SIHH 2019: Montblanc 1858 Automatic Bronze LE of 1858 pieces.

 By: amanico : January 24th, 2019-06:45

The cool daily beater, which has character. That's what Montlbanc certainly had in mind when releasing this version of the 1858 Automatic. 

Just the strictly useful, here, with no date nor seconds. Hours, Minutes and basta cosi, as our Italian friends use to say. 

The movement is automatic, the Cal MB 24.15, beating at 28, 800 vibrations per hour, and offering a power reserve of 38 hours. 

The case is made in an alloy of aluminium and bronze, and has some very nice beveled lugs. You can be a beater and have an elegant case! 

It is 40 mm big, and 11, 07 mm high.

The back has an engraving, the Spirit of Mountain ", which I didn't have the time to take in picture.  

The dial is khaki green, very cool looking, with vanilia colored indices and Cathedral hands for the retro look. 

And cherry on the cake, a cool  " Nato Style ", a very good band. 

A nice watch, but Montblanc should not abuse of these bronze cases, in my opinion. It starts to be too much. 



They see the success of 5522A? [nt]

 By: I_am_Clueless : January 24th, 2019-07:24
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What's that? Patek Pilot? [nt]

 By: amanico : January 24th, 2019-08:00
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Yes....this one 😬

 By: I_am_Clueless : January 24th, 2019-08:42

In 2016, Montblanc released watches like this. And maybe even a tad before. ;) [nt]

 By: amanico : January 24th, 2019-08:50
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Yeah, it's the Calatrava Pilot 2017 Special Edition.

 By: Pour le Mérite : January 24th, 2019-08:45
Yesterday someone told me the bronce rattrapante chronograph would like a Hanhart... :0

He he he... Too good! [nt]

 By: amanico : January 24th, 2019-08:48
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If! Just if, I'm convinced it would be Patek who mimicked anyone.

 By: Pour le Mérite : January 24th, 2019-08:42
With the integration of Minerva, Montblanc has lots of heritage in pilot watches.

You might be right 👍🏻, I’m not familiar with others so I based on what I know. [nt]

 By: I_am_Clueless : January 24th, 2019-08:45
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It's okay. We all share something common and none can know everything.

 By: Pour le Mérite : January 24th, 2019-08:49
That's why I'm here. The knowledge is beyond every other forum.

I can only agree about the integration of Minerva. [nt]

 By: amanico : March 2nd, 2019-00:17
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Agree, it is getting too much in using bronze case. [nt]

 By: Watchlover78 : January 24th, 2019-07:49
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Yes, they should be careful with that... [nt]

 By: amanico : January 24th, 2019-08:01
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I certainly like the concept but just can't make

 By: Thomas_3 : January 24th, 2019-08:57
myself take a liking to bronze cases.

There is a steel version which is not bad looking, either. [nt]

 By: amanico : January 24th, 2019-09:32
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I like it

 By: COUNT DE MONET : January 24th, 2019-11:13
Bronze is in fashion at the moment, so why not?
Combo with a green dial (like IWC did in its 42 mm chrono) is also a winning combination.
I assume the bronze does not go green, like the IWC's?

No, Montlblanc told me that it will turn more brown. [nt]

 By: amanico : January 24th, 2019-12:21
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It seems like green is the new brown. Patina seems to be equal. [nt]

 By: Bill : January 24th, 2019-11:31
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Yes! I had the same idea... Thanks, Bill. [nt]

 By: amanico : January 24th, 2019-12:21
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I like the clean lines and the old-timey pilot's style

 By: reintitan : January 24th, 2019-17:35
but, and here's a dumb question, why didn't Richemont just market these Montblanc watches with Minerva movements as Minervas?

Montblanc would have their Timewalker and other lines with their own brand name which makes sense, but for the high-end and Minerva movement watches they should've kept the Minerva name on the dial.  

I think it would have given them more "street cred" from the Watch Illuminati (WI™).  I'm trade-marking that term here on WatchProSite by the way smile LOL

Because this one doesn't house a Minerva movement... [nt]

 By: amanico : January 24th, 2019-17:36
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But the ones with the Minerva movements and the $30K price tag... [nt]

 By: reintitan : January 24th, 2019-17:49
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Yes, these ones, yes, but is the name more important than the watch " per se "? [nt]

 By: amanico : January 24th, 2019-23:28
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Great, great looking piece, but...

 By: Mr.Gatsby : January 25th, 2019-10:42
You’re right to say so, about getting tired of bronze cases and green dials. Also I’ve been skeptical about Montblanc even though they’ve done a wonderful job the past couple of years. I just cannot relate pens to watches. When I think about watches, I think about history, world wars, and men with their tall hats and pocket watches. That gives a watch it’s soul.

Ah my friend.... About bronze cases, we can only agree. It starts to become boring. As for the legitimity for Montblanc to make nice watches, I think they are doing a great job...

 By: amanico : January 25th, 2019-11:55
IF they take care of their clients in two ways, the service, and the limited development of ... Limited Editions of the same... 

Now, as for the soul, you can only find it in vintage watches, that's for sure. 

All the best! 


Like the size and minimalism...

 By: KMII : February 2nd, 2019-22:04
But like you say, slowly we are seeing possibly too much bronze.

I hope Montblanc will listen... [nt]

 By: amanico : February 2nd, 2019-23:46
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 By: : March 1st, 2019-16:54
has a great history and is building onto that history with a BANG.  I have invested (yes invested) in two 1858 chrono’s, the 2016 chrono of the year (SS with blue dial) and the new bronze with a Salmond dial, the new one is the most accurate watch I’ve ever owned and only 100 of each.  I love history also but the Minerva movement is history and I believe one of the top movements in the world.  At least from a historical and workmanship view.  The newer independents are creating other style movements that are gorgeous in their own right but there is not much that can beat a Minerva movement with rose gold accents filling up the entire case back of a 44 mm watch… Jim 

aaah, Jim, I share the same love and passion than you about the 1858 Tachymeter. I only own one, the Blue, but I am seriously considering the Split Seconds, now... You? [nt]

 By: amanico : March 2nd, 2019-00:18
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I went with the salmond Dial

 By: : March 2nd, 2019-18:28
I’m hoping the split second might come out in a different material and dial, I’m not drawn to “snail” type dial on this model...Jim
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