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Yes thats right!I love the last FPJ creation.....do not ask me why..I love the 2 tone case,simplicity of the front and back,the engravings etc....well done FPJ the first watch that I like in a long while(since the golden era of the seconde morte,resonance,CS ...)
This De Bethune DB25 lune belongs to the unachievable dreams.....but,it is a beauty;the salmon dial,the pt case,the gorgeous guillochet.The classic looking front is paired with the outstanding technological tourbillon at the back.Pure poetry...
Ah what a watch,its in SS so understatement is at its best..I looove it,I love the fact that its cased in a "poor"metal.Look at that dial,and that backside...wow!
Great offering from Ulysse Nardin,an in-house tourbillon and..thats it!Set in a beautiful skeletonised movement,exposing the sheer simplicity of the bridges and the mainspring....veery tempting.Cased in platinum,this is a serious contender.
I finish with one of my dreams,well what should I say that hasn t been said?I don t like automatic tourbillons,but strangely one of my favourite is this one,you wouldn t even know its automatic...I think it belong to a world of its own.The finish is just spectacular,the importance of such a piece needs to be experienced live.
Tourbillon,a new interest?
Well,let me start like this,I do NOT have a soft spot for this ,anyway interesting, escapement solution.
Tourbillon watches never spoke to me loudly,I never saw the "added value"factor,the subsequent upward spirals of watches with holes in the dials or pyrotechnical constructions around a spinning outsourced tourbillon and the madness prices they reached,kept my interest way away from this anyhow alluring sophistication(I am not sure if I think its a complication).
Anyway,lately,as you grow and eager to explore unknown territories,I started collecting all the thoughts i had about tourbillon watches in the last few years and came out with a list of the ones I like the most.....in order to,well,create a little space in my wish list into which place my dream tourbillon watch.
By the way I am only referring to single axis tourbillons,otherwise we will open a pandora box!
Here are my contendents,some are unapproachable,other achievable with lots of effort,but anyway,these are of my taste:
THE DISCREET TOURBILLONS
the ones that are understated beauties,no sign of a thing in sight,just for yourself....elegant and private...
Yes thats right!I love the last FPJ creation.....do not ask me why..I love the 2 tone case,simplicity of the front and back,the engravings etc....well done FPJ the first watch that I like in a long while(since the golden era of the seconde morte,resonance,CS ...)
This De Bethune DB25 lune belongs to the unachievable dreams.....but,it is a beauty;the salmon dial,the pt case,the gorgeous guillochet.The classic looking front is paired with the outstanding technological tourbillon at the back.Pure poetry...
Ah what a watch,its in SS so understatement is at its best..I looove it,I love the fact that its cased in a "poor"metal.Look at that dial,and that backside...wow!
I could see myself with this one....pure class.
(pics Monochrome)
THE DISPLAY TOURBILLONS
in this category,the ones that I like because the tourbillon is part of the architecture of the dial,they play an important role in the whole look...just fascinating the ballet happening on the dial...
Great offering from Ulysse Nardin,an in-house tourbillon and..thats it!Set in a beautiful skeletonised movement,exposing the sheer simplicity of the bridges and the mainspring....veery tempting.Cased in platinum,this is a serious contender.
I finish with one of my dreams,well what should I say that hasn t been said?I don t like automatic tourbillons,but strangely one of my favourite is this one,you wouldn t even know its automatic...I think it belong to a world of its own.The finish is just spectacular,the importance of such a piece needs to be experienced live.
(pics from our beloved amanico)
Well this is my list....which one do you prefer?
I thought I never asked this but,which one will you put in your wish list?
Feel free to add some more of course.
Yours,Mo
Goo'day Mo, thank you very much for these stunning...
pictures. Like you, I am not a great fan of tourbillons and my reasons are basically the same as yours. However, there is no doubt in my mind that THE ONE is the Laurent Ferrier, pure classe, pure beauty, pure.......purity!!!!!
Recto and Verso just perfection!
Cheers
Francois from Down Under 
Agreed on the LF
Actually agree wholeheartedly with your whole selection. Strange that I also understand why you have left out offerings from Breguet and Patek. One I would change though is your offering from UN, instead opting for the Royal Blue, a watch that stops my heart for more than a second.
Dean
Yes,I understand your point on the RB,but..
I opted for the new skeleton manufacture because its fresher,newer,with the silicon technology in full display,and a full in -house development from UN.
I appreciate new research a lot.....also,I tried to include tourbillons somehow...affordable(apart from De Bethune).
Check the UN rep and you will be surprised.
Mo
I know,it is an incredible creation..
Always been a big fan of The double spiral Gallet ,but this version is really something else.
The pattern on the dial is just out of this world and,as I said,the fact that it is cased in SS is ahuge++++ for me not a minus.
Mo
I am very much with you Moc...
I also prefer a tourbillon hidden from view, only to be admired in an intimate situation ;-)
Here I would add the (to me) most intricate Breguet, the Grande Complication Tourbillon 1801-2001, issued in 2001 to commemorate the 200th anniversary of the tourbillon patent. The secrecy around the tourbillon is perfect (image: Antiquorum):
As for the openly displayed implementations I'd like to propose the Haldimann H1 for its delicate construction which takes the notion of visibility to the extreme (and also adds an acoustical dimension):
I would count the new Journe to be amongst the most desirable current production tourbillons for its decidedly vintage appeal in construction an finish. As I said not a very inventive piece, but thoroughly charming.
Thanks for this thread!
Magnus
Your welcome Magnus..
and great choices.....the Haldiman definitely a reference when it comes to modern production tourbillons....
I am glad the thread was well received
Mo
I would be torn between those.....
Nice and timely topic, Moc. I couldn't make it to T30 event in Tokyo last night, but I understand your feeling. By the way, T10 was also announced (10th anniversary of Tokyo boutique, which is LE of 10 - may have been spoken for already, though )
As for me, I would be torn apart between those two, for example. They both have own charms.....
Ken
)As for me, I would be torn apart between those two, for example. They both have own charms.....
Ken
But you are not torn...
as you are already 50% there...you only need to chase the other one ...right?
Thanks Ken..always nice to have your input.
Mo
I will always ponder and wonder...
... which would better suit me... or maybe both depending on the occasion (I wish!). Or maybe I don't need tourbillon at all as my Grand Seiko does everything right in the accuracy department at any position.....
Again, thank you, my friend!
Ken
Again, thank you, my friend!
Ken
my prefererence (in my range)
is the Journe Dead Seconds:
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[/URL]of course it is not stealthy per se but it can be if you want to by hiding the left half under the sleeve ...
The other one that I love is the H1.
Best
Andreas
You are spot on Andreas...
amongst the ones with the "hole"on the dial,the FPJ is on the very top....exactly,you can obtain discretion at any time...with your cuff...
thanks
Mo
Wonderful choices
Like you I do not like when there is a hole in a dial, I prefer when completely transparent or even better hidden.
Tough to choose.
For a transparent, THe tourbillon Messidor of Breguet but second to the fabulous Girard Perregaux you presented.
credit/ Kong
But I prefer hidden , and my choice would be the FP Journe; the stunning architecture and finish; the case, I think one has to see it for real. 99% of the time I od not like two tone, but the 1% I really really like it, that's the case here, it seem wonderful imho. I am still under the shock. My other choice would be also Haldimann ( and then the H9...)
very personnal choice
cheers Mo
François
Francois,I agree on the FPJ..
i havent been impressed by him in the last few years ,but I am dying to see this one live.....I looove the 2 tone,really beautifully designed...and I forgot to mention ,the grained finish on the movement is my favourite finish on a classic watch...
Mo
After some hours of reflection
I stick to the Journe , I agree with you, it has really everything.
Caliber architecture is amazing, caliber finish looks perfect for this kind of watch, case looks fabulous, price is more than alright for something like that. And that dial with its sheer beauty of enamel dial, an hommage to its first watch and provocation which I personnaly love and add consistence and a funny story to the object. Such a full package on a recent watch is not so common to say the least.
cheers
Francois
Is this REALLY a discussion we should be having???...
Moc, there is not a single watch there which is not utterly desirable. As ever: you are a man of very great taste.
Here’s a list from someone who isn’t a big fan of tourbillons. If someone were to force one on you, though, with any luck it will be one of these:
1. Discreet –
The Patek –
The GF (yeah – discreet!) –
The oh-so-yes-please Omega –
The FMN –
With a bonus –
The mighty DB16 –
“Grail” defined –
2. “Open”…
The source –
But this one would suffice –
The JDN –
The RM12 –
Going in the other direction –
Classic –
Just as classic –
Klings. Any of them –
Nearly perfect –
The one to rule them all –
What a very dangerous thread!
Cheers,
pplater.
(As usual, photo credits embedded in URLs - right-click to view)
If you can have any of these wrapped up and sent
to me as a gift - I would feel greatly obliged!
This message has been edited by amerix on 2013-10-19 10:25:08 This message has been edited by amerix on 2013-10-19 10:45:06
Actually, the Haldimann or the Klings would more than do it.
Remember the saying - to eat is human, to digest divine.
Cheers!
Amery
Indigestion....
I feel like a boxer at the 13th round.......
What a selection my friend.....where do we start?Any blueprints of that bank vault?I have my black turtleneck ready..
Mo
GP, for me, without forgetting the Reveros Tourbillon Skeleton and the Gyro One...
And I am not a big fan of the Tourbillon, as well...
Best,
Vlad, in a dangerous thread.
Before Art gets here :)
may I propose
something from a tray
or even better something from a wrist
Very dangerous interest my dear friend
but I now that your interests soon becomes your reality
and I respect you because of that attribute
Of course 3 Golden bridges, Breguet and DeBethune are timely classics and sure favorites
Sincerely yours
Damjan
This message has been edited by Ares501 on 2013-10-19 12:10:36
Hmmmmm...
...that tray looks very familiar!
Certainly, the central tourbillons are very, very enticing watches. However: speaking only personally, Haldimann has made the central tourbillon space his own, eclipsing even the more pragmatic (and formerly more attainable) Omega iterations. Don't mean to break your heart, Art:
Thank you for your kind sentiments, chum.
Cheers,
pplater.
I only keep trays...
of greatest connoisseurs
Sincerely
D
P.S. Apologies for not putting credits
This message has been edited by Ares501 on 2013-10-20 06:12:46
Sincerely
D
P.S. Apologies for not putting credits
This message has been edited by Ares501 on 2013-10-20 06:12:46
It never ceases to amaze . . .
. . . that there are only two central tourbillons in existence, yet only one has an ethereal effect on my senses. The Haldimann is, in my eyes, a brilliantly executed watch; the Omega, that, and far more.
The penultimate in my pecking order would be the skeleton Reverso . . .
[image taken Dec '08]
. . . which might strike as a completely different animal when compared to the Omega. Not so, in my eyes.
The design of the Omega is the only one that evokes the Pythagorean ideal of the Music of the Spheres. The Jaeger tracks it by evoking the Golden Ratio. One offers a cosmic insight, and the other, a human. The mystery of nature vs the mystery of man's striving to understand his world.
Between elegance in design and excellence in execution, I'll take design. Anyone with enough time, effort, and talent can execute. Only a genius can design.
Cordially,
Art
You've come over all "Vasari", Art...
...but you are right, as usual.
Cheers,
pplater.
Cheers,
pplater.
That makes three figures of historical importance . . .
. . . I've learned about this weekend. As Vasari might have said had he been a participant in this thread, de gustibus non est disputandum.
Chastened,
Art
Chastened,
Art
Cheers my friend...
Reality?still in the pipeline....these require sweat and effort and....luck....
Great choice on the central tourbis......before Art gets here...ha ha...
Mo
Mo, brilliant thread. Some real beauties here!
I do have to add my personal fav. single axis Tourbillon, although pplater pretty much covered all the bases, especially with the JDN 2 minute tourbillon.
Stephen & John McGonigle's initial offering is to my mind the loveliest Tourbillon I have had the pleasure of handling. This version in rose gold is sublime.
Cheers,
Tim
Stephen & John McGonigle's initial offering is to my mind the loveliest Tourbillon I have had the pleasure of handling. This version in rose gold is sublime.
Cheers,
Tim
Of course!...
What an unforgivable oversight!
Thanks for the pick-up Tim: platinum here, please:
(Photo by Curtis at TemperedOnline)
Cheers,
pplater.