Chopard

This little beauty arrived just a few minutes ago.  A Jacky Ickx 3rd edition.

It's a used one, naturally and not completely mint, but I don't care because it's beautiful...

With a 24h sub-dial, it is one of the chronographs that shall one day be part of my collection.

May I ask what attracted you to your beautiful Jacky Ickx model?

What do you like most?

Big congrats and wishing you a wonderful time with the new piece.

Best regards,

kolosstt

Yes, I do love the 24 hour marker, it's very unique. I can't really lie in being attracted by the price of this one - there's no denying that it's a used watch and not really one of the more investable of models (the V3 isn't the XL size and doesn't have the flyback chronograph). But, it looks wonderful, I love the crisp cream dial which is a welcome alternative to the usual black/dark faced watches I normally see. While I could have stretched to the 12 hour mille, the styling is just a little loud.
I'm going to really enjoy wearing this while my GP is repaired. At which point, I won't know what to wear...

theaperture,

Here are a few Jacky Ickx 24H Le Mans souvenirs to go with your watch.

The 24-Hour chronograph counter is pretty unique and we asked for it in the L.U.C 1963 Chrono PuristS Edition; alas, it was not allowed!

Read a Conversation with Jacky Ickx: Racing Legend and Friend of Chopard

Regards,

MTF

1976 Le Mans Porsche 936




Le Mans Porsche Lounge

Karl-Friedrich Scheufele and Jacky Ickx wearing Chopard Jacky Ickx Chrono v 3 and v 5


This message has been edited by MTF on 2016-08-23 05:07:38

Thanks MTF for the wealth of extra value you've brought. Really nice to see those cars.

I would have appreciated the idea indeed! Assuming that design of the movement did not allow for any other gear ratio, but 24h sub-dial is something which I only know from Chopard, actually...
BR, kolosstt

The L.U.C 1963 Collection was a 50th anniversary "gift" to Mama and Papa Scheufele who took on Chopard in 1963.

Thus, it had design motifs from that era viz. Roman numerals for normal time and Arabic numerals for chronograph displays.

Both the rose gold and steel Chrono versions had to maintain 12-H chronograph counters partly due to heritage but also because the 24-H counter is "reserved" for Jack Ickx (or Mr Le Mans) for his six wins at the 24H of Le Mans. [sigh] 

I tried, I pleaded, I cajoled but Mr KFS did not waver.

Also I suspect that as they shared the same base movement, it would have taken too much resource to modify into a 24-H counter.

L.U.C 1963 Chrono PuristS Edition

Regards,

MTF

... but as you know, I let go of the desire some while ago.

Besides any engineering and resource consideration, I would also understand that the 1963 should always be identifiable as such. Therefore, no change to hour counter is understandable.

Thanks for letting us know and best regards,

kolosstt

Just something I've noticed while testing out the functions.  The manual that comes with the watch of course covers other models, so I could be mis-reading here.  As far as I understand it, Jacky wanted his editions to have a flyback chronograph - I know the edition 4 has one, but I'm not so sure about my edition 3.  From what I see in pushing the pushers, it doesn't - I press the top pusher to start the chronograph and a push of the bottom pusher should then reset the counter and start over (at least that's as far as I understand it).

So, what's right for this edition 3?  Should it have the flyback or not (or am I just doing it wrong)?

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Thanks!

The 3rd edition Chopard’s Jacky Ickx Chrono 6/24 was launched in 2002 and is different from the previous two editions by a large date display at 12 o’clock and luminous hands. It also has 24-H chronograph counter at position 6 o'clock for the first time.

CHOPARD Mille Miglia Jacky Ickx 6/24 Chronograph Mk 3

Jacky Ickx’s signature and two chequered racing flags symbolizing his six victories at the 24H of Le Mans are on the case back. The two flags are also on the dial above the date.

The leather strap has three holes to resemble vintage racing gloves and MoMo steering wheels..

Case: 40.5 mm, stainless steel with Jacky Ickx signature on case back and tachymeter scale on bezel.

There is NO label "Fly-back" on the dial but it has that function. [Editor CORRECTION: This is incorrect. Edition 3 did not have flyback function but it had big date and 24-h chronograph counter]

Movement: automatic Dubois Dépraz Caliber 44560 (based on the ETA 2894-2) with 42-hour power reserve and C.O.S.C. certification

Functions: hours, minutes, seconds; large date, chronograph; 24-hour/second time zone display

Limited Edition: 1,000 pieces in stainless steel and 250 pieces in rose gold.

Price in 2004: was $6,095 for the stainless steel version.

The fly back function button sequence is as you described.  Alas - you have a problem...Houston?!? [Editor Correction: No flyback specified]

Regards,

MTF

This message has been edited by MTF on 2016-08-31 03:01:18

Would it be possible for you to verify the flyback function for the 3rd edition? I ask this because while the chrono is in action, the bottom pusher feel as though there's an intentional mechanical block to stop it being pressed. This is the same as for my other mechanical chono watches (Speedmaster, Tag Monaco).
However, I agree from reading the Quill and Pad article you quoted that all JI editions have a flyback. What I don't know is whether this is a documentation issue or an issue with the watch. Unfortunately, I don't see any reviews online for this edition.
That being said, it's a 15 year old used watch. The flyback feature is something that I'll not use very often and I'm asking myself whether it's worth the cost of repair.

It should have the flyback function. 

[Editor CORRECTION: No flyback function specified for Edition 3.]

[Editor's NOTE: Conversely, Edition 5 is a flyback but that is not printed on the dial either.]

There is no signed version without flyback. it would be suspicious if that was the case.

Hint: Check the horizontal alignment of the pushers and crown; they should be NOT in alignment due to the extra Depraz module added to the base ETA movement.

Regards,

MTF

This message has been edited by MTF on 2016-08-31 08:21:44

This message has been edited by theaperture on 2016-08-24 11:18:15

nt This message has been edited by MTF on 2016-08-31 02:52:01

I've contacted the seller (a watch dealer on eBay) with a view to getting this repaired. I appreciate the irony that this is now my second Chopard, and both have issues with the bottom pusher...

theaperture,



Chopard Mille Miglia Chrono








This message has been edited by MTF on 2016-08-25 11:13:37

Wow, that's quite a road trip, I'd love to be a part of that!
I've been in contact with the seller who has been really good in offering to take the watch back under warranty and have it looked at by his independent guy. Given the complicated nature of the DD module, this might turn out to be a challenge. Let's hope it's just a simple mechanical issue as opposed to a complicated mechanical issue....
It's going to be sad to have no Chopards in my life after meeting them both so briefly...

Last week, I contacted Chopard via their website to ask about the flyback feature for this edition (not that I mistrust any experience here, but "official" words weigh more than forum members when it comes to warranty issues).
Response (so far):
"Thank you for your patience.
The immediate information against this piece does not mention a flyback but I am just checking with production for a final answer.
Thank you for your patience.
Sincerely,
Ena Jean O'Neill"
So, the initial response from Chopard seems to contradict the specifications that MTF quoted above. This is interesting, and I await further news.

Forumners,



2004



This message has been edited by MTF on 2016-08-31 08:17:24

Thanks again for the clarification. I think that maybe the wasp in the jelly of this series is the second edition, which has "flyback" indicated on the dial but no large date.

I guess that Chopard wanted the big date for the number 3, but couldn't for some reason retain the flyback complication until the 4th iteration in the series.

Nevertheless, I'm extremely happy with this piece. It's just a little frustrating that I only had confirmation from Chopard after I had sent my watch for potential repair. I'll get it back in a couple of days though.

hi guys. I'm a novice to Chopard jacky Ickx but love the watches. I'm planning on buying one but wanted to know which edition is the most collectible and is likely to rise in price. I've noticed that there are hardly any edition 3's in steel available. Any pointers and advice would be greatly appreciated

looks great on you. From the pic it looks pretty mint

You can enjoy it right away as it is near perfect but just enough life that you will start to enjoy it right away.

... have to wait for the other one to come back from the repair shop...

They should look back to this design for inspiration.

Edition 4 listed as Flyback on dial.



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Jacky Ickx Edition 5 

hi guys. I'm a novice to Chopard jacky Ickx but love the watches. I'm planning on buying one but wanted to know which edition is the most collectible and is likely to rise in price. I've noticed that there are hardly any edition 3's in steel available whilst there's plenty of others. Any pointers and advice would be greatly appreciated