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This may not be the right thread...
...but you are certainly the right guy, Sergio...
...to ask about the 399.
I've tried to relate it to OP's vintage models and the best I could come up with so far is either:
A 6152 retro-fitted with an Angelus 240 SF & associated secs sub-dial and exhibition caseback. This was a popular practice with some (if not many) 3646 units that were brought in for repair work.
Alternatively, it's simply a 6152/1 w/o crown guard, aimed for the Italian combat swimmers (the crown guard normally only fitted for the rescue divers...).
Despite these suggestions, the missing "9" really brought my theories to a screeching halt... (for both the 399 and the 422) 
a penny for your thoughts...
-Serge
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just a thought
Over 500 FIVE HUNDRED references. Why ? Do we need 50 slightly different versions of the 111 ? I don't think so. Do we need 16 new models at SIHH( 8 standard production and 8 limited editions). And even after SIHH, during the rest of the year we get a lot...
I began losing track after Reference 300...
Especially since I have been collecting since 2001. My lowest number PAM now is a 27C. I had a PAM 2 up until last year. Of course many of these references are minor variants of other versions (how many 4xx Boutique Editions are there?), so development co...
Don't think too much, it is bad for health. :)
There is nothing to think about, here. It is Panerai's favourite layground, and of course you already know that. Best, Nicolas
I do like the PAM 205 ...
... oh sorry ... i meant the Peugeot 205 .. preferably a GTi ... :-)
In fact there is 438 Vendôme refs
Including Diamond pieces, SL replica (26, 27, 28), instruments (like PAM 302) and all one piece SL (like tourbillon PAM 205), I exclude sets refs (like PAM 780, 783, 791)
hello... You think anybody can afford less is more?
I agree with you but hype on Panerai went down already since a couple of years. Don't take a reference forums and paneristis, check with dealers you know, they are a much better indicator. The zillion new models thrown to the market are supposed to pump i...
Boy!
Boy did this thread strike a chord with you Fricks :) I'm kind of thinking this SE thing is way overdone and has ripping us off all over it, simply as most of them are ridiculous in style, etc. IMO, with pictures of places carved on the case backs, etc. A...
i feel they are pushing it a bit too much...
... its possible to handle "mistakes", a few marketing tricks here and there, but within the limits
Your historical knowledge of Panerai.....
is amazingly....missing. I enjoyed your quote..... The 398 and 399 special editions are a 422 without the crown protector and with huge premium. Who can justify the price and the logic behind it? i can't wait to hear it. end quote.... Don't worry about th...
This may not be the right thread...
...but you are certainly the right guy, Sergio... ...to ask about the 399. I've tried to relate it to OP's vintage models and the best I could come up with so far is either: A 6152 retro-fitted with an Angelus 240 SF & associated secs sub-dial and exh...
I am, also, not turning cart wheels....
about the no-9-small-seconds only models but the transitional (not quite an Egiziano Piccolo) flavour of this piece, plus the handsome Minerva movement makes it an intriquing model and, for my money, definetly a collector's piece. Ciao
I like your ability to synthetize but, what about....
accuracy? Firstly there are 5 "types" of models: Luminor, Radiomir, 1950 (btw the 372 IS a 1950), Mare Nostrum and Submersibles. Secondly, why not? The difference in references is very useful to Panerai when keeping track of mechanisms, spare parts etc Th...
Hi Bruno. I think it is their strategy to reach out to their fans and
collectors even when it is a Radiomir or Luminors designed differently. To the untrained eye like me I am lost in some of the numbers and models which they call on their limited production pieces. Don't forget each piece is produced yearly to as many as 2...
it's a simple strategy in fact .....
..... create a need to buy a new Panerai :) of course we don't need 500 ref. but it's just a great way to be in the picture as often as possible by launching a new model that is only a fraction different from an other ref. For me personally the lust for P...
Could NOT agree more
I love panerai, I love my 372....But it's ridiculous already. Has turned me off actually to the brand. Too many variations of the same thing over & over & over. I'm sure everyone is happy to hear this...One less person chasing the next hot LE!
My answer to Why? It's because Panerai can :)
That's the power of Panerai. There's so much demand for their watches that they can make all these different variations. Do I like all the variations? No but I'm happy to see them so I can easily pick out which ones I'd like to buy. If Panerai only made 5...
The more talks the more PAMs
Anthony, I agree with you completely, well said! The more they are talks of Panerai the more PAMs are needed. In those 12 or so last years, we saw different approaches, different watches, different people too, but we have not seen less PAMs…
As long as Panerai continues to make models for their core long term collectors
such as the PAM372 and other "clean" dial watches, then I don't see the harm in diversifying their collection to make other pieces to attract new customers. That is how business works. You continue to make product that your loyal customers want, and then ...
I was really happy that the 372 was not limited and freely available
It gives everyone an opportunity and when they sell no more They can easily pull it :) I congratulate panerai on this decision
The topic has become so amusing, really.
We discuss it on AP, on Hublot, here, and elsewhere. While I understand many hardcore collectors wish a brand would only make a a handful of models in limited numbers, that is not a sensible business model. It is like all of the people who complain about ...
