Thanks PoyFR !!!

 By: p@trice : October 4th, 2010-15:08

Il vaut mieux un qui sait que 100 qui ... Déblatèrent wink



Wow this post should be in its own thread!! [nt]

 By: AnthonyTsai : October 4th, 2010-19:50
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Yes, Anthony. We'll dedicate a whole thread to this topic. [nt]

 By: amanico : October 4th, 2010-20:34
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What a story!

 By: syncsean : October 4th, 2010-21:22
218, not so mysterious anymore, all due to your excellent story. Thks for sharing. Learnt a lot.

Enjoy it ... no ....

 By: Ares501 - Mr Green : October 5th, 2010-09:38
I absolutely love it ....
for so long long time I craved for this
piece of info about "dark horse" of preV
What fabulous story!!!
What tremendous piece of Panerai history!
Thank you for sharing all this Pre-V Panerai
jewels with us ... rarely though... but when you shoot
you always hit the bulls eye....
you are Pre-V Panerai encyclopedia
All the best

Held this document in hand...

 By: jeronim : October 6th, 2010-01:05

D.G. showed me copy(maybe original not sure)

would love to know that dr.Vlahovich,very Croatian sure name smile




Well it is possible that some people forget their promises...

 By: PoyFR : October 6th, 2010-10:22
Hello, I think I know who you are referring to. It is me, a long time ago that gave him a copy! anyway no arms in showing to enthusiasts. Anyway it is better now that it is here for everyone.
Best regards to you.


 By: jeronim : October 8th, 2010-04:37

sorry if I made some problems,didn't know that was confidiental :-(

Best regards,


This message has been edited by amanico on 2010-10-08 07:29:26

My friend, no worries what so ever

 By: PoyFR : October 8th, 2010-07:08
and nothing to worry about, you are not the one who broke trust, and anyway it does not matter...
Best to you and your family.

good I didn't make

 By: jeronim : October 8th, 2010-07:58

any mess around here.

thanks for best wishes,same to you

and same for Olimpic Marseille!

Y. love that club since you guys bought our A.Boksic

not to mention Skoblar smile


Best regards,



.... and you are not the only one

 By: Ares501 - Mr Green : October 6th, 2010-14:02
maybe it's time for us to find him
you never know maybe he have 2 Blackies for us.


Fantastic information Poy!!

 By: i_am_Sam : October 6th, 2010-17:22
Thank you for the very detailed information..



You have done us a great kindness!

 By: kkochheiser : December 23rd, 2020-19:33
Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us.


My favourite PreV Panerai's are

 By: michaelvl : October 4th, 2010-07:34
1. 5218-202/A from the 1994 batch with matching dial and the same fat numerals as the 5218-203/A.
2. 5218-304/A love the plain bezel.

Luminor and Mare...

 By: amanico : October 4th, 2010-07:37

A hard to beat Duo!

I can perfectly understand you, Mchael.



Mine is this,,,,,,BUT,,,,a special one ;-)

 By: Asimut : October 4th, 2010-10:17

A ref 5218-201/A prototype,,,,,,

And Nico, if you consider the Blackseal why not consider the blue indices daylight? wink



On,e problem at a time, Asi. :)))

 By: amanico : October 4th, 2010-10:35

First the Black Seal Slytech, then the Daylight Slytech...


You got the one on the pic, Asi?

Hope you have great time where you are, with all the other guys!



If I did, would it be a dream?

 By: Asimut : October 4th, 2010-11:17
it belongs to our friend DU,,,,,,,,,,I first saw it in 2004 and couldn't forget it since wink

What guys? I am slaving here with no fun at all! sad


Yes, there are eternal dreams, my friend.

 By: amanico : October 4th, 2010-11:20

Come on Asi, come and slave here in Paris, Bijo!




I try to call, line is always busy!

 By: Asimut : October 4th, 2010-11:49

The Good, the Bad and the Ugly... A Legendary Pic...

 By: amanico : October 4th, 2010-11:52

Who is the crook in the middle of the pic?


Best, Padre Shlomo!


Asi, I have a question on the blue indice daylight..

 By: i_am_Sam : October 5th, 2010-02:00

I once saw the picture, but never really told about the story behind it. Can you tell me a little bit about it?

Best regards,


wall to wall agreement on the first part of the story

 By: Asimut : October 5th, 2010-04:57
but real fuzzy about the rest....

Story is Stallone received less than 10 pieces of the Daylight (most likely 7) and didn't like the blue on white and therefore returned these to Panerai to be redone with black as subsequently were all Daylights. That's when the story becomes Fuzzy, from 7 it "grew" to 11 thanks to the powers of quality and there is claim that this amount did hit the market. Others claim that the blue leftover dials were used by an entrepreneur family to assemble some watches outside of Panerai thus making them fake.

I think consensus deems these as bad apples.

my 2c


Thank you for the information Asi...

 By: i_am_Sam : October 5th, 2010-06:56
It's always intriguing to hear stories about "controversial" watches like this one...

The look of the watch is not my cup of tea.. But it is definitely a very unique specimen that has a mysterious charm to it...



LOL Asi about the " Entrepreneur Family " ...

 By: amanico : October 5th, 2010-07:08

I never understood anything about these Blue Daylight Slytech...

7 to 11, 11 to 7...

Who really knows?



One thing is sure, this is not the kind of stuff I woiuld go for.



Yeah LOL, family, mum... more like inglorious... you know what I mean LOL [nt]

 By: PoyFR : October 5th, 2010-08:10
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Now you can be happy, I split my tea on my keyboard. :)))

 By: amanico : October 5th, 2010-08:12

I agree with 7, allow me to add a little more

 By: PoyFR : October 5th, 2010-08:04

Sylvester Stallone ordered 20 pieces of the 207/A, he wanted them rapidly (for if I remember correctly his birthday party), Panerai in Firenze arranged to rapidly deliver the first 10 pieces together with other pieces (201A & 205A).  On arrival/delivery Stallone was disappointed by the 207/A dial, he did not like it, especially when he could compare them to the other pieces. The 10 x 207/A (blue dial) pieces returned back to Panerai in Firenze.

A new dial was drawn in accordance to the actor’s requirements.  From way back, I remember to be told at Panerai in Firenze that they re-utilised 3 of the returned blue 207/A 10 pieces to complete the 20 new dialled 207/A pieces ordered by S. Stallone.  Needless to say that the final and complete order (207/A 20 pieces) was delivered post the party date 'ouch'!

*You will here below find a copy of the original final invoice to Sylvester Stallone for the 207/A (black numerals dials), together with related watch-numbers

So hurry up before knowledge travel around the globe, you now know which to look for.


I have learn to entirely ignore all rumours, even if certified that they could be more than 7 x 207/A bleu dial, 7 x 207A blue dial pieces is what I was told way back and before the end of Panerai Sistemi spa, and this is what I too believe. 

About the rest or others, I understand how it can be, it is because initially the production of the 207/A was specified and approved for production to ‘Valgine’ (Frères Guenat) with a blue dial and blue hands, due to actor's rejection a new dial was produced for all 207/A units,  but the blue dials had been produced already, this explains the many left over discarded blue dials and matching blue hands, may be up to 95 sets.  

At the time I did not count how many, but I saw a box full of it (1998)


Funny, POY, I was on to post this scan, too...

 By: amanico : October 5th, 2010-08:10

As it came with my ex Daylight Slytech...

Whose number is corresponding to those mentionned on the invoice.


For sure, an impeccable provenance!




rewind back a little, about the inglorious meum ....

 By: PoyFR : October 5th, 2010-08:25
a boat for the fools.  Then, the crew could hold on one boat, now it seems they are filling up an entire fleet, e Viva L'Italia!

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