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Dial!
Let me shoot off my mouth first but I'll rather leave the issue of pricing out though, kinda of touchy and sensitive when it comes down to the so called "value" of a watch.
For me, the dial and overall appearance is more important as that is the emotional connection that Panerai has and evokes from me. I do understand the current direction Panerai is undertaking, even though it breaks the hearts of many old time collectors as I understand it.
And of course, for those who doesn't care about the movement, a solid caseback is a authenticity stamp to Panerai's roots too, isn't it?
Furthermore, I'm more of a historic person so I would rather leave out the modern trappings of a watch and stick to the old designs (which is of course detrimental to Panerai's future, hence its evolution since 2002 with their in-house movements, wouldn't you think so?)!
Lionel
Which are you more inclined to buy? An entry level PAM w/ Unitas or in-house P.9000 mvmt?
If you're in the market for a 44mm Panerai Luminor, would you be tempted to chose one of the new P.900x models over the Unitas models, if price is just a tad more expensive? Or does the movement not matter to you guys? And the overall look of the watch (i...
Dial!
Let me shoot off my mouth first but I'll rather leave the issue of pricing out though, kinda of touchy and sensitive when it comes down to the so called "value" of a watch. For me, the dial and overall appearance is more important as that is the emotional...
A lot of the old Panerai collectors feel the same way as you do
but I believe the new Panerai collectors prefer the in-house movements given the prices of Panerai's these days. Cheers, Anthony
Well, the broken record will sound again, I'm afraid
The dial, the hands;, the case and the movement have to fill a certain purpose, a common purpose: They were made as a toolwatch. So, the Unitas is perfect for that, and the so called " in house " movement ( in fact made by Valfleurier for Panerai...Not ma...
I'm biased & I have conflicting interest
But, Anthony, from the bottom of my heart......321, 320, 305 or 312 for sure. Quick set time. 72hrs. Auto. 1950 case. Thick presence without overwhelming e wrist. Great dynamic shape. Balanced, graceful & gaitful dial. From my sane brain, I say 000, 005, ...
Yeah I know how you feel
and I guess this question is kind of difficult to answer since the P.9000 movements are in the 1950 Luminor case instead of the regular Luminor case. I wonder if Panerai will ever cease the Unitas models down the road and swap all the historics to the P.9...
For me overall aesthetics are more important
Being an old timer the idea of an in-house movement is really not that critical to me. I do like however, the possibilities of the new 44mm 1950 case and am hopeful that it may take them to a base model sometime soon. The question really is for people tha...
Agreed. For old timers, the movement doesn't matter
but I think it will matter for the new people interested in Panerai. Someday Panerai will probably make a 44mm 1950 Luminor base w/ P.9000. It's just a matter of time IMO. Just like how many are waiting for a 47mm 1950 Luminor base. Cheers, Anthony
I would DEFINITELY pay up for the in-house movement
assuming similar design/layout...
I would only buy the 312 from the new models.
What i would love to see is the dial of the historic line into the 312 case and i would not care about the movement if it is mechanical or automatic. Answering to your question, yes i would buy the the 312 as the dial is quite simple and it can be an easy...
Depends i guess....
If we are talking entry level, id stick to the unitas..... essentially thats panerai history for u am i not right? although I guess its only a matter of time whereby we get more in-house movements in the entry level pams.......but as someone pointed out.....
P.9000 moved me
well..as a newbie with no Paneri in my collection...the P.9000 has got me interested at a good price point... previously looked at the P2000 offerings and could not pull the trigger...
Which of the P.9000 models are you interested in?
For what you get, I think the P.900x PAMs are priced accordingly in comparison with watches from other brands that have in-house mvmts IMO. Cheers, Anthony
for the MSRP....
well..I have been thinking that the 312 at $7400USD MSRP is an exceptional value for an in-house movement...for Panerai... just a matter of timing to see if I should wait a bit for the prices to calm down or should I join the fray...
Outer aesthetic is more important to me than the movement in a toolwatch
Anthony, as you know I'm a fan of the Unitas movements used in the PAMs under discussion, since I already own a couple non-Panerai watches housing the same, so I certainly can't deny the attractiveness of an entry level PAM with such an easily serviceable...
I hope the PAM305 will meet your metrics :)
I'll be getting one of these in the near future when budget permits. I know you like the PAM305 as well Cheers, Anthony...
It's certainly on my shortlist, Anthony!
I feel that personally, I'm at the point in the hobby where I need to decide how I'm going to structure future additions to my collection. Some people seem to have themes of various sorts, some people appear to buy whatever strikes their fancy that they c...
This watch is beautiful, this only default? The move!! This not an Unitas.
But i think that the PAM305 is one of the 10 greatest Panerai ever made. (and one of the 5 vendome)
Unitas! History, when Unitas build the 6497, i think they look the Cortebert, and for Dial
Simple, thof, pure... Panerai. The Dial, and also the manual winding, very différent than a Lange. Hard like you can imagine that will be a Panerai.
