Errors: Are they Intentional?

 By: Cookies : August 5th, 2022-16:10
Every once in a while, we hear of errors made in watch production. Sometimes I wonder, are they intentional?

Do you know of any watches with errors made in production and released to consumers? Do you think they are intentional?

Here are a few:

AP ROO Team Alinghi. The Logo was incorrectly printed. This turned out to be quite fortituous to the owners. 
Credit: The Watch Club


JLC Polaris Mariner with the outphased orange lume. Apparently reports have surfaced that the orange lume does not last long. Credit: Time and Watches

JLC Polaris with non-matching dial Credit: Amanico

Rolex Airking with an incorrect “3”. A “9” was placed instead. Credit: GQ

Rolex GMT Master. With hash or no hash between GMT and Master. Credit: SWE on this forum

Credit: Philippine Watch Club

Credit: Perezscope

Upside down numerals. Credit: Omega Forums.

JLC Geophysic calibre. Note the area around the balance wheel Credit: Hodinkee

In this other piece, the balance wheel periphery has a bridge, which is absent on the other piece. Credit: Hodinkee

Sh%t happens...even in the watch world : )

 By: mdg : August 5th, 2022-16:12

Yes indeed

 By: Cookies : August 5th, 2022-16:16

Here’s another: Flat 4 they say. Credit:

How is this a mistake?

 By: mdg : August 5th, 2022-17:15
It would have been designed that way. It doesn't look like a misprint and is very similar to the 4 on my Submariner...

Here is an article

 By: Cookies : August 5th, 2022-17:20
So not a mistake u say. What does Rolex say?

It's not a mistake, it's just a variation.

 By: mdg : August 5th, 2022-18:06
At some point they changed the typeface/type design. Btw, my '83 Submariner has a 4 that is about half-way between sharp and flat.

Well said

 By: Cookies : August 5th, 2022-18:13
It could be a variation. Just like how they have some with the Rolexrolexrolex rehaut, and some with the lug-holes(if my memory serves me right). The 16610LV is among my favourite references from them. 

Then there are vintage Milgauss pieces without the milgauss printed on the black dials, and Cosmographs with Cosmog and aghs separated. 

I also read about a Zenith chronomaster with an inverted marker at 4 o’clock on A Collected Man. 

I could not confirm it, but i have a strange feeling that my SM300 trimetal, uses different grades of titanium on the case, and bracelet. The case seems like a significantly lighter hue to the bracelet’s titanium, although they are supposed to be the same grade 2 titanium. A matter of sourcing and suppliers perhaps.

I heard Blancpain bezels could come with cloudy or sharp numerals. A member mentioned this a few months back. I much prefer the hazy bezels, which remind me of a mysterious foggy lighthouse.

Have a great week ahead 

Another great post. The mistake on the Air King was a great one!

 By: amanico : August 5th, 2022-17:07

Got a few more i thought about

 By: Cookies : August 5th, 2022-17:17

Isograph was the hype for a while, and then it disappeared. Credit: Wristwatchreview

Zenith Inventor. Very short-lived launch, one of our members was supposed to buy one, but it was not to be. 
Credit: ablogtoread

Omega SM CK859. A limited edition or a card misprint or wrong information given to the press? Credit: Hodinkee

Interesting and potentially very fun thread! So here's my favorite 'mistake' of all, made by my friends at Patek and enjoyed by myself and very few other collectors for the past 4 years! :-)

 By: FabR : August 5th, 2022-17:34

Naming Ref. 5177G-010 after the "Cinque Terre," five world-famous small towns located one hour east of "Boccadasse" (a borough inside of Genova, and the actual location depicted on the dial!) is arguably an understandable 'mistake' by Patek, *precisely because* the watch has been assigned to international customers.  Still, of course, the name of this reference is technically incorrect! smile

While I'm occasionally (and generously) given credit for the popularity that Patek Rare Handcrafts have reached in recent years, for sure I'd deserve a free drink EVERY NIGHT by the bars and restaurants in Boccadasse, if this spectacularly beautiful corner of the Mediterranean that nobody knew 4 years ago is now famous the world over! ;-))))

Cheers smile

Amazing story Fab

 By: Cookies : August 5th, 2022-17:42
Yes great depth u have, after years in the hobby. I realized this hobby is not just about blind acquisition of hypebeasts, but chronicling the journey, discussing topics, and having a laugh sometimes. Like fine wine, this hobby mellows and becomes more beautiful.
Back then, these handicrafts were very rarely seen or discussed. They are still rarely seen or discussed because it isn’t a “social climbers” watch but rather one of an established collector.

Many thanks Cookies --- for me, Patek Rare Handcrafts represent the highest encounter between art and horology, so I'm humbly happy if I can contribute to popularize them among the world's finest collectors and connoisseurs :-) Have a great evening.

 By: FabR : August 5th, 2022-17:54

Not sure if one considers these as errors...

 By: Eddie1 : August 6th, 2022-03:05
...but when I saw the first release of Ulysse Nardin's "Falcon Tourbillon" at one of the SIHH events, the watch was presented with a falcon about to land /perch on the right arm of an Arab.  Here's the picture I took then.

I was told that the watch was, obviously, targeted at the Middle East market, to which I remarked that Arab falconers would wear left handed gloves, and keep their right hand free to give food to the falcon and to interact with others (I could have possibly posted this way back in the forum).  I decided to do some research after that it is interesting to note that the Mongolian falconers do use their right arm for falconery; nonetheless, the later "production" pieces were flipped to the left arm:


The other one that is interesting is the presentation of UN's Samouraie.  The positions of Miyamoto Musashi and Sasaski Kojiro are flipped in that Musashi is jumping in from the top left and we see Kojiro's left side instead of his right side.  In addition, the UN watch presents Musashi as attacking with a Katana rather than the Bokken (a wooden sword, with Musashi's version being longer than the standard katana):

compared to the sculpture on which it is based:

Picture: m

Would these be errors or just an artistic re-interpretation?  Just my little bit for the conversation; nice topic, Cookies, and thanks for the post.

Lovely watches, nonetheless.

Wish all you readers and posters a great weekend.

Ooo now these lesser known examples surface

 By: Cookies : August 6th, 2022-03:28
This is one giant community of observers, and many of times, just asking or a post with questions yields golden answers like yours. 

I believe I searched the web for error dials and never came across the Falconer and the Bushido examples, until you mentioned it. And FabR’s Cinque Terre is also a very good example. 

Wow, I’m learning a lot from this forum of this wonderful world of watches.

Yes I’ve read that many Middle Eastern’s have a culture of differentiating their left and right hands for different uses, and they must have went ahead with the design without being aware of the right vs left hand’s uses. 

Amazing examples of “errors” or “variations”.

I wonder what other examples will surface. 

That is one highly nontrivial couple of examples, of which at least the first definitely looks like an error/oversight on the Brand’s part👍Thanks for a very interesting contribution!

 By: FabR : August 6th, 2022-06:07