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Zeitwerk Date

 
 By: MTR : October 19th, 2019-05:21
The more I follow up with the Zeitwerk Date the more this watch starts to fascinate (haunt??) me.







The longer PR (72 hours) is very practical for me since I like to change watches after one or two days. The solution for the date is very appealing and gives to the dial a certain „twist“ which I appreciate very much.
The 42 mm don’t disturb me at least. I am Panerai proven. 😎

It would be my first ALS. And at the moment I am very excited about this piece. But until now I just have made research on the internet and have no personal experience.

What do you think? Does anybody have personal experience / hands-on experience with the Zeitwerk Date?

Thanks in advance 🙏

Best
Thomas



If you got the wrist for it...

 
 By: recoveringwatchaholic : October 19th, 2019-06:24
It wears pretty much the same as the larger Zeitwerk models, which I prefer. Only handled the locked movement/dummy piece, but the functions seem to be pretty intuitive and easy to use. Solid choice for your first Lange.



Thank you,

 
 By: MTR : October 19th, 2019-13:02
that is a very helpful answer. Are you tempted to pull the trigger?

Cheers
Thomas

Tempted for sure...

 
 By: recoveringwatchaholic : October 19th, 2019-17:54
...but I'll see if they introduce any new dial color options in the future. Anyway, letting the funds recover since my last Lange purchase first. Lol.

Welcome here, by the way! [nt]

 
 By: amanico : October 19th, 2019-23:49
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if that was meant for me...

 
 By: recoveringwatchaholic : October 20th, 2019-07:45
thanks! lol

just an extension of the instagram handle. Been lurking for a while now. smile

LOL!

 
 By: MTR : October 20th, 2019-04:15
Now I understand your name better! 😁

My name should be „Wantstoreducehiscolletionsignifiantlybuthasalreadyfivenewwatchesinfocuswhichhavetobesiftedoutorfunded“
😬

Best
Thomas

LOL

 
 By: recoveringwatchaholic : October 20th, 2019-07:51
we're getting there... with a few relapses along the way *facepalm*

Small relapses 😁 [nt]

 
 By: MTR : October 21st, 2019-15:48
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I am an adept of the " more is less " rule when it comes to the Zeitwerk; For me, the original is the most tempting. [nt]

 
 By: amanico : October 19th, 2019-11:06
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Yes, less is more.

 
 By: MTR : October 19th, 2019-13:17
Most of the time.

But above all stands for me: form follows function.

And the Date has one huge advantage: the longer PR of 72 hours. 36 hours are too little for my daily needs.

Amitiés
Thomas

True. You have a point. [nt]

 
 By: amanico : October 19th, 2019-14:30
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I've tried the Zeitwerk Date on many times.

 
 By: DarrenKats : October 19th, 2019-11:39
Was underwhelmed when it first came out but it's grown on me to the point where I am definitely considering it. It is  noticeably larger than the original Zeitwerk but also noticeably thinner than the striking time. The new movement with the longer power reserve and the button to advance the hour is very nice. I love the sporty black dial white gold versions but the gray dial give a bit more dressy/elegant feel. I hope to obtain a Zeitwerk one day but choosing which version is very difficult. The Date is incredible in person and would be an outstanding choice if the diameter is not a problem for you. 



Thanks a lot for your

 
 By: MTR : October 19th, 2019-13:34
comprehensive advice.

I share your thoughts.

For me personally the Zeitwerk Date is from an aesthetic and functional point of view the most interesting and appealing concept.

Which version do you favour the most?

Best
Thomas

Which version do I favor?

 
 By: DarrenKats : October 19th, 2019-21:40
Really depends on what day you ask. smile
I like them all and only know that I prefer them in white gold.

Hahaha!

 
 By: MTR : October 20th, 2019-04:08
Interesting answer!!

I prefer white metals, too.

Best
Thomas

I dont like the zeitwerk

 
 By: Reuven Malter : October 19th, 2019-13:24
Yet the new date makes it more balanced. I think that really is the best version.

For me the best version, too

 
 By: MTR : October 20th, 2019-04:17
Thanks for your reply.

love the zeitwerk...

 
 By: avseg : October 19th, 2019-15:08
Just note that IIRC the zeitwerk date is actually 44.2mm.

Yes, of course.

 
 By: MTR : October 20th, 2019-04:20
But even the 0,2mm more don’t bother me.

😊

you said 42...

 
 By: avseg : October 20th, 2019-15:51
It's 44.2mm vs the 42mm you said in your OP.

You are right.

 
 By: MTR : October 21st, 2019-15:45
Thank you for clarifying.

Cheers
Thomas

As a Striking Time Owner...

 
 By: IndieFan : October 19th, 2019-15:09
I've been able to handle the new Zeitwerk date and for me, I much prefer the Striking Time, which is fortunate, as that's what I already own wink

If you need a date on your watch then the Zeitwerk Date is the watch you'd want, but if you like the idea of a chiming watch, then I much prefer the Striking or Decimal Strike versions. I don't love the date ring myself, and while I understand their reasons for the ring on the Zeitwerk, to me it makes the watch a little busy (you see every number digit and yet only one is relevant, so to me, it's a little too much).

I do prefer the date over the standard Zeitwerk however, as I find the standard Zeitwerk a little plain... which is what drew me to the Striking Time in the first instance, as the black polished hammers look incredible and provide great balance to the dial.

They are big watches, but I don't view the Zeitwerk range as a dress watch. If you want a Lange dress watch you look at the Richard Lange or 1815 ranges, and perhaps the simpler Saxonia pieces.




Dear IndieFan,

 
 By: MTR : October 20th, 2019-04:42
thank you very much for your comprehensive and interesting reply.

The date is not so necessary for me. And I am not searching for a dress watch but for something „special“.

Like you I prefer the Striking Time and the Date over the standard design.
They add that „certain something“ to this even so already fascinating piece of art.

The features that draw me to the Date are the lower height, the added button to advance the hour indication and above all the newly designed movement including a - for me - very practical 72 hours PR.

Best
Thomas

Thanks for sharing Thomas, but...

 
 By: IndieFan : October 20th, 2019-15:11
I personally don't like the hour button on this Zeitwerk.... a Zeitwerk is easy to adjust the time, so I much prefer not having a permanent button on the side of the watch to save 30 seconds of time. I LOVE the button on Lange perpetual calendars as it's incredibly convenient as you can avoid using pushers, but for simply forwarding an hour, I much prefer a cleaner button-less design. I believe Lange only added this hour button as a way of fast forwarding through dates (ie, skipping hours makes racing through days faster), so it's an added issue with having a watch with a date (something you don't have with the other older Zeitwerk models).

The extra power reserve is definitely nice, but to be honest, a Zeitwerk isn't a daily wearer for me so 36 V 72 makes no difference when it's in a rotation... I end up winding every single watch I wear on a daily basis regardless of its PR. Winding a Zeitwerk is a pleasure anyway, so I wouldn't put too much value on the extra PR unless it's a daily wearer. Maybe in 2020 they'll update their other Zeitwerk models with the longer PR, who knows?!

It simply boils down to whether you want the date or not and if you're comparing it to a standard Zeitwerk or a Striking Time. As you say, the Striking Time/Decimal Strikes do add something "special" to the watch, as does the date. The only way you'll really know is to try both of them on, but unfortunately that's not the easiest. Best of luck!

Thank you, IndieFan,

 
 By: MTR : October 21st, 2019-16:24
you for sure made some points.

In theory this might be a competition between “high romance” (Striking Time) and “romantic practicability” (modern movement with double PR in the case of the Date). Since both are romantic watches for me.

But - as we all know when it comes to choose the (at the moment) best watch of all possible watches - theorizing just helps to a certain degree.

I will try to find a possibility to compare the Date and Striking Time in flesh.

It all comes down to what I will feel when I put both models on my wrist.

Cheers
Thomas

Clearly I am more of a traditionalist when it comes to dial out.

 
 By: aperna : October 20th, 2019-05:08
However, this reference has been growing on me steadily. I’ve become enamored with its functionality and presence.

Tony, I definitely

 
 By: MTR : October 21st, 2019-15:44
have the same feelings here.

Best
Thomas

Since you wrote, "The date is not so necessary for me"...

 
 By: CR : October 20th, 2019-21:30
I'd seriously consider the Striking Time. I have tried the ZW Date and I really liked it. It's beautiful -- really well-executed. I don't own one of these, though.

I do own a Striking Time, which is huge on my 6"/154mm wrist. However, that's okay. I still enjoy wearing it even though it looks big.

Below are wrist pics of both. As you can see, the ZW Date is also huge. I didn't notice much of a difference between that and the Striking Time on my wrist, perhaps because both are so big in the first place.

You said you're looking for something a bit different, with a twist. Given your ambivalence about the date function, I think a chiming complication is a much nicer and more special twist than the ubiquitous date complication.

The Striking Time's relatively short power reserve is a feature for me, not a bug, because it means I have to wind the watch daily. Winding the ZW sloooowly -- savoring it -- is a true joy. The winding mechanism is like a stiff, precise ratchet. It's a very distinctive, unusual experience, unlike winding (all?) other Lange models.

Good luck in your decision. As long as you get some kind of Zeitwerk, you can't go wrong!





Thank you, dear CR,

 
 By: MTR : October 22nd, 2019-07:23
for your comprehensive and detailed reply which shows your passion very clearly.

Your vivid description of winding your Striking Time makes my mouth water... 😃

I know myself very well. When I come to a decision about a new watch I do this without fuss or quibble and with all my heart.

So this watch will be a permanent daily wearer for at least a few weeks and then in a rotation where I wear it many days without a break in “normal” daily life. So every of my watches also must have a practical approach and not be just a „romantic“ safe queen.

The picture of your Striking Time is breathtaking. A real beauty. I like the composition of the dial very much. Many congrats!

How delicate is your watch when it comes to wearing it in daily life?
I have read that the mechanism enabling the digital display needs enormous force which logically leads to a lower PR.

Does the chiming complication increase this effect? How frequent is the need for any repairs?

So many questions...

Perhaps you can help me with your experience?

Many thanks in advance,
Thomas
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