The King is DEAD...long live the KING 🀴 πŸ˜‰

 By: holdemchamp1225 : November 9th, 2022-17:46
Ever heard the expression OLD Cow - NEW Cow ?

In this instance, I think it applies well 🀣

Always considered the Double Split the original King of Chronographs but in my honest opinion the new MB&F Sequential Evo has dethroned the King.

2 different types of Chronographs and watches in general which can still exist in any chronograph fan's collection πŸ˜‰πŸ‘Œ

Not the greatest photo so I will take a few in natural light tomorrow πŸ€ͺ

Every good reign is lucky to pass the crown to a worthy successor...

 By: patrick_y : November 9th, 2022-18:15

Makes perfect sense Patrick πŸ˜‰

 By: holdemchamp1225 : November 9th, 2022-21:28

I’m this case I absolutely agree..

 By: jp884 : November 9th, 2022-18:19
The MB&F is more impressive technically but the DS is more impressive visually on the back but not the front. Both great chronographs to have my friend.

Both are great for different reasons indeed bro πŸ˜‰

 By: holdemchamp1225 : November 9th, 2022-21:29

Both brilliant,

 By: InHavenPro : November 9th, 2022-18:23
but I am easily partial to the MB&F. It's mind-boggling without a doubt! Thanks for the pics!! Cheers, Filip

I hear and agree with you Filip πŸ˜‰πŸ™

 By: holdemchamp1225 : November 9th, 2022-22:49

The DS is, inho, still the King.

 By: COUNT DE MONET : November 9th, 2022-19:30
The DS can do more with one movement than the MB&F can do with two.

If you press the ten o'clock button twice, it will record and display the best lap or worst lap, with the hands either moving forwards or backwards!

The MB&F is visually striking and "easier" to understand and handle but it is, imho, not as ground breaking as the DS was and still is.

You are a very lucky man to own both!


 By: dedestexhes : November 9th, 2022-19:52


 By: BigAppleBill : November 9th, 2022-20:56

I see your point my friend but trust me when I say the Sequential Evo is superior in terms of being a pure chronograph...

 By: holdemchamp1225 : November 9th, 2022-22:53
The Double Split is more complex BUT the Sequential Evo CAN do what the Double Split does and also much more in a more practical and simpler way.

I agree with you about the Double Split being a ground breaking reference, which it still is, but looking at the functionality of the Sequential Evo, it really isn't close.

See my response below where I try to explain in detail why I think the way I do πŸ˜‰πŸ™

+1...or the Triple Split

 By: vitalsigns : November 10th, 2022-00:05

THAT is crazy!

 By: amanico : November 10th, 2022-03:34

Triple Split is AMAZING but the Double Split was 1st and the Godfather. As for the Sequential Evo, it's just an evolution and much more innovative πŸ˜‰

 By: holdemchamp1225 : November 12th, 2022-23:10

I don’t know about this 10:00

 By: darrony : November 10th, 2022-14:45
Pusher feature. Need to learn more!

The double 10 function is not so well known.

 By: COUNT DE MONET : November 10th, 2022-19:23
As mentioned:
if the best lap time is shorter, both hands (minutes and seconds) move backwards!

The Sequential Evo CAN do ALL the functions of the DS and many more my friend. You are more than welcome to borrow mine to find out for yourself. I have already used the DS, TS, and many other high end chronos to time events of different kinds...

 By: holdemchamp1225 : November 12th, 2022-23:12
The Sequential Evo just does it better, easier, and offers many more options πŸ˜‰

I am in total agreemen with the Count

 By: Gelato Monster : November 10th, 2022-14:49
especially the lucky man


 By: COUNT DE MONET : November 10th, 2022-19:18

In my opinion, one compliments and complements the other.

 By: amanico : November 9th, 2022-21:18

πŸ˜†That was cleverπŸ˜‰

 By: myles721 : November 9th, 2022-21:53

Solomon Judgement. ;)

 By: amanico : November 9th, 2022-21:54


 By: holdemchamp1225 : November 12th, 2022-23:12


 By: amanico : November 12th, 2022-23:32

While an interesting juxtaposition...

 By: chap : November 9th, 2022-21:20
Let's go a step deeper...  The king chrono should also be fit for a King.

A great king doesn't need to be verbose, but true power is best displayed doing less, with an elegant boldness.  

I guess all of us have our own subjective points of view πŸ˜‰

 By: holdemchamp1225 : November 12th, 2022-23:13

Two very nice pieces

 By: penfriend : November 9th, 2022-21:31
I favor the DS of those two due to its timeless design. But are they the Kings of chronographs? To me, this leaves out of debate the Minerva MB hand wound chronographs. A king must not necessarily be the most complicated object, its also about doubtless history of chronographic achievements, finish and basic technical layout to me (like we have it there with the 16.29 caliber).

We all have our own opinions my friend...

 By: holdemchamp1225 : November 9th, 2022-21:55
But as a fan of Chronographs with triple digit Chronographs in my collection ranging from vintage to modern, monopushers to double Rattrapantes, Foudroyantes, manual winds, automatics, several from the 1930s, 1940s, 1950s, 1960s, 1970s, 1980s, 1990s, 2000s, 2010s, 2020s, etc...I think I am in a rather unique position to give an objective point of view πŸ˜‰πŸ‘Œ

Although Minerva Chronographs are beautifully finished and spectacular, they are in no way near the top of ICONIC Chronographs my friend. There isn't one single Minerva caliber that has or will do anything different technically than anything before or after it was created πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

The reason why I named the Double Split as the King of manual wind Chronograph watches is due to the fact that it is UNIQUE in the wrist watch world. NO OTHER wrist watch does what the Double Split was designed to do EVER in the history of horology up until the Triple Split, another Lange creation πŸ˜‰. Think about the GIANTS of horology from AP, JLC, Patek, VC, etc...NONE of them have ever developed a WORKING double rattrapante. Why?

We can hypothesize the reason being the lack of needing one, the popularity of a double rattrapante, the basically useless nature and practicality of having one, etc...but that doesn't change the innovation and technical merit.

We can ask a forum of passionate collectors to horological scholars for their opinion on iconic and important chronographs from different eras and I can assure you the name Minerva would be uttered pretty much never, no offense intended πŸ˜‰

What we would hear is chronographs with Lemania calibers, Venus calibers, Longine caliber, up to the Datograph, Duometre, other Lemania calibers inside the Patek 5070 series, etc...

In the end, we have to come back to horological significance and what the Double Split represents in the history of chronographs hence why I named it the King of Chronographs in my humble opinion.

Fast forward to this year with this MB&F Sequential Evo. I need to ask if the members who have responded to this thread have even handled or used the Sequential Evo for different timing events? If not, then how can you know how capable it is or how easy / practical it is to use?

In the past few days of owning mine, I have put it through a battery of tests which is why I am convinced it is the new King. NOTHING comes close to usage, function, and practicality.

It might not be to everyone's taste and the look is polarizing but there is no denying the technical merit. This Sequential Evo is a GAME CHANGER if there ever was one in the Chronograph space.

I challenge anyone to prove me wrong and I would be happy to lend them mine or bring mine for them to try against ANY chronograph made today.

Please remember the reason why a chronograph even exists. The nature of a chronograph is to time something. Well, nothing and I repeat, nothing in the mechanical chronograph domain does it better or in more ways than this Sequential Evo.

We can debate the looks, elegance, shape, color, etc...but we cannot debate its technical capabilities πŸ˜πŸ˜‰

Hope I didn't offend anyone's sensibilities πŸ€£πŸ˜‚

Well, I have to see this MBF before any final judgement. :)))

 By: amanico : November 9th, 2022-21:57

You will see it mon ami BUT that still doesn't change it's technical merits πŸ˜€πŸ˜†πŸ€£πŸ˜‚

 By: holdemchamp1225 : November 9th, 2022-22:00
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