Advice, please. Am hesitating about buying a new Habring2 Felix. Is it just too simple?

 By: kjkt3 : June 15th, 2019-16:12

They are awesome!

 By: Bounce781 : June 15th, 2019-16:28
I’ve considered one too.
Go for it!

I love this minimalist look. Not a problem, at the contrary. [nt]

 By: amanico : June 15th, 2019-16:32
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Unless you already have simple watches and long for something more busy/interesting...

 By: vitalsigns : June 15th, 2019-16:57
I’d say simple is good, although I prefer the word elegant or pure.

Unless you already have “simple” watches and long for something more busy/interesting...

 By: vitalsigns : June 15th, 2019-16:58
I’d say simple is good, although I prefer the word elegant or pure.

I used to be fascinated by complex movements . . .

 By: Dr No : June 15th, 2019-17:33
. . . and elaborate dials.

Not anymore.  The best analogy I can come up with would be having a four star supper every evening.  Eventually, you'll tire of it. 


After you’ve been havin’ steak for a long time, beans - beans taste fine

 By: cazalea : June 16th, 2019-15:49
Now a friend of mine, way back in Chicago
You know, he finally made his pile.
Well he got himself a mansion on Butler and Sheff
An' he was livin' in the latest style;
But I run into him, he was eatin' in a greasy spoon
While parked in front was his big limousine.
I said, "Buddy, you've got so much money
How come you're in here, eatin' beans?"

An' he said
After you've been havin' steak for a long time,
Beans, beans taste fine.
An' after you've been drinkin' champagne and brandy
You gonna settle for wine.
He said "The world is funny, and people are strange,
And man is a creature of constant change, and
After you've been havin' steak for a long time
Beans, beans taste fine."

Now, you know I ran into another friend of mine
In a rowdy old Clark Street Bar.
I said, "Friend, is it true what I heard about you?
I heard you married a beautiful 18-year-old shapely movie star,
Yet here you sit, tryin' to make out with some barfly
Who's too old and ugly to be true."
He said, "Shelley, you're still a very young man
So sit down. I'll explain it all to you.

He said
After you've been havin' steak for a long time
Beans, beans taste fine.
An' after you've been drinkin' champagne and Chivas Regal
You gonna settle for Thunderbird wine.
He said "The world is funny, and people are strange,
And man is a creature of constant change, and
After you've been havin' steak for a long time
Beans, beans taste fine.")

So After you’ve been havin’ Pateks for a long time, Habrings Habrings taste fine!


Shelley . . .

 By: Dr No : June 16th, 2019-16:33
. . . Berman?

Mary's unlikely smile . . .

Shel Silverstein

 By: cazalea : June 16th, 2019-16:51

I should've known! . . .

 By: Dr No : June 16th, 2019-17:15
. . . smile . . .

Sometimes just too simple is simply too good to pass up [nt]

 By: Thomas_3 : June 15th, 2019-21:03
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 By: : June 15th, 2019-21:43

That crown operated chrono is just so cool! [nt]

 By: Bounce781 : June 15th, 2019-22:02
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yes very simple but really stunning [nt]

 By: : June 16th, 2019-01:08
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Wow, Julian. Both are beautiful

 By: ChristianDK : June 15th, 2019-22:06
Both designed by WM?

Yes - one is the TZ 21 and the other ,the new MassenaLab [nt]

 By: : June 16th, 2019-01:07
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he Did very well on both

 By: ChristianDK : June 16th, 2019-20:31
The TZ is very elaborate in its details- exquisite.
What are your impressions about them?

Is that the TZ Habring?

 By: ik2000 : June 16th, 2019-11:25
I was very close to pulling the trigger on that one!!

yes , the first one which was released a few years ago [nt]

 By: : June 16th, 2019-13:33
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NO. Not too simple

 By: ChristianDK : June 15th, 2019-22:07
as it turns out in the long run - simple is often better 

Here is my story

 By: Jocke - Bad Santa : June 15th, 2019-23:53




There is a small little company in the middle of Austria in Völkermarkt that made their own watches. Habring² is the name and it might have been the 2 Habrings as well.

The company runs by the married couple Richard & Maria Habring since 2004. Richard has a past at the IWC where he was involved in the development of their

movements and worked at A Lange & Söhne until he took the full step and became an independent watchmaker who had goal to make their own watches.



In the early years, they worked with ETA & Valjoux movements as a base and made their own unique solutions. In 2011, the start of the in-house movement 

A11B began, meaning A=Austria, 11=2011 start of development, B=Basis, later complications were added as A11D=Date, A11S=Jumping second,

A11SD=Jumping second with date. On the 10th anniversary of the company September 16, 2014, the first inhouse movements were ready and then the A11B

was presented in the Felix model with a sub second.



It's really nice to see how they put things together.



Handmade when it's at its best, they produce around 200 watches each year.



They even cut the hairspring too.



And finally I'm ready to show what I've got, a Habring² Felix and here is the models to choose on.



All those pics you have seen until now belongs to Habring² and a huge thanks to you that allow me to use them.

Now it's time for me to bring out the camera bacause it is unboxing time.


It comes wrapped in plain white paper.



That contains a wooden box.



The first I find is a nice notebook.



And below the book there it is.



When I lift up the first wooden section did I find some spareparts like hands, crown, gaskets and springbars.



The logo at the dial is nice and clear.



So now we take a look at the watch.

It's a Habring² Felix with silver-white satinated metal dial with red gold plated hour bars/digits and black print & polished red gold plated hands.?  



When the watch was ready Maria ask what strap I want, I choose the bright brown strap and Maria try to convince me to go for the darker one that make the watch more powerful in her opinion.

Nope, I say: I want the bright one that match the color of the numbers better.As a suprise she add the darker brown in the package as a gift to me.



The case is 38,5mm, around 8mm thick include the spherical sapphire crystal which make it very comfortable on the wrist.



This dial have a brushed look surface that give a sober impression.



A oversized crown that I really like that is easy to handle for a guy with clumsy fingers that not work at a office.



The small second at 9 o'clock is not so common, the rings at the dial frame the second hand in a nice way.



Here is how the current movement looks today with the Habring² logo at the backplate .


Photo credit: Andy Garton


I like the "original" look better with the Habring² logo at the gear and a clean backplate that I guess was the first idea with this movement.


Photo credit: Habring²


So I was rude to ask Maria if I can get a backplate without the logo and I prepare for a lesson in behaivour.

Maria reply to me: We have ratchet wheels with the logo still in stock, but all plates have the engraved Habring² logo meanwhile. I can offer both together.

I was not ready to give up yet and say: Are you really sure? I'm ready to wait if you can to make one for me.

Then Maria says: Please let me check our stock. Maybe there is a little chance.

So my reply was: Just let me know when you have found it. smile))


The next day I got a pling in my mailbox with this message from Maria:

I have a wonderful message for you!

We have one bright (movement) without engraving left.

It is the last one really.

I think that it was waiting for you 😉

Do you want it?

Please find a picture attached.



Now we talking, a big smile on my face when I place the order.


And this is just what I like with the independent manufacturers, if they can made something special for the customer they do it.


And here is the lovely backside that have a really clean look but a lot of nice details that you can see against the sapphire crystal.



The movement is hand-wound with 48 hours' power reserve, 28.800 alternates per hour (4Hz), anti-magnetic escapement with a Carl Haas hairspring in chronometer quality and 18 jewels.



50 service-relevant single components (99 parts in total).



The tangential screw for fine adjustment is so cool.



Here is a short video how the click spring works.





Excellent post, Jocke. Thank you very much. Keith. [nt]

 By: kjkt3 : June 16th, 2019-18:14
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Heavens, No! Buy, buy!

 By: halgedahl : June 17th, 2019-09:21
The proportions of this piece are so harmonious! OK, probably not what you'll choose to wear to a soccer match. But it'll go with jeans as easily as with a suit. And just give them a call to see for yourself how friendly and helpful Maria is. Go for it. Best wishes!    FH

Thank you, all. You were right and ... I now have one! However, Habring2 straps are horrible, so ... would you please recommend a replacement? [nt]

 By: kjkt3 : July 11th, 2019-11:56
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Clarification: I have the "Felix, stainless steel, silver dial, black printed indices, red 12 and blue hands, movement A11B. Correction: The strap isn't so bad, really. ;-) [nt]

 By: kjkt3 : July 11th, 2019-14:32
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Just Like That Ol' Beach Boys Song...

 By: elliot55 : July 11th, 2019-15:28
... Run, Don't Walk.

Great watch from great people.  Superb value from the "organic watch farmers".

I worried, same

 By: Mostel : July 14th, 2019-13:58
But I do admire Habring a lot.

If you go pre-owned, there's no reason to hesitate at all.

But if you buy new... yes... I share your concern. If it is 'boring' to you, you will be stuck w a hard sell watch. Lose big. This matters.

No matter how wonderful the Habrings are... they can not save you from the after market.

When in doubt, ALWAYS buy pre-owned.

Good luck.

Perhaps I'm lucky, but I never worry about selling watches. In this case, the Habring2 Felix Red 12 is beautiful 'in the flesh' and a classic keeper, anyway. [nt]

 By: kjkt3 : July 14th, 2019-17:59
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 By: Mostel : July 14th, 2019-18:07
I'm so glad to hear that!!!

Less is more... [nt]

 By: Francisco Scaramanga : July 15th, 2019-02:55
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