Jurry
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Hi Eddie
Dec 07, 2019,08:28 AM
Much appreciated.
Please allow me evaporate one of the biggest nonsense scenes in this movie that apart from some items was/is a great movie;
- “hitting the brakes so the aircraft chasing you will pass you and as a result you’ve turned from being chased into the one chasing” is complete rubbish.
Imagine, the jet with Tom Cruise in it must have been doing something like 360-480 knots nautical miles per hour (for the metrics readers that’s 650-800 km per hour).
That’s a whopping 6-8 nautical miles or 10-13 kilometers per minute.
Let’s assume the chasing aircraft is flying just bit faster and is 1 mile behind you.
And that’s when Mr Cruise pulls throttles to idle and “hits the brakes” (meaning speed brakes) it will take few seconds to lose approx 50 knots hence the chasing aircrafts speed exceeds your speed by let’s say 100 nm per hour. Catching up that 1 mile distance takes 20-30 seconds.
That’s an ocean of time
- “oxygen mask” during the flight scenes they continuously take off the oxygen mask, than speak with each other, put on the mask when action is about to happen and than make their maneuvers.
In real live you put on the mask before takeoff and you take it off after landing. Three reasons
1) the microphone is build in the mask
2) if you have to make a sudden maneuver to save your life, would you throw away 3-5 seconds at 10 miles per minute to put your mask back on
3) it’s a protection against toxic gasses
BUT and there is a big BUT: it simply is one of the best movies ever and those low level flyby’s to rattle the cage of commanders and flight controllers: those are real (well back then they were)
For those who don’t belief it, I’ve added a picture of my very last flyby of my very last flight
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Ps nothing wrong with being a lawyer
By: Jurry : July 4th, 2019-12:14
When my flying days were over I moved into investment banking and left in 2006, well before the crisis brook out
My last flight
By: Jurry : July 4th, 2019-11:59
And this was shot during My very last low pass during my last flight ...
;) [nt]
By: amanico : July 4th, 2019-12:02
Many thanks
By: Jurry : July 5th, 2019-00:02
Well a PPL is meant for single seat single engine aircraft and the F16 is just that. There are two basic principles to flying: 1) what’s goes up will come down 2) if you’re pulling on the stick and the trees are getting bigger, you’re probably flying upsi...
That is a terrific capture.
By: MichaelC : July 6th, 2019-06:56
My Uncle flew the F4 Phantom many years, and logged over 4000 hours and mission time in Vietnam. I loved that aircraft, and sat in it several times as a youngster. These past few years, he has flown the plane at airshows. He is mid 70s now, but still gets...
One ride
By: Jurry : July 6th, 2019-07:02
I got one ride in the backseat of an F4, amazing machine Back in Vietnam it was an incredible machine and it still is Thanks for sharing
That’s very much appreciated
By: Jurry : July 6th, 2019-10:46
More than you can imagine I belief I’m one of the very few nonAmericans who flew combat in Iraq as member of the US Airforce and till today I’m proud I served
I’ve seen more guys
By: Jurry : July 6th, 2019-11:30
Suffering from that. But that’s more appropriate for PM rather than public website or forum Will drop you a note It’s good the US is taking care of such individuals
Hi Jurry - just a minor technical question when you have time.....
By: Eddie1 : August 13th, 2019-20:15
and a reply is not necessary. Thanks for your pic; it is a lovely piece of work, the F-16, and thanks for your service indeed; not easy to train and then fly those things well. Whilst I am not a great fan of Bremont - they do have some lovely timepieces -...
Hi Eddie
By: Jurry : August 14th, 2019-06:03
Sharp eyes I must say. It’s AIM 120 and the sidewinder. Underwing left side is, from memory, the ASRAAM which doesn’t have the forward wings (only when fired will they pop out) On Bremont; I’m not a huge fan of them. And their link to flying seems bit as ...
I completely agree with you with Bremont!
By: eklektik : August 15th, 2019-15:10
Their flying connection comes from marketing and nowhere else. The Concorde watch should be a Quartz: all official Concorde watches at the time were celebrating the victory of electronic and accuracy over dirty mechanic systems! But it is true that they k...
Wow. Thanks for sharing, Dr No.
By: Eddie1 : August 18th, 2019-18:34
I can appreciate the immense pride of your Uncle, may he rest in peace, and am glad that he was able to sort out the circuitry issue.
Late response
By: Jurry : November 15th, 2019-08:55
Apologies late response but you’re niece is not far from the truth. Can’t say more about it other than that once operational, the failure rate was still high (putting it mildly) and no pilot really liked carrying them because you never knew. Later version...
Piloting skills and reliable weaponry/ordnance - both are indeed needed.
By: Eddie1 : December 7th, 2019-02:13
Definitely stressful to go on active duty knowing the questionable reliability of your weapons/ordnance. I believe when the F4 Phantoms first went into battle in the Vietnam war, the pilots then had similar issues with their Sparrow missiles. And without ...
Hi Eddie
By: Jurry : December 7th, 2019-08:28
Much appreciated. Please allow me evaporate one of the biggest nonsense scenes in this movie that apart from some items was/is a great movie; - “hitting the brakes so the aircraft chasing you will pass you and as a result you’ve turned from being chased i...