I've seen some of the most expensive Patek Philippes...

Apr 20, 2022,23:03 PM
 

I've seen some of the most expensive Patek Philippe timepiecess. And they're well finished. Even the lower end Patek Philippe timepiecess are still well finished. It's not fair to compare finishing between Patek Philippe and Minerva Villeret. The Villeret timepieces are crafted with German Silver which just generally look better finished, but it's still not a fair comparison. Villeret movements are made from German Silver, Patek Philippe movements are made from watchmaker's brass. Brass is simply a material that doesn't look as nice as German silver even after investing the same amount of time and effort to finish it. The striping looks better on German Silver and the anglage can be polished more cleanly and consistently than the watchmaker's brass used in Patek Philippe movements. So simply, the material differences make the comparison less meaningful. But I agree with you, to the eye, the Villeret movement looks great. But in terms of effort and expertise, the Patek Philippe movement isn't necessarily "lesser" just from the appearance alone. If that makes any sense.


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Cal 16.29 finishing...

 
 By: TeutonicCarFan : April 20th, 2022-14:57
To me is top notch. I love the classical finishing rich cotes de Geneve, the anglage, gold chatons, counter sunk screws, the black polishing and satin finishes, etc. What I noticed today, not sure if by doctrine or by chance, the screw head on the classi...  

I like a bunch of the newer finishing

 
 By: TeutonicCarFan : April 20th, 2022-15:15
Like the VC NAC treatments or even the LF origin finishing. But something about the classic ways too. Does you v bridge screw lineup? Wondering if that is how they do them all?

Mine.

 
 By: amanico : April 20th, 2022-15:28
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A very cool touch!

 
 By: TeutonicCarFan : April 20th, 2022-15:38

I deeply admire these photo skills

 
 By: penfriend : April 20th, 2022-15:23
next to the technical skills at Villeret ;-)

These are cell phone pictures

 
 By: TeutonicCarFan : April 20th, 2022-15:38
Nico has the skill with no shadows or reflections!

Great timepiece and pics.

 
 By: enjoythemusic : April 20th, 2022-15:59
For pics, try a ringlight.

Very nice Kevin..

 
 By: jp884 : April 20th, 2022-16:08
These watches are such gems, they have to be held and played with to be truly appreciated for the high horology they are.

Indeed

 
 By: TeutonicCarFan : April 20th, 2022-22:31
They feel like a bespoke item

It sure is an amazing looking and finished movement

 
 By: Chronometer (aka yacomino) : April 20th, 2022-18:47
I was always curious to know from owners what rate accuracy are you getting with this movement? I believe MB does 500 hours testing on them?

The accuracy of my villeret (same movement) is exceptional - fast couple of seconds per week.

 
 By: als1678 : April 20th, 2022-18:49
Obviously hard to generalize from one example, but still.

Very impressive!

 
 By: Chronometer (aka yacomino) : April 20th, 2022-18:52

I think the pocket watch size, especially the huge balance wheel helps.

 
 By: als1678 : April 20th, 2022-18:55
Also the balance spring is hand made / rolled in-house, not mass produced.

Honestly

 
 By: TeutonicCarFan : April 20th, 2022-22:35
I haven't checked time to second on a watch in years. Especially without hacking seconds.

It is absolutely top notch!

 
 By: patrick_y : April 20th, 2022-18:48
A true watch lover's brand. Now that Patek Philippe is totally mainstream... Many Patek Philippe buyers today are more about the show than the appreciation of the art.

They do a lot right on how they make the watch

 
 By: TeutonicCarFan : April 20th, 2022-22:37
Not as much with branding and dissemination of information on reference. I have not seen any 100k Patek in person, but in the 50k and less range these are finished better IMO.

I've seen some of the most expensive Patek Philippes...

 
 By: patrick_y : April 20th, 2022-23:03
I've seen some of the most expensive Patek Philippe timepiecess. And they're well finished. Even the lower end Patek Philippe timepiecess are still well finished. It's not fair to compare finishing between Patek Philippe and Minerva Villeret. The Villeret... 

100%

 
 By: TeutonicCarFan : April 20th, 2022-23:06
Just because it is not as flashy or shiny does not mean finishing was done with less labor or hand craftsmanship. 👍

Still. Just from the eyes, the Villeret's finishing, I must admit, does look nicer than the Patek Philippe...

 
 By: patrick_y : April 20th, 2022-23:38
And also, that Villeret architecture and how they do chronographs, is the best. Better than even the Lemania movement architecture in some ways. Of course, the modern movements are easier to adjust, easier to service, and easier to assemble. The Patek Phi...