London's latest tourist attraction!

 By: sham1 : September 9th, 2019-07:53
I am in London for a few days to attend a Patek event and took the opportunity this morning to drop by at the newly launched Philips' watch boutique called Perpetual based at 30 Berkeley Square.  I had the pleasure to meet James Marks, a renowned specialist and a director at Philips who graciously spent a lot of time explaining to me about the two watches I chose to view. Now some of you here might know that I have actually ordered a RW Smith Series 2 but I had not really tried it on before ordering it simply because one would be hard pushed to see a RW Smith anywhere to try on.  So I was pretty excited to finally try on the Series 2 even though the latest version might have a slightly more rounded case around the edges,.  The Series 2 at Philips is from 2006 and is one of the first made, hence spotting the first generation co axial escapement.  As James Marks emphasized today, it was largely hand made whereas the later watches had more machine content in them. The 38mm diameter of the Series 2 suited me fine and so did the the weight but I am a little concerned over the 13mm height of the watch or is 13.5mm!  

I also noticed an attractive Dubai Edition MB&F LM1 which I particularly like due to the lovely dial and the titanium case.  Those who know me will know I tend to favour light watches so this watch ticked all the right boxes. Philips is the only MB&F authorised used dealer in the UK.

May I highly recommend any purist visiting London to drop by at Philips to view the Perpetual boutique. There are about 30 watches on show including Pateks, a FP Journe Tourbillon and some other quite exquisite delights so really, something for everyone!  smile

Finally! The Series 2 on my wrist.

Too thick possibly?

I love the way the movement fills up the case back

Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder but I love this dial!

Just wow!

Thanks for the little snapshot

 By: rnaden : September 9th, 2019-08:04
The Series 2 is just amazing. The amount of detail and work on both sides of the watch is not something you get every where is is very special. The thickness is surprising though, especially for a manual winding watch. How did it feel on the wrist. I realize that on the wrist feel is all that matters, as at the end of the day, the numbers don't quite mean anything as it needs to be cohesive.

The MB&F is very nice, though that domed sapphire is a matter of taste. For me, I think I'd end up bumping it against furniture and destroying it very quickly ;-)

Looking forward to being able to see your Series 2 in due time, my friend!


Thank for your reply Richard.

 By: sham1 : September 9th, 2019-08:10
I think with the MB&F, I half expect it to bump into things as it is 16mm plus high so I would be extra careful when wearing it eg only to purists GTGs!  But to bump the RW Smith into something would be heart breaking - at least with the MB&F, it is the glass that is making contact with an object but with the RW Smith, it is the actual rose gold case!!

The dial of RW Smith is amazing but I truly think that it's thicker than it should be. [nt]

 By: aris d : September 9th, 2019-08:14
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I think so too!

 By: sham1 : September 9th, 2019-08:17
Roger stressed that he would like to make a robust product but I noticed that Kari Voutilainen also offers a three dimensional view of his movement in a case 2 to 3mm slimmer.  Yes 13mm will still fit under a shirt cuff but part of the elegance of watch to me is its height in relation to its diameter.

Thanks so much for sharing, the RWS is amazing.

 By: Spangles - Mr. Tabby : September 9th, 2019-12:41
Yes, the thickness is a concern, but I think you will quickly become used to it for yours (which is coming soon, right?).

Also, I don't think the KV is so much thinner! It's 12mm, right?

These are gentleman's watches, after all, not dress watches.

I guess one might argue

 By: sham1 : September 9th, 2019-12:58
that the RW Smith also has power reserve indicator. I think the Vingt 8 is 11mm but I might be wrong. I know Kari would make a 37mm Vingt 8 with a height of just over 10mm.  And thank you for your reply. I think I will 'get used' to the thickness. I just feel when spending so much on a watch, it would be good if there were zero shortcomings.

I agree, please let me know when you find a zero shortcomings watch!

 By: Spangles - Mr. Tabby : September 9th, 2019-13:29

I have found three so far!!

 By: sham1 : September 9th, 2019-13:36
1. The Lang and Heyne Friedrich III  -superb movement, gorgeous dial, accurate beyond belief and light in stainless steel
2. The Moritz Grossmann Atum 37 - the piece unique that I am privileged to own is a class act in simplicity and accracy.
3. The Patek Philippe 7200R London Edition - Breguet hands, Breguet numeals, lovely lugs, limited to only 80 pieces.

The astonishing movement of the Friedrich III

An enamel dial, ultra thin hands and a mirror of perfection

34.6mm of pure bliss. It was classified as a ladies watch but I beg to differ

Those are all lovely, you are blessed to have them. The RWS will be in good company. [nt]

 By: Spangles - Mr. Tabby : September 9th, 2019-13:46
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You are too kind for saying so, thank you very much!!

 By: sham1 : September 9th, 2019-13:50
The 3 watches I showed you are the core of my collection, watches that I really hope will be keepers.  The RW Smith will probably be the leader of the pack!!  smile

Roger talks about this in one of his online interviews, doesn't he? He likes the vertical aspects of a watch. [nt]

 By: kjkt3 : September 9th, 2019-13:49
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Do you mean the height of his watches?

 By: sham1 : September 9th, 2019-13:55
I must confess I missed that interview.  I have little doubt that Roger decided on the 13mm case height after taking all factors into account.  

The thickness...

 By: mdg : September 9th, 2019-15:41 my only issue with RS watches. The quirky, hand-finished look is a plus in my book.

It is my only issue too.

 By: sham1 : September 9th, 2019-23:01
It does not help that all my other watches are quite slim relatively but I still look forward to its arrival because it is quite a league up from anything else I own. Thank you for your reply.

Thanks for the pics my friend . Two beautiful and amazing watches .

 By: Watchonthewrist : September 9th, 2019-08:21
The RWS is a real dream watch , love every angle of it . For me the thickness would not be a problem .
The MB&F is also a gorgeous watch with a stunning green dial . Would love to add a LM in the near future but then a LM101 because its 40mm and a bit more weareble imho

Yes the LM101 is more wearable

 By: sham1 : September 9th, 2019-08:29
but the height of the watch remains the same making the curve more pronounced on the 40mm case than on the 44mm case of LM1. I have seen you wear your Urwerk very well on your wrist which makes me think that the LM1 would also suit your wrist fine due the short curved lugs.  I cannot say no to RW Smith due to its height - such is the allure of this watch that this minor imperfection is dwarfed by the overall beauty of the dial, hands, case and movement!  Thank you my friend for your encouragement.

Thanks for sharing. I really like this MBF LM Green. [nt]

 By: amanico : September 9th, 2019-08:36
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You probably have heard this before Nico

 By: sham1 : September 9th, 2019-08:43
 you have exquisite taste!  smile

At least a very personal one. ;) [nt]

 By: amanico : September 9th, 2019-08:45
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Hi Sham... I have extensive experience wearing

 By: CL : September 9th, 2019-09:22
the Roger Smith series 2 before. No doubt it wears high but it has a very elegant presence. The height doesn't make the watch less elegant but it adds a very charming vibe to it. Also, the watch height makes it more prominent on our wrist and I find that it actually helps prevent us from banging the watch. We are more aware when we wear this legend. I'm not into thick watch but this one is perfectly great, same can be said to Patek 5004 and 3448, both scream elegance.

Thank you for your feedback and for your convincing argument!

 By: sham1 : September 9th, 2019-12:48
There is little doubt that the RW Smith is something quite special. I doubt if it will be my daily watch and will be reserved for special occasions so the height should not be too much of a bother.

Great pictures, Sham

 By: ChristianDK : September 9th, 2019-10:26
I think the RS looks amazing. I does sit proud of the wrist in your picture. I have never tried, but I don’t think it is an everyday watch. The way I’m thinking about it: It is something exquisite for when you are in the mood for something special. So in this light the thickness is not a big problem. It is “only” 13 mm after all. I think you should just look forward to getting yours. I’m sure it will be something fantastic.
Btw. Any pictures of the Journe? 😁

Thank you Christian!

 By: sham1 : September 9th, 2019-12:52
I am afraid I did not ask to try on the Journe and only focused on these two watches.  I think owning a RW Smith will give me a level of self satisfaction I am not accustomed to.  The brand has an aura like no other (apart from Daniels).  Not many brands can get away with a 4 or 5 year waiting list and in my case I actually extended my wait for another 2 years as I need to sell my London flat to help finance this once in a lifetime purchase.

I am dead sure you will be very happy with it

 By: ChristianDK : September 9th, 2019-13:14
It is it’s own league.
OMG no pic of the FPJ - Blasphemy!!

I get scared of tourbillons :-)

 By: sham1 : September 9th, 2019-13:29
so I did not even ask to see the watch. James Marks of Philips was wearing a FP Journe Octa himself and mentioned the exceptionally high cost of servicing so I thought just as well that I did not try on the tourbillon even though I must confess that it did look very good.  I can tell you are a great fan!

Haha yes

 By: ChristianDK : September 9th, 2019-13:42
I understand. Tourbillon are not my first choice either. I do think though, that if was I to ever own one, FPJ would be one of the best candidates smile

For me, it would have to be

 By: sham1 : September 9th, 2019-13:48
the Jean Daniel Nicolas which for me is the best looking tourbillon around! For me anyway  smile

Yes, that is a home run also!

 By: ChristianDK : September 9th, 2019-15:10
By the old master himself....

I really like this one as well. So pure and simple -  yet original...

Ah the sublime Haldimann!

 By: sham1 : September 9th, 2019-22:58
Very nice but may I politely ask what is the after sales service like for this brand? I always ask when a small brand makes a complicated gem.
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