Received my 321 “Ed White”

 By: Horo_Traveler : October 17th, 2020-16:40
While I appreciate the movement, this one left me somewhat cold. It has an oddly modern vibe to it, perhaps because of the sapphire crystal and ceramic bezel, and I don’t like the proportions of how the bracelet and case work together. I know it is a faithful reproduction, but perhaps I need to try it on a strap to see if I can warm up to the look of the watch.

Or it could just be because Omega have diluted their “Moonwatch” brand with too many variants, special editions, etc., that this release didn’t really feel special like I thought it would.

Just my initial thoughts, I may grow to like this over time. The complete opposite to what I experienced with the Apollo 11 50th Anniversary “Moonshine Gold” release, which is one of my favorites in my collection. It too has sapphire and ceramic, but has a much more charming look to it.

I appreciate your honesty.

 By: MichaelC : October 17th, 2020-17:21
Maybe you will grow to love it?

I have an option on this watch.  But I have a regular Moonwatch and quite like it.  From an aesthetic standpoint, I think the regular bracelet looks much nicer.  Dial, I like details of the EW.  But worth it to change?  Not sure yet.  I certainly don't need one of each, and lean towards keeping the one I have.

I don’t yet on a speed master...

 By: Chronometer (aka yacomino) : October 17th, 2020-17:40
However interestingly enough I find this version of the bracelet quite beautiful.  Hope you enjoy it

I’m interested to learn what is it about the proportions of the bracelet and the case that you don’t like? [nt]

 By: Metachronous : October 17th, 2020-17:43
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The bracelet feels narrow and thin relative to the watch head.

 By: Horo_Traveler : October 17th, 2020-18:24
That combined with the shape of the case creates an odd look on my wrist. Individually, the case and bracelet are nice, but it is a matter of taste, they don’t come together well for me.

Thank you - those observations are helpful to know. [nt]

 By: Metachronous : October 18th, 2020-15:41
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My experience with watches

 By: sham1 : October 17th, 2020-19:09
is that if they are not love at first sight, the watch will not be loved over time.  Even if it is love at first sight, the love might fade away. Not to worry, lots of other great chronos in the market like the latest Omega Snoopy!  smile

Try it on leather strap, it'll change the entire look..

 By: Pun : October 17th, 2020-19:34
The watch itself is very well made, my only gripe is that the price is very high. Omega could have made it few thousand less expensive and then.....

On the contrary, I feel the regular Speedmaster bracelets are a little bulky...

 By: Clueless_Collector : October 17th, 2020-19:45
Especially at the clasp area. I prefer some tapering but I see your point about it being a little thin, like the Apollo 11.

Congratulations, looks like we have couple just in these few days, awesome to see them coming along.

Having not seen it in the metal, I still share your concern about the fit of the bracelet and case

 By: Lankysudanese : October 17th, 2020-19:49
Thanks for your honest opinions 

At some point the river is going to run dry. Or maybe it won't.

 By: Age_of_Surfaces : October 17th, 2020-19:57
Omega has produced countless versions of these watches for five decades in every conceivable permutation. It has then taken many of these permutations and spun them out more than once with negligible changes touted as distinctive features. The current Snoopy watch is the third in 15-20 years and we are supposed to believe the CEO of Omega who spoke of the brand's commitment to "innovation" at its launch. I'm afraid this is absurd and should not pass the giggle test among a discerning audience.

For me, Omega represents the classic watch. The first watch I remember my father wearing was an Omega. I have another one now - I've been wearing it this week in fact - and I bought one for my wife's 40th birthday. But it is also true that when brands have a cash cow they milk it and milk it to beyond saturation point. The Speedmaster reached that point about 30 years ago but, just in time for Omega, a new generation of watch buyers reached a purchasing age.

The most tragic part of all of this is that the Speedmaster forged its name as a performance watch. By the 2010s, Omega was avoiding independent performance trials because it did not want to lose to competition (trials won by Breguet and Tissot among others). That's what happens when a brand becomes primarily about heritage; it no longer believes it is in its interest to compete. In a way, it is right, because people keep on buying the same watches, year after year after year.

I agree.

 By: Horo_Traveler : October 17th, 2020-20:37
I believe brands are in a difficult spot and I empathize with them, but Omega has a particular virulent form of special editionits, which is in fortunate as it casts a shadow on their truly special pieces.

Still, my issue with the steel 321 is personal. It has to do more with the looks. It is my understanding that this is a faithful reproduction of the “Ed White” with the sapphire and ceramic nods to more modern innovation. Hence, I don’t see this as an Omega mistake, just me not warming up to the package.

I don’t want to discourage other 321 lovers from ordering one as others’ tastes may be different than mine.

I am totally with you. Ok, the movement is a good point. The straight lugs, ok again, the classic dial, ok once again, but all the fuss about that watch... Ok I am not a Speedie fan, and my

 By: amanico : October 17th, 2020-23:48
Comment must be taken in that way. 

Really mon ami? You like the CK 2998 but not this edition of the EW?

 By: holdemchamp1225 : October 18th, 2020-03:09
The only difference is the alpha hands and patina on the dial of the CK 2998 that you showed in another thread. Everything else is exactly the same as the EW so I am curious since I know you prefer vintage over modern, especially with this type of watch.
Looking at your Rolexes, Blancpain FFs, etc...I would have to assume this is the case. You're just a vintage guy mon ami besides the watches that did not exist prior in any iteration like the Duometres, JLC MMR, Amvox, Reverso Septantieme, etc...
And there I can understand and appreciate that certain people would prefer to have the original versions due to charm, history, etc...
I think most people who don't get this NEW Ed White or cannot understand why it is a big deal might not understand the purpose of such a watch when they can simply purchase an original. I have 2 original Ed White Speedmasters but don't necessarily wear them for several reasons. This new iteration gives me the opportunity to wear a watch design I adore without having to worry about damage, fragility, water resistance, etc...
The hype train has caused this piece to be coveted and maybe for the wrong reasons. I am hoping that people who really want and see the point of this watch can purchase one and wear it as it was meant to be.
For me, there is NO better modern Speedmaster all things included (aesthetics, history, iconic status, modern updates and tech, warranty, etc...) besides the Moonshine which is why I label them 1A and 1B 😁😜

Why on earth ...

 By: Cpt Scarlet : October 18th, 2020-02:29
Would you take delivery of a watch that you basically don’t like ?. I’m sure that many others that wait patiently would have enjoyed it. 

+1, have to agree and curious to know as well 🤔

 By: holdemchamp1225 : October 18th, 2020-02:42
I go by the mantra, buy what you like regardless of hype or what people advise.
Did you even try it on prior to purchasing the watch? If so, did you also feel the same way when you tried it on? If you did and were initially hesitant, then why proceed any further?
I am biased in all this as I feel this watch is amazing in every way. Basically it gives fans who appreciate the original EW (looks, design, heritage, etc...) a worry-free way to wear a modern iteration with modern updates 🤷‍♂️

Glad you like it.

 By: Horo_Traveler : October 18th, 2020-06:12
For fans of the original, this is a great release.

Indeed, now I can wear this one with peace of mind and not have to worry about my 2 originals. It's a win win 😜 [nt]

 By: holdemchamp1225 : October 18th, 2020-07:27
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Why on earth...

 By: Horo_Traveler : October 18th, 2020-06:18
Would you assume that I tried it on before I took delivery? I’m a fan of the 321 movement, had the watch delivered to my home and didn’t like it.

Good afternoon ...

 By: Cpt Scarlet : October 18th, 2020-06:23
That’s not something that I assumed, if you review my post.
I hope that eventually you enjoy the watch.
Kind regards

I'm hoping so too.

 By: Horo_Traveler : October 18th, 2020-06:28
I purchased it for the movement and will try it on a leather strap. I’m hoping I’ll like it as I generally prefer my Speedmasters on a strap, with the exception of the Apollo 11 50th Anniversary release, which I prefer on the bracelet. That’s an interesting one as I generally avoid colored metals, but still liked it on a bracelet as it brings the look together without appearing blingy.

I have lots of buyer's and seller's remorse. Those experience told me...

 By: hoseachandra : October 18th, 2020-04:23
That if I have little hesitant about a watch in the beginning, the love will not last long and eventually I will sell it. Contrary to that, some watches that I sold, I regret it because it was a first love sight.

My opinion regarding the EW, the bracelet suits perfectly with the straight lug. But terrible with the Apollo 50th anniversary (with regular twisted lugs of speedy case). I think twisted lugs match nicely with regular bracelet. That's why I did not buy the the 50th anniversary, although I really want the caliber 3861.


 By: Horo_Traveler : October 18th, 2020-06:37
My experience was the exact opposite with the Apollo 11 and EW. The Apollo 11 has a narrow bracelet as well, but the look worked on that watch for me.

This shows that Omega were right about releasing both pieces as they appeal to different collectors.

Let me say that, in my case, I ordered a black leather strap from B&S while I 'm still waiting for the EW arrive!

 By: massimiliano : October 18th, 2020-06:06
As for the Speedmaster 60th anniversary, switching from bracelet to a leather strap gives you a completely different feeling of the watch smile

I simply prefer other than the metal bracelet (apart my twenty years old Sea-Dweller)

Take all the time you need: at the and, you always can find another home for this great watch.

Best, massi

It took a switch from bracelet to strap to really appreciate my Rail . . .

 By: Dr No : October 18th, 2020-14:13

. . . and feel the same may be in store for you. 



Like you, I prefer it on a strap. [nt]

 By: amanico : October 18th, 2020-14:17
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That’s a great look! [nt]

 By: Horo_Traveler : October 18th, 2020-15:55
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Great looking Speedy.

 By: Pelican1960 : October 18th, 2020-20:27
I hope you will enjoy wearing it. My favorite is still the 1861 Speedy which I received as a retirement gift last year. It was always my grail watch and it hasn’t disappointed me. My best to you!