Buy the seller not the watch, but take a look at the watch anyway :)

Jun 09, 2018,14:24 PM
 

The watch seems genuine for me but you should do some research on the internet. The Chinese make fake PAM194, so my advice at first you should look for photos of the real PAM194 and fake PAM194 and compare them to the ones that the seller sent you. Then, I guess you buy the watch from a private seller and not a professional, which makes you panic and that's quite understandable, because I also assume that you can not go in person to the seller to see the watch in real life. Another way to make sure that the watch is real but has a chance to be realized is to ask him to show you the movement of the watch even if it will only help you a little, because the movement of the watch PAM194 is a Valjoux 7750 that is widely copied in China. Also try to see if the seller accepts Paypal, once you've received  the watch brings it to an AD and if there should be a problem Paypal should cover you. Finally, I do not know what this watch represents for you, but it's not an exceptional model from Panerai imo, and the one you present to us is in very bad condition and I guess it has no box neither paper. So, if i was you,  I would look for another one even if I have to pay an extra money for one  in better conditions. In my humble opinion it is better to pay a little more and have his watch than pay a little less and get scamed. Finally, if you are still ready to take the risk, take it. But do not forget why you came to ask for help on this forum in a first place and keep in mind that you should" buy the seller not the watch". 

I hope I have help you at least a bit, you should also keep in mind that the watch has a price, but the peace of mind doesn't. I was scammed once by a professional. I was able to get a refund,  but I can assure you that you do not want to go through this kind of story.
Good luck!


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 By: Abdelrahman : June 9th, 2018-12:55
Hello Gentlemen, I am willing to buy this used sub but i haveconcernsthat it may be fake, I readthat this one issupposed to be Limited edition of 1000 partsbut thisprticular one has’nt got a production number belowtheserial number as the other ones I foun...  

Buy the seller not the watch, but take a look at the watch anyway :)

 
 By: JP_iron_head : June 9th, 2018-14:24
The watch seems genuine for me but you should do some research on the internet. The Chinese make fake PAM194, so my advice at first you should look for photos of the real PAM194 and fake PAM194 and compare them to the ones that the seller sent you. Then, ... 

BE CAREFULL!

 
 By: JP_iron_head : June 9th, 2018-15:09
I just found some fake pam194 on internet which for some are really impressive and it's hard to tell the difference with a genuine one. You have the OP/BB number so call a Panerai boutique, and ask them if those number actualy exist, if yes it's a good si...  

Thank you all for your profuse replies

 
 By: Abdelrahman : June 9th, 2018-15:37
I have looked for pictures of the original on the internet . What raises suspicion is that none of the has these two screes I circled in red and that they have a production number in the place the arrow is pointing . And again i really appreciate your hel...  

+++1. [nt]

 
 By: amanico : June 9th, 2018-17:04

+1 [nt]

 
 By: Gelato Monster : June 9th, 2018-19:28

What makes you sure ?

 
 By: Abdelrahman : June 17th, 2018-09:04
The seller claims its original with papers , can u clarify for my what makes you sure it’s a fake?? Thank you

You're still at it?

 
 By: sergio : June 17th, 2018-09:34
get the papers and if you're satisfied with them and believe it's REAL, do go ahead and buy it. Fair? I'm not an official Panerai "appraiser" and even if I could enumerate all the flaws, I would NEVER do it, in a public forum. Why? Because I wouldn't want... 

That’s smart

 
 By: Abdelrahman : June 20th, 2018-08:08
Thanks alot

Thank you all for your help

 
 By: Abdelrahman : June 14th, 2018-10:38
I have looked for pictures of the original on the internet . What raises suspicion is that none of the has these two screes I circled in red and that they have a production number in the place the arrow is pointing . And again i really appreciate your hel...  

The "wrong" things with this...FAKE...

 
 By: sergio : June 20th, 2018-10:53
are so many that the push buttons (which are present in other recent models) don't even begin to come under question. I would VERY MUCH like to put this post...to bed. It's not very nice to have a FAKE Panerai on our front page...over and over again. OK? ... 

That is a Shocker!!!

 
 By: clive.joel : June 21st, 2018-05:34
Run away and fast!!! I have owned 3 194s since they were brought out as Special Editions in G Series 2004. That is a shocking fake believe me ...  

Pam 194G come with

 
 By: clive.joel : June 21st, 2018-05:44
Pam 194G come with COSC, Librettos, Movement Stickers, Certificate Scrolls showing Sports Watch Award for 2004, Kevlar Strap and OEM Rubber Accordion Strap. G 0000/1000 etc etc www.rolexforums.com