Yes. MTR. [nt]

 By: Jay (Eire) : July 9th, 2019-17:36
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Great shot!

 By: Journe1304 : July 6th, 2019-14:35
What do you think about the fact that the CB now requires an application? When I heard that, I initially thought it was distasteful to do that to customers; if you have the money, what other evaluative process could a company reasonably go through before you’re ‘allowed’ to make a purchase? But after seeing the skyrocketing prices of some models out there (Nautilus, Aquanaut) and/or the availability of others in diamond district shops (BLNR, Hulk), it’s clear that the flippers who have run amok need to be cut off. I now think an application is a reasonable step to try to ensure that CBs only go to people who actually want them as watches as not as flip/investment opportunities. What do you think?

The reason you had to apply for it was because demand FAR exceeded production.

 By: TheMadDruid : July 6th, 2019-15:08
Now you can’t even put your name on a list to buy it as production has decreased so new models can be introduced.


 By: Journe1304 : July 8th, 2019-12:22
Well, to clarify my interest, I already have one and got it years ago when I didn’t need to apply. But I think it’s an interesting contrast in how FPJ is doing things vs other brands. If you go to NYC’s diamond district, many stores have a 5711 but no one has a CB. Part of that is certainly production numbers, but I’m betting that part of that is also FPJ’s sales practices.

I dont think it is much else than prodution numbers.

 By: ChristianDK : July 8th, 2019-13:37
I think it stems from Journe making between 8-900 pieces pr year. across the entire range!! That is not going to change as long as Mr Journe is in charge - im pretty sure! I dont know why the CB suddenly got so popular. it has been in production for ten years and it only happened in the last year or so. Production has remained more or less stabile in terms of numbers. and demand has been met without too much trouble with no need for a waiting list. Then suddenly a waiting list was needed, and some some entreprenant geniuses got the scent of money and put their name on all the list at all the stores. That became the end of the list and no application either. Production has been reduced to make room for new and interesting watches. When I talk to the good people at Montres Journe, they dont say it directly, but I get the feeling that they dont enjoy this commotion  and would like to move on from this watch. The Manufacture has so much more to offer.

If it can keep the CB out of the hands of flippers then I’m supportive of the idea. The other smart move by Journe was to centralize the list and control it from HQ. [nt]

 By: Jay (Eire) : July 10th, 2019-04:09
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