Even the pictures are FAKE....

Oct 15, 2019,11:10 AM
 

the dial is NOT a Pre-A one. The pictures are "blurred" (I suspect on purpose). Don't just walk away from this deal, RUN away... smile This below IS a Pre-A 004 dial. Notice the difference of the 6. All the Pre-A models have T-SWISS-T below the 6. T - (dash) SWISS - (dash) T




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Link between serial number and millesimation number

 
 By: Gaulix : October 15th, 2019-03:03
Hi. I came across this pam0004 T dial and am researching its validity. According to paneristi.com there should be a numerical link between the bb number and the mille number by 1400. So 6138 less 1400 should be A3438 but this shows A0327. So the quest...  

I've never heard of the 1400....

 
 By: sergio : October 15th, 2019-06:31
theory (I'm sure Paneristi is an impeccable source) but the case back in the picture belongs to a FAKE Panerai. As simple as that. Now, it would be nice to have a whole lot more pictures, front and back BUT I repeat, the one in the picture is belongs to a... 

Sergio knows his stuff, not questioning that

 
 By: Brandon Skinner : October 15th, 2019-08:07
But, to speak about the magic formula you read about elsewhere... that's definitely incorrect. The A number references the year (1998) the watch was produced. The number of 1500 is the millesimation of the number of that exact watch produced, which in thi... 

More pics

 
 By: Gaulix : October 15th, 2019-10:37
The link for the info is ...  

Even the pictures are FAKE....

 
 By: sergio : October 15th, 2019-11:10
the dial is NOT a Pre-A one. The pictures are "blurred" (I suspect on purpose). Don't just walk away from this deal, RUN away... This below IS a Pre-A 004 dial. Notice the difference of the 6. All the Pre-A models have T-SWISS-T below the 6. T - (dash) SW...  

NO....

 
 By: sergio : October 15th, 2019-14:33
the Pre-A are ALL "T-swiss-T". The models A+BT models are "T swiss T", with no dashes. The serial B comes with BT dials AND BL dials, since the Tritium was on it's way out and the later production's models, had Luminova dials. Submersibles are "T swiss ma... 

Thanks. Help me to understand....

 
 By: Gaulix : October 15th, 2019-14:47
The example above is a series A with T swiss T. How is it obviously a fake dial?

Under the second set of pictures....

 
 By: sergio : October 15th, 2019-15:09
there is a....LINK for the info: Paneristi reference... Pre-A_Panerai/Pre-A Panerai. html

I should have done it earlier but....

 
 By: sergio : October 15th, 2019-15:03
I'm a lazy old man. I took a picture of one of my Pre-A's back. Look how terse is the engraving, how deep it is and how the numbers DON'T touch each other. ...  

Ciao Segio. Appreciate your efforts to spread knowledge.

 
 By: Gaulix : October 16th, 2019-04:16
By the way, I notice that your watch conforms the to 1400 rule in the paneristi website. Subtract 1400 from the last 4 numbers of your BB number and it gives you the A number. Guess yours is real. 😉

In these situations....

 
 By: sergio : October 16th, 2019-06:54
it's common knowledge in the "watch maniacs" community, the adage: Buy the SELLER first, then the watch. Ciao